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donnie:


You deceive yourself to think that because he cannot tell where he answered an alter call he is not saved.

Are you saying that there are no saved in the catholic and orthodox churches since there are hardly any alter calls in thise places?

You are not making any solid points, or answering questions put at you... just hopping around.

Coming out for altar calls doesn't really guarantee salvation, is something between a person and God.

“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" 1cor 2:14.

zionmade:
U re trying to comit a fallacy of inference
I asked u where is it in d bible dat self service is a sin. Wats my business wit bestiality?
Sexual pleasure was also a gift from God to humanity. So make it clear i need to know why masturbation wit ur wife on d bed is a sin knowing fully well dat she is indisposed at d moment
About my salvation story i dnt have one because i lived all my conscious knowing God.

You've well spoken

Well, you have to be born again then, being religious isn't enough, you may be highly moral like Nicodemus, you may be zealously religious like Cornelius but, Jesus said "Except a man be born again he cannot enter into the kingdom of God... Ye must be born again" John 3:1-7

There must be a point in your life when in penitence and brokenness you confess to the Lord all your sins, being genuinely sorry for the past life of sin, asking that the blood that was spilt for redemption wash you clean, accepting and recognising the saviour of the world as your personal saviour, Everyone that came to Christ had a point in their life when they decided to follow Jesus and a great change accompanies this experience. psalm 51.

God has done it for millions, he can do it for you, if only you put your trust in Him, Go to Him in faith.

There's a difference between people that go to church and those that have made their ways right with God.

zionmade:
Bro pls talk to me with d mindset dat u re talking to someone dat has studied d bible for years. D verse was purely only on homosexuality dont try to add ur own Version of interpretation. Homosexuality is also recorded in Gen (the case of the angels) and Judges (the case of the young priest and his wife).
Stop all these additional interpretations. U even had to add bestiality, why not all st Paul do his Job

Yes bestiality is evil, they're all evil.

You talking of Food as a desire of the flesh. You know God said he has given all these animals for food, so he knew we'll eat.

Sorry pls, can you share your salvation testimony?

zionmade:
Now j insinuate dat d spirit i have is not of God.
I dnt like long logical sermons. Wat u wrote up there are logical sermon. In simple terms point to me from d bible where masturbation is a sin? And before u quote desires of d flesh bla bla bla also know dat food is d desire of d flesh.
Anyway point to d bible. Dat is d only proof u can give me

“And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." Romans 1:27

I suppose you know the natural use of the woman?
In this verse masturbation, bestiality, homosexuality is condemned.

zionmade:
U didn't care about wat d Holy spirit said before u jumped into ur conclusion and i decided to counter u dat way.
I hear from d spirit right before i even really knew him. So leave it dat way. Pst Chris didn't say anything wrong. Its u guys dat forgot dat d spirit also leads him dat suddenly became judges without trying to reason into wat he meant.
I know Pst Chris for a very long time now. Wen he says anything i know exactly wat he means. So if u cant bring up biblical reason why masturbating with ur spouse in mind because she may not be able to have sex for a long time den next others are ranting its wisdom u dnt join dem.

If d Spirit truly leads u u will be afraid to speaking against d annointing. No matter d denomination i have never spoken against any Man of God not because their teachings go well wit me but because i respect d annointing

Firstly, I spoke against no one.

Secondly, “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God..."
1 John 4:1.

You always picture your wife, now have you pictured God the omnipresent, looking at you at that very moment?

masturbation is sin.
masturbation enslaves likewise sin.
masturbation destroys likewise sin.
masturbation can have dominion over a man likewise sin, Which is against God's will.

The problem with many, regardless of how sincere they are, is that they are “religious legalists.” By that I mean they feel free to operate in a wide range of what they call “freedom.” If there is not a specific command condemning their actions, they feel they are at liberty to proceed with almost anything. Therefore, because the Bible does not
explicitly condemn gambling or cheating on a test, these actions must not be viewed as violations of the will of God.

Friend, the marriage institution is sacred, there are so many things you may not understand about it. Marriage and intimacy is aimed at expressing the union of Christ and the church(truly born again and righteous Christians).

Mind you in marriage, your body is not yours, you are joined to your wife as one.

The Holy Spirit convicts against this practice, if you do it though your wife may not be aware, but God knows.

God knew that it's bad for a man to be alone then, He created a woman.

It marriage self control is an indispensable tool, whether your wife is around or not.

“Abstain from all appearance of evil." 1thessalonians 5:22.

zionmade:
Why is it a sin to masturbate with ur wife close to u seeing dat she cant have sex at d moment?? U havnt answered dat question.
So if i have sex with my wife just because i want to satisfy my sexual hunger, its a sin?
Tell me more bro. After six months of my wife's absence and i dnt release even once, dnt u think by nature which is also d handwork of God dat i will release by wet dream? Go and study d body God created u will find out dat once u start having regular sex u will hardly stay without it for up to two months.
*Pst Chris said* MASTURBATION ON ITS OWN is not a sin. Prove him wrong by telling me exactly where in d bible dat says lusting after ur own wife is a sin. Or is Masturbating in d presence of ur wife outside d confine of marriage sin?

