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Michaeltreasure:
1.No matter your opponents objectives, if you lost VVIPs, it's very bad.
2. Iran did show it's strong but for the fact that Mossad could be strolling and recruiting agents right on their soil and the Israeli Air Force could even enter their airspace and operate brought down their respect before their neighbors.
3. Iran has been busting Mossad cells since I could remember. Those agents and spies will be replaced and the network reestablished.
4. Israel has always been proud of being the aggressor, hence, the worldwide condemnation. Netanyahu has boasted several times in front of the UNGA about attacking Iran. The Israelis have never hidden it.
5. I agree with you. Iran doesn't want war. Not even Trump does. But the Jews are war maniacs. Having such an aggressive opponent would require you uping your game. This laxity in Iran's intelligence is one of the reasons why China and Russia don't take them serious.
6. Finally, being on the offensive here mean conducting operations from within Israel just the same way Israel is doing. Take out Israeli political, military and scientific personnel from within Israel. That's how to match the Israelis, not by funding terrorist groups, a move which always ends up making Iran look like the bad guy, and attract hatred from even her fellow Islamic states.
These are my own views anyways. No hard feelings...

Appleyard:
Had it not been for this sleeper cells busting, Iran would have been damaged beyond repair.

shoodboi2:
Victory is not evaluated based on casualties. It is evaluated based on objectives. Did Israel achieve its military objectives?

The answer is no and that is by a wide margin. Israel didn't even achieve its secondary objectives not to talk of the primary one.

Did Iran achieve its military objectives? The answer is yes. It prevented regime change and protected its nuclear program from destruction. It also established deterrence, which made even the US and Saudi Arabia to tread carefully.

The war also exposed the Mossad cells in Iran and Iran has been collapsing them in numbers. This part was so successful that Iran prevented lots of drone and spike missiles attacks from just collapsing these cells.

The presence of these Mossad cells in Iran also implicated Israel and even the US itself. Iran busted Mossad drone manufacturing factories and warehouses right inside Tehran. This shows the Israeli attack was a sophisticated program that has been in the works for years.

In other words, Israel had planned this operation for years. This clearly makes Israel the aggressor rather than the victim.

As for the Internet shutdown, there are two reasons for this. The first is that Iran's network infrastructure came under an Israeli cyberattack at some point.

The second is that Mossad controls those drones using internet provided by Iranian sim cards. (The same thing happened in Russia where the drones were controlled using Russian sim cards.) Shutting down the internet effectively shut down many drones and spike attacks.

Also, while you try to latch onto Iran shutting down the internet, you failed to acknowledge that Israel passed laws banning its own people from posting photos of Iranian impacts. Israel also banned the media from publishing news without the approval of its ministry of defence.

The Internet shutdown and law prevented images from leaking in both countries, but it was more effective in Israel than in Iran. Nonetheless, we still saw lots of photos and videos from both sides despite them. So, there's that.

You also talked about Iran being on the defensive rather than the offensive. Are you saying your views about this war would have changed if Iran was the one that attacked first? Because I know it won't.

If Iran attacked first, you guys would have blamed it for starting the war. Now that Israel attacked first, you're accusing Iran of not attacking first. Isn't that weird? We know you support Israel. Support them with your full chest instead of coming up with self-assuring statements that whitewash Israel.

Iran clearly doesn't want a war. Israel did. And Israel got it and chickened out once it realized Iran had the right to defend itself. So, blame Israel for always being on the offensive and not Iran for always being on the defensive.

If there is no offense, there wouldn't be a defense. If Israel did not attack, Iran will not retaliate. So Israel should receive the full blame for the war and not Iran.

Lastly, you talk of a "ceasefire planned brokered by Iran's enemies". Is that another way of saying that Iran's enemies asked for a ceasefire? Because that is what you said right there. And if anything, it proves that Israel was the one taking a beating.

Mille:
Them never ready to talk truth. But we are getting closer to it.

The tone is just changing everyday.

Completely destroyed ⏩ Severely damaged ⏩ significant damage ⏩ major destruction ⏩ sealed off entrances

WritterNg:
⚡Iran's Quds Force commander Qaani reportedly shows up in Tehran.

