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FiveFootNinja:
I don't believe in the theory of evolution, so you're wasting your time, and mine.

If you have a question relating to evolution or abiogenesis, you can ask a biologist. I'm an atheist. Do those two words sound alike to you?

At any rate, even if you discuss with a biologist, you're already off to a poor start because evolution doesn't deal with the origin of life. It's abiogenesis that deals with the origin of life.

Lol
I have no business with a biologist. Because biology is the study of "life" not the "origin"

I thought atheists claim they know more than religious people. At least religious people have an answer to the origin of life, while those who claim to have superior knowledge run away from the question. They only find strength in criticizing something they know absolutely nothing about

So oga, based on the overwhelming theory of evolution, what is the origin of life?

FiveFootNinja:
I have numerous things I believe in. However when it comes to claims about God and religion that deal with truth claims about reality, I see no point in believing them if there's no evidence to support them. It's very simple. I don't need to have my own explanation. I follow the evidence, and the theory of evolution is supported by overwhelming evidence, but even if it wasn't, it wouldn't make the book of Genesis true by default, and it wouldn't make me any less of an atheist.

And you keep flip flopping with your story. After picking your brain, you eventually admitted that I have the moral right to question others beliefs when you made it clear that code of ethics has nothing to do with belief.

But now you've gone back to your original claim because it's convenient for you. Is it that hard for you to be honest?

You're only demonstrating your poor knowledge of scientific epistemology by framing skepticism and science based reasoning as evasion, which is ironically funny for someone who claims he's a man of science.

But don't worry. You have ignorant and dishonest praise singers blowing sweet light breeze up your ass crack to keep deceiving you, so you have nothing to worry about. Lol

The only thing I pick from here is your tale of overwhelming evidence of evolution
Now let's focus there
According to the overwhelming evidence within your reach, what is the origin of "life"
Question you and your likes always run away from because you cannot defend what you will say

They should rather clamor for a very free and fair election, where majority of Nigerians decide who they want. Fvck where the person is from. Even if majority of Nigerians want the worst of the worst to lead them, then let it be so

FiveFootNinja:
I don't need an alternative explanation for how life came about to reject creation narratives if they're demonstrably false. I only need to rely on the lack of evidence from creationist proponents.

So again, is your interpretation of the book of Genesis literal or metaphorical?

Lol
You want to mark a script without marking scheme. You believe nothing but you are eager say my own believe is wrong
As I told your other guys,I have nothing to discuss with someone who can't be bold to declare what he believes about the origin of life

FiveFootNinja:
I'll take up for Omoawoke here.

Firstly, are you talking about the literal interpretation of the book of Genesis? Or a metaphorical one?

Am talking about your evidence backed belief about the origin of life that negates the creation account in genesis

Disclaimer: what ever you mention here should be able to scale through when put into physical scientific scrutiny, laws and theories

Omoawoke:
I never claimed I know it all… but I am very certain the Tower of Babel never happened and Noah’s ark is bullshit

Even a child knows that…

And don’t worry about why I believe..

Face the issue…
I am here mocking your Tower of Babel story and many other ridiculous stories in the Bible….

This method of argument is common among you Christians… instead of facing the issue, you all will derail and start attacking the personality..

Did I write the Bible?? Lmao

The fact is they never happened

If you like cry from today till tomorrow, beg and weep like a baby… the Bible is a lie…
I even tried to beg chat gpt for mercy🤣🤣🤣

Stay Tune

More coming



My believe is irrelevant

What matters is the truth..

We must establish that truth by fire by force…

If you like cry from today till tomorrow…. Bible remains a bullshit story that doesn’t make sense.. cry me a river 😭😭

OK what is the truth that negates the Bible's tale of creation?

FiveFootNinja:
It's none of my business. Like I said before, none of that has anything to do with my atheism. So the truth status of the ToE, Big Bang, etc is irrelevant to me.

And for all the flaws you "think" evolution or abiogenesis (which you described here) has, its postulates are still far more plausible than anything from religion. That's my point.

So Occam's Razor applies.

OK in summary, we are all confused
Now embrace your confusion and let others embrace theirs
There is nothing plausible anywhere, we are confused on the matter of creation, so let's keep that way

FiveFootNinja:
It's perfectly fine that your belief is subjective.

As for me, I don't have any "beliefs" about creation. There are hypotheses and theories that exist within the scientific community that perfectly explain creation. But ultimately, none of it has to do with my atheism.

Those hypothesis contradicts or physical laws
There is no possible scientific explanation that life can come out from a non living thing. No theory has ever pointed objectively to the origin of "life"

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you be Peter the rock? Matthew 16:18
I'm just amazed at your intelligence!