D only sin i know is anything not done by love and faith. I dnt know anyother sin u are talking of. And stop referring to masturbation for a single person because dat is not wat i am saying.
LASTLY MY HOLINESS How can artificial insemination be achieved or is it also a sin?

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zionmade:
Why is it a sin to masturbate with ur wife close to u seeing dat she cant have sex at d moment?? U havnt answered dat question.
So if i have sex with my wife just because i want to satisfy my sexual hunger, its a sin?
Tell me more bro. After six months of my wife's absence and i dnt release even once, dnt u think by nature which is also d handwork of God dat i will release by wet dream? Go and study d body God created u will find out dat once u start having regular sex u will hardly stay without it for up to two months.
*Pst Chris said* MASTURBATION ON ITS OWN is not a sin. Prove him wrong by telling me exactly where in d bible dat says lusting after ur own wife is a sin. Or is Masturbating in d presence of ur wife outside d confine of marriage sin?

D only sin i know is anything not done by love and faith. I dnt know anyother sin u are talking of. And stop referring to masturbation for a single person because dat is not wat i am saying.
LASTLY MY HOLINESS How can artificial insemination be achieved or is it also a sin?

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zionmade:
Why is it a sin to masturbate with ur wife close to u seeing dat she cant have sex at d moment?? U havnt answered dat question.
So if i have sex with my wife just because i want to satisfy my sexual hunger, its a sin?
Tell me more bro. After six months of my wife's absence and i dnt release even once, dnt u think by nature which is also d handwork of God dat i will release by wet dream? Go and study d body God created u will find out dat once u start having regular sex u will hardly stay without it for up to two months.
*Pst Chris said* MASTURBATION ON ITS OWN is not a sin. Prove him wrong by telling me exactly where in d bible dat says lusting after ur own wife is a sin. Or is Masturbating in d presence of ur wife outside d confine of marriage sin?

D only sin i know is anything not done by love and faith. I dnt know anyother sin u are talking of. And stop referring to masturbation for a single person because dat is not wat i am saying.
LASTLY MY HOLINESS How can artificial insemination be achieved or is it also a sin?

That's the issue, 'pastor Chris said,' it's okay you heard what he said.

Now what have you heard the Holy Spirit say?

"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so" Acts 17:1

Friend, when we are born into the world we get something from our parents... DNA
Now, when we're born of the spirit we also get something from our father (God)....THE SPIRIT.
Jesus said something about the Holy Spirit

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come." John 16:13.

“He will guide you"

zionmade:
Wat of if my wife is a nursing mother and i masturbate thinking about her unclothedness. How is it a sin

Its all about self gratification, which is not God's will for the marriage institution.

Firstly, though God created sex for enjoyment and pleasure, it is to be confined to the marriage relationship because it is also designed to express love (not just sexual love), unity, and total commitment. Masturbation is an act of self-gratification rather than a part of giving gratification and pleasure to one’s partner.

Secondly, (1) The practice scarcely can be indulged without thoughts of sensuality or “lasciviousness” (Galatians 5:19

(2) Masturbation is a self-centered practice that does not acknowledge that sexual gratification has been designed as an act to be shared within marriage.
In his first Corinthian epistle, Paul declares that if a person “burns,” i.e., burns “with sexual desire” and feels he cannot exercise “continence,” i.e., “sexual restraint”—the control of “the sexual impulse and its satisfaction” he can pursue a co. marriage. Otherwise self-control is to be mastered.
(3) Self-stimulation is enslaving.

Friend, a truly born again believer will not endulge in masturbation and gratifying self.
“They that are led by the spirit of God are the sons of God Romans 8:14"

A true child of God can't be led to masturbate.

zionmade:
Mr hypocrite MASTURBATION (on its own) is not a sin get dat into ur skull. Yes he charges 1k for new year eve servic and spends ove millions of dollars to ensure dat d same service is aired all over d world. Wat is d sin there is people onsite make a little sacrifice to ensure dat people far away also enjoy d program

MASTURBATION IS SIN
“But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints. Eph.5:3"
The Bible could've simply said ’fornication' but All uncleanness was added.
What do you term unclean, morally and spiritually?
Now is masturbation clean?
what makes a man to masturbate? It all starts from the heart, the thought of formication.

If you're a victim of masturbation, sincerely ask God for forgiveness, have a strong decision not to continue in it, and he'll aid you by His power.
God bless you.

“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." 2Corinthians 4:4

What shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world and loose his own soul? Matthew 16:26

Follow peace with all men and holiness without which no man shall see the lord. Hebrews 12:14

Jesus knew many won't believe hence He said "they that believe shall be saved”

uzoclinton:
"i heard the lord say to me, I will visit you and indeed he visited me last year"

why do people refer to God as a 'HE'

Read The Bible.

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. -John 2:19. You see? the devils also believe and tremble, the devil isn't even an atheist, well you're not even a devil yet. Whatever boldness you feel inside you in doubting the deity of the Almighty is all but a mirage of the evil one.
“He that believes...shall be saved he that believes not shall be damned" It's just about faith...“For without faith it is impossible to please God"
The bible says whether we believe or not “He remains God He cannot deny Himself"
Why cheat yourself while others have and are experiencing a definite manifestation of God's Power.
There's Room at the cross for you.
Only believe!

That's a good one from someone who reads.