Iranian state media confirms he is alive.

Iran's Quds Force commander Qaani reportedly shows up in Tehran. Iranian state media says he is alive. pic.twitter.com/U1t5siDJcP

— Clash Report (@clashreport) June 24, 2025

WritterNg:
⚡US officials to NYT:

The American bombing of Iran’s nuclear sites sealed off the entrances to two of the facilities but did not collapse their underground buildings.

The early findings conclude that the strikes over the weekend set back Iran’s nuclear program by only a few months.

WritterNg:
⚡Iran's Quds Force commander Qaani reportedly shows up in Tehran.

Iranian state media confirms he is alive.

Iran's Quds Force commander Qaani reportedly shows up in Tehran. Iranian state media says he is alive. pic.twitter.com/U1t5siDJcP

— Clash Report (@clashreport) June 24, 2025

Iran's Quds Force commander Qaani reportedly shows up in Tehran. Iranian state media says he is alive. pic.twitter.com/U1t5siDJcP

— Clash Report (@clashreport) June 24, 2025

Alamkiir:
How would you know how many targets Iran took out? By the way, how do you know how many targets Israel took out?
What you’re saying is that you believe all the targets Israel claims to have hit, but you don’t believe the ones Iran claims they hit in Israel.

dvkot:
how many Isreal jets have been taken out, how many ADs, how many military leaders, how many industry base, how many ammo depots.. You gotta be honest sometimes so you don't fall like the pro-ukraine.

Reporter: Are you still committed to Article 5 of NATO?

Trump: It depends on your definition. But I am committed to being their friends.pic.twitter.com/2bep6P0d3S

— Clash Report (@clashreport) June 24, 2025

Blakjewelry:
I won't say it did, a science project is not a one man show. Killing the lead scientist doesn't put and end to the project however the attack on the facility will definitely going to set back the timeline for iran to achieve nuclear grade uranium.

I don't believe the facility was destroyed but iran has to evacuate all the entrance and do repairs to sensitive equipment damage buy the vibration.

If I were to be the Iranian leadership I will use the attack as an excuse and pull out from any talk with the iaea for now and use the chance speed up my nuclear program, after my first test then we can talk.

Also I think iran should up their intelligent network, how will you loose after similar thing happened to Russia just some few week ago.

As an extra note, I think every nation on earth should be worried about this new trend as nobody is safe nor immune to such attack.

Soon you will see bh and and isis bombing Nigeria air asset with the same style, even the US will have taste very soon this is not a prophecy.

Alamkiir:
Who made him prince

dvkot:
You of all people knows that Ukraine situation is a proxy of NATO war and Ukraine is literally Soviet industry.

A huge portion of iran ballistic missile are being intercepted and the ones that go through hasn't done much of a military damage to Israel MILITARY INDUSTRY.
Iran on the other hand has a lot of spies working within that have taken out their AD, Ballistic Missiles launchers, military industries and Ammo depot, given Israel almost entire control over their airspace.
As it stands now iran are using stored stockpiles ammunition which are diminishing because they aren't making new ones yet, that doesn't mean they cant engage a ground war but their BM capabilities is wearing thin.
If iran aim is to bring destruction in Israel i agree it can do it but if the aim is to take out military targets it can't do it.

seunny4lif:
I agreed with you on this oooh
The funniest thing is that Pak is well known for funding, training and supporting terrorists.
Almost all the terrorists are either trained or linked to Pak, Afghanistan or Saudi yet Iran is the one tagged as the one funding and supplying terrorists.
All those guys that shout before killing or bombing places are linked to those countries never Iran

Yet they owned nukes and the fact that USA funded and supported the nukes program just because they hatred India associating with Russia/USSR.

Iran supreme leader is old now and I’m very sure the future leader will learn his from the current one else Israelis will repeat the same thing again in future.
No matter who becomes USA president, they will always do Isreal billing meaning endless money.

This shows that it’s not about religion but about interest.
The last really Saudi king was killed by CIA indirectly by using the king’s cousin, since then gulf nations have been ruled by USA backed government.

dvkot:
North Korea and Iran aren't alies, neither is China nor Russia.
Iran don't have the capability to go on attrition against Israel it will lose 10 times out of 10