₦airaland Forum

ibechris:
I was born in Lagos,I am from Abia,I schooled in Lagos and further my education in the east.

I had my IT in Abuja,travelled to Plateau,Kebbi,Ph,Oyo State Ogun states,Nasarawa state,Kogi state Niger state,Ogun state. IMO AND ENUGU are my second home.

From the available records,no town in Nigeria is built up like the Eastern Region. We don't just beat our chest...we talk and do it.

So,to argue less with u as the father that travels more than me, use ur Google and ask that question.

Ask Google which region is built up aside Lagos in Nigeria? Then after the answer,u can rest and stop arguing blindly.

Good luck to u.

You have a fairly good travel experience, i have been to 32 states in this country and worked in about 25. And I will correct you again. "Developed villages" not "town"
If you ve been to Northern cities you will understand better.
Sorry google made sense till I entered Gombe state capital (gombe)
Umuahia, awka, owerri, enugu and abakiliki cannot measure up to a lot of these places.

bigpicture001:
So u dnt know that most igbos relocate to the villa when they are old?

Go look around Lagos, u will notice this, unlike Deltans and the rest, igbos relocate home at old age.

My Dad left Lagos one year after he had his 75th birthday.. not house issues, not food issues, not rent, not money cuz he was on pension..

He left to his house in the villa, and before two years he became a go-to elder in the community for consultation and found a new purpose to live a further 32years.. he died this October.

While his peers in lag who are as old as him all died ten years after his journey outta lag

Most Igbo men no longer live to that retirement age and that's my main point. While building houses in the village is very OK, many Igbos spend most of their fortunes on these things and little for themselves. They hardly even retire nowadays

ibechris:
U wey dey travel dey talk like a poor man.

If you travel enough you won't say that east has the most developed towns aside lagos. You didn't even say villages ooo

Talking like a poor man because I said men should know where to draw the line in spending all their adult life chasing money and building edifices until stress land them to Graves.
Igbo men hardly take care of themselves till they die. How is that a poor man thinking

Gerrard59:
Even though I am not a fan of building unnecessarily big houses in Nigeria, which one is the "dumb" story? Did you experience the Civil War as they did? Within the past two years, similar rhetoric has resurfaced, so they were right.

Still a dumb cook and bull story.
What's the assurance that the mansion won't be the first place bomb will drop

Salewa97:
Good

Circular economy, I like that

NL powerful AI is yet to detect this bot.

mrvitalis:
Are you Igbo? Let's start from there

I am.
But my argument here is more generalistic
Igbos or not. It's time men stop chasing money into their Graves all in the name of building this, building that, doing this, doing that

helinues:
Is there appropriate time to post a particular topic because this madness you are talking about is what you are displaying with your headless arguments above

If I start with you now, you will start shouting block!!! Attack!! Troll!!! Respect yourself kwanu. Never

You mentioned my camp and I explained my camp to you. Or did it hurt you that I don't asslick any politician like you guys are ready to swallow any piss and poo from political gods?

The op is close to the madness boundary and even more closer to you. Two of you should check yourselves

Ttalk:
It is only a mediocre that goes about on SM claiming he is richer or knowledgeable than someone else.

The discussion is about price of rice coming down to 50k which you disputed, but many people here have shown you are just lying and it hurts you so much to admit the price of rice has gone down. You can deal with whatever bitterness you harbour in your heart it's none of my business [img][/img]

And I asked you a simple question you have refused to answer, what brand of rice is 50 or 55k?

Bitterness? For what exactly? That more people can conveniently afford food items or what. Oga answer the question and stop running around.

Me too, I have one or two rice to buy, give me the 50k brand lemme go and look for it

ibechris:
All their fortunes how...?
Did they say after building it,they became poor?

Oga,u are still talking from the point of lack. Person wey get money no dey complain.

Change ur mentality,there is no city in Nigeria that can be compared with any igbo town in terms of development except Lagos? In few years time,we shall dwarf Lagos if not now,our children will do more.

Your last paragraph shows you hardly travel

Talking from a point of lack indeed. Men keep dying early even though women have more fragile body. People like you can't ask why.