I am a Christian
I am also deeply into the science field
When an issue has no empirical backing, I believe what I believe.and allow others believe what they believe. It's called tolerance and respect for belief

FiveFootNinja:
You don't need to be sorry because my bubbles are still intact. You already admitted that you can't show scientific evidence for your faith. And I already know your Bible isn't grounded in reality so there's nothing to argue with you there.

I'm just wondering - since you didn't arrive at your belief via evidence, what reasoning or methodology did you use, that convinced you that it was objectively true?

I didn't say my belief is objective, infact no believe on creation is objective and can be scientifically proven. So my believe is plainly subjective. If you have an objective belief on that, you can come up.with it

FiveFootNinja:
Do you seriously think that rejecting religious beliefs means lacking a code of ethics? Think carefully before you answer.

We are talking about creation, and every human believes something at least, so the question is, what do you believe? Believe and code of ethics are different

FiveFootNinja:
Very good.

So therefore, you accept that your beliefs, just like those of people outside your faith are fair game for criticism and evaluation. Correct?

Sure as long as you argue with your own beliefs

FiveFootNinja:
Belief is not knowledge by the way, in the conventional sense. So at the end of the day, it is your OPINION that the Bible is right. Keep that in mind.

It is my opinion
But sorry to burst your bubbles, if I believe the Bible is right then I also believe that I cannot scientifically prove everything in the Bible, because that won't be spiritual at all and I believe most things in the Bible are spiritual

FiveFootNinja:
Okay. So what about those people from other religions or worldviews that don't share your beliefs? Do they not have the right to criticize or evaluate your beliefs based on their own standards? Or do you think there aren't others out their who believe their code of ethics supersedes all?

Sure they have the right based on what they believe, as long as they won't scream foul when theirs is also criticized

FiveFootNinja:
Very interesting.

Now let me use your own logic and turn the spotlight back on you.

Please tell us the standard you're using that allows you to judge or criticize others outside your faith?

I personally don't criticize beliefs but the behaviour that emanates from beliefs

Let me even say I criticize other people's belief, I do it based on the standard of my belief. Because I believe my Bible is right. So at least I am holding on to something

FiveFootNinja:
As an atheist, I don't make any claims.

Next question?

Lol
It's just being scared on standing a ground
If you don't believe anything about creation, then you have no moral rights or grounds to criticize what others believe. Because what exactly is your basis for criticism. You only criticize something based on a standard, so what's the standard for criticizing religious beliefs on creation?

Afriifa:
The activities associated with Wikezation and Wike(ism) have gone further to expose individuals of certain ethnicity in Nigeria about their sophistry as a race with integrity, intelligence and strong moral stance. We the Niger Deltans have learnt yet another bitter lessons that real our enemies are closer to us than the man in Kano, Kaduna, Borno, Adamawa, Niger. In deed, one should really be careful about enemies disguising as friends and brothers. We will put our house in order. We blame no one for our current woes. We blame the foolish willing tools in our midst, and we shall address them in due time.
God bless all you all according to your thoughts and wishes for the Niger Delta and her people.

There is nothing like Niger delta than what the Whiteman used to delineate the areas where they found oil.
The common denominator there is "Oil" and nothing else. Not the way of life, not the way of dressing, not language nothing else

Of the term "Niger delta people" is wrong in the first place. We have Kalahari people, ibibio people etc. Politicians usually make this clearer during elections

In summary, there is no enemy of niger delta people anywhere. Its ijaw fighting ikwerre and so on and so forth.

FiveFootNinja:
Scientifically prove what?

What claims are atheists making? Can you answer that? Let's start from there.

As an atheist, what claims are you making? We rather start from that

advanceDNA:
Sigh.....I only mentioned you to let u know NNPCL recruited junior entry level staff few weeks back...and that's becos u were saying they should employ..... After that me I nor really understand you again and that's was why my response was sarcastic

You mentioned the wrong person then

Point of correction they recruited "senior staffs" not "junior"

Omoawoke:
I can conclude that you have no reasonable thing to say….
You avoided the questions and keep dribbling about the bush…

Very typical…. Derail, dribble, avoid the issue and spit in frustration… I wonder how many of you can pass a management consulting case interview… is it our educational system, malnourishment or people just aren’t smart…. Face issue oga leave talk

The question remains whenever you are ready to answer

. THE TOWER OF BABEL, NOAH’S ARK HAS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE, DID THIS STORIES HAPPEN OR JUST MYTH? HOW DID WE ALL COME FROM NOAH,

When you are ready, focus on the issue, until then… bye!