So I should believe that nonsense story op just told. Na wa oo

helinues:
Why are you people so disrespectful that you won't allow others to express themselves. Same attitude that's making people to leave your camp yet not even paying any attention

You people should stop being opinion killers and allow others to express their opinion

"My camp"?
Lol
My camp in 2027 is a free and fair election. Whether votes are bought ooo, or whatever. As long as Nigerians are allowed to vote and their vote counted

I have said it a thousand times, I have passed that level of being very passionate about who becomes the president. I will rather that those who suffer most from evil policies to make their choice.. while I keep saying "was it not you guys that voted him?"

Back to the madness part, yes a guy that wakes up by 8:52pm to create such a useless thread is fastly approaching madness

Ttalk:
A rich man complaining of 50k rice, the joke is on you. How much did you buy the rice you are crying about that it is too expensive?

So according to you, rich men should never complain about high cost of living. It's not their business if other Nigerians are suffering. See the kind of things that call themselves tinubu supporters.

Very selfish set of things

Ttalk:
If you think any government would have retained fuel subsidy then I shouldn't be having conversation with you because you have a special orientation to get out of such mentality. It again reveals your lever of understanding of Nigeria economy

Lol
I am closer to the heart of Nigerian economy than you can ever think. And it's you that refused to read to understand.

Nigerians paid 165 for fuel
You made a policy and now they pay 900 for fuel.
My question is, what have tinubu done for ordinary Nigerians to make up for this increased cost of living,?

I have not told you subsidy removal is wrong ooo. But you refused to read and understand

ken6488:
well this is the issue we are getting now you think your opinion is the best the era of south east opinion affecting us is over

Still looking like an opinion of someone close to madness.
So SE opinion of being fully behind GEJ re-election affected SS. Have you seen what is going on with your upstairs?
Urgent attention is needed ooo

mrvitalis:
Ji
Firstly the house only belong to the first son and his first son the rest go out to build theirs

Different people build for different reason
For me I'm building because I want something that would draw me home always

U can't buikd a mansion and not travel

That's where you misunderstood it

Building a house is good. But Building a massive mansion for a family of 4 or 5 is crazy. Times are changing. The next 2 generations will not want to spend even one week in that your mansion.

Men die earlier because they give themselves no rest. Keep chasing more and more money, more and more expenses till they are in the grave. After Building one, they want to build another. Men need re-orientation.

Flangelo12:
There's nothing like old fashioned house.

Lots of homes in UK and US are hundreds of years old.

US, UK and Nigeria are way different
Can you conveniently live in your grandfather's building?

Abufo:
That they are not using the homes does not mean the need for those homes may not arise........a 3rd world war is brewing.....even nigeria is not stable......las las we go home and begin to rebuild from there!

You live your short life in earth on the basis of a 3rd war where your mansion may even be the first place to be bombed. Na wa oooo

tiger28:
You forgot SUBSIDY REMOVAL that ALL Presidential candidates agreed to remove??

Tinubu was the ONLY Candidate with balls to remove the Cancer (Subsidy) thats been chocking Nigeria.

With the removal of the cancer, what has the ordinary man on the street benefitted?

Lest you forget what subsidy removal means. It means the help Nigerians were getting from government was eliminated, without anything in return

ken6488:
i posted my opinion

Mad people can walk around by 8:52pm saying their opinion. How can you spot the madness? Their opinion doesn't make sense in any way

That's how madness begins

Time of post: 8:52pm

gohf:
signifies? More like symbolizes, because none actually occurs during the said baptism, neither does the person die nor do they resurrect to eternal life at water baptism

Ref: Roman's chapter 6

Now go ahead and give me references for child baptism

Thomasankara:
[/color]do you mean jesus was observing his burial, death and resurrection,when he went for baptism or better still, on whose memory did he went for baptism [color=#770077]

Most things Jesus did were symbolic for Christians, as there was no Christianity before and during the time of Jesus. Romans chapter 6 explains the significance of baptism. But am yet to get where child baptism is upheld in the bible

Rayjnr:
Which is nice

And they will not give it to them

Never seen a dumb story before

You spend all your fortune building mansions that your grandchildren will not want to live in because it will become old fashioned.

We have seen many of those kind of houses everywhere lying fallow and dilapidated

I wish men will learn how to focus on what need to be focused on, which is knowing when to stop hussling for properties and start taking care of themselves so they can live longer

immortalcrown:
You are confusing yourself.

First of all, it seems you do not believe in original sin. No adult has stopped committing sins after being baptised. Yes, baptism is meant to discourage sin. But baptism does not mean that sin has become impossible in the person's life. So, The main significance of baptism is cleansing of original sin. Baptism is a ritual that demonstrates belief. Those who believe in original sin accept infant baptism for babies.

So a person can be cleansed of his sin without him or she knowing or believing in the action?
Then why must I confess the Lord Jesus when someone can just do it for me

Sorry to say this, when it comes to the matter of sin and cleansing, it must be deliberate. And there is nothing like cleansing from original sin, it's not in the Bible.

Thomasankara:
[/color] could you please tell me the creed jesus believed in, before his baptism [color=#770077]

I don't get your question

Also tell me how Jesus was baptized

Rayjnr:
Without mentioning Islam your day won't be complete,
Don't christians embezzle? , Must everything be about religion?

All I know is that the Muslims at the helm of affairs will embezzle it

Ttalk:
Ogbeni show the receipt of the rice you bought this December and stop Cho cho cho

Only poor men wait for December to buy rice. Don't you eat rice in your house on other days? Work on your mentality, poverty mentality is nothing to be proud of

Ttalk:
Your question is a testimony that you havent bought rice this December.

Nigeria is over 200m people, let your statement be judged by Nigerians who are experiencing first hand drop in price of items.

Buckle up your hustle so you won't depend on SM for the price of staple food such as rice

So we should not believe tinubu's statement right?

I guess if you get to the closest market around you and yarn this rubbish you will likely return with some patches here and there on your head

Lol, double my hustle to buy rice, internet enables a lot of nonentities to open their mouth wide to people they cannot stand in real life

Muslims at the helm of affairs will embezzle it
Unless the aid come straight through Christian NGOs

immortalcrown:
In Pentecostal churches, baptism qualifies one to start receiving the holy communion. But in Catholic, baptism does not qualify one to start receiving the holy communion. This is why the arguement often takes place.

Baptism is a ritual performed to cleanse original sin and demonstrate Christian identity. Baptizing an infant is a way that parents give the baby Christian identity. The parents, by doing so, are saying, "We are laying a Christian foundation for our baby".

What makes the difference is confirmation which is done by only those who have become cognisant enough to differentiate sin from good and have promised to abstain from sin. Only the confirmed members of the Catholic Church receive the holy communion. It is called confirmation because the person does it to show that he or she has examined, understood and chosen the Christian foundation laid for him or her. The person by doing so is saying "I have confirmed that the Christian foundation laid for me or I laid for myself is right for me and I am dedicated to it".

Let me use something non-spiritual to explain it further. A medical or nursing student starts wearing a white clothe. The white clothe does not make the student a qualified nurse or doctor. It only shows that the student has chosen the profession and is willing to develop himself or herself in that field. The student is using the clothe to say, "This is who I want to be". This illustrates baptism. Graduation is what will make the student a qualified nurse or doctor. The graduation can be used to illustrate the purpose of confirmation in the Catholic Church.

In the Catholic Church, members who become adults before getting baptised may not go through a separate formation for confirmation before receiving the holy communion. They can receive the holy communion the same day they get baptised. This is similar to Pentecostal members who start receiving communion immediately after being baptised because they had become old enough to differentiate sin from good before they went for the baptism. Members of the Catholic Church who did infant baptism are the ones that must go through confirmation when they become adults before they start receiving the holy communion. Biblically, there is no contradiction between the way the Catholic does it and the way the Pentecostal Churches do it. It is human sentiment that created the arguement.

What is you described is not baptism, baptism signifies death to sin, burial and resurrection in Christ. That's why you immerse the person in water (death) and raise him up (resurrection)

Now that process can only be valid with Roman's 10:9
And a baby cannot believe in Jesus nor confess his Lordship and therefore not qualified for salvation