Said someone who is afraid to state his belief. You claim you are smart but yet you cannot air your opinion because you know very well how senseless your opinion will sound

TheStranger:
Working probably or about to start

Am aware, there is a reason I asked the guy that question

advanceDNA:
U asked where they are ..... Will they be living in my house?? Nor be there house them go dey by this time

Go back and clarify why you brought them up under my mention

advanceDNA:
There in their house, and resuming at work every day ..

Which kind question be this??

You should be wondering why you brought new recruits who are most probably in their houses now into the discussion.

seborrhic:
So they are comparing Boku with its mainly kiosk like bread stores with Shoprite massive structures?
So a store with goods value of 20m is equivalent to one with goods and structure value of at least ₦500m?
Funny rating.

I wanted to ask what is bokku oo, before I saw this
Very useless comparison

Omoawoke:
I am trying to understand you to be honest..

This thread is clear and straightforward, I’m mocking ridiculous religious beliefs…

Please pick a stand and let’s be clear…

Are you saying the Bible creation story of Adam and Eve in a garden, the Noah’s ark and Tower of Babel are true??

It’s just a simple question please.. see, let’s not waste each others time… answer to that question so I know where you really stand … you are neither here nor there

I am saying if you have no clear belief and explanation of creation, then you have no right to ridicule what religious people believe. You must be able to point out the correct thing if you must tell someone that he is wrong

As for the question you ask
Nobody on earth has an empirical proof that the story (especially that of creation) is either true or false. So I don't see any sense in thinking that those who believe it to be true are foolish.

In summary, believe what you believe and let others believe what they believe. Just as what they believe sounds senseless, your own belief would most like also sound senseless

advanceDNA:
They employed entry level recently...where u dey that time??

And where exactly are those employed right now

Omoawoke:
Beliefs should be open to challenges, being questioned, and open to changes..
That’s one thing that religious (christian&muslims) folks lack
As much as you try to paint them like heroes, they are the opposite… they are trained to fear and never question… that their book is perfect and must never bechallenged.. they killed early scientists, slow down knowledge because you must not challenge their god….
The only way to progress is to accept you aren’t perfect and to continue to learn, unlearn and grow..
I am attacking religious people because of their close minded and hypocritical nature…
A living person is ought to be able to continue to learn, accept the possibility that they could be wrong and they don’t have all the answers.
The universe is so complex and the unknown part is over 99%…
So why would a people sit and say they know the creation of the world, and begin to sell dumb stories and anybody that don’t believe, they the person as “unbeliever” fool”! When they are actually the foolsssss

This mindset must be frustrated and mocked! It must be ridiculed to make the world a better place ..
So the future generations won’t inherit this stupidity and would be free to question those trashy books and seek for answers…. Never to stop learning and being curious

You can see how they all came attacking me and leaving the fundamental issue??

By the way, stay tuned

More coming !!

As I said before, every human being must believe in something religious or not religious
When it comes to creation, nobody has proven religious folks wrong that God didn't create "life".
Science in its entirety has failed in that aspect.

So if you have what you believe, be bold and state it, let's do a little scientific proving so you will know how dumb your belief also sounds.

So in summary, all we all believe about creation sounds dumb, as such, everybody is right to hold on to their own belief without being tagged ignorant

Omoawoke:
Okay I don’t know…

And I can’t remember making any of the claims you listed above…
Are you mistaking me for someone else?

The purpose of this topic is to ridicule religious myths

Stay tune


More coming in

No am not. Now you post is rid of insults, did you die

Human beings must believe something.
So if you can't explain what you believe, you have no rights to ridicule what another person believe.
Now if religious folks make a U turn and decide to follow your own view, what are you going to tell them

As I said before, to a scientifically inclined person, all accounts of creation sound stupid. Both the big bang and what not.

Only religious people are very much closer to explaining why our brains are limited to comprehend creation. It's simple, there is a God that placed a limit on what humans can think. As unbelievable as that sounds, it's still the closest sensible explanation

Rubbish news. Just a sensational headline to attract views
Those new guys will have to settle down, learn about the company before making any serious changes. You don't come into a new environment and start upsetting things. That's the fastest route to failure

Omoawoke:
First who said I’m atheist?

I’m here catching fun and ridiculing religious folks…
Narrow minded hypocrites, self deluded that think the world revolves around their archaic Bible that fails every test of scrutiny

Let’s scrutinize the Bible!

I invited you all to defend the Bible, if it’s that straightforward, then go ahead and prove to me that the Tower of Babel happen, prove to me that Noah’s ark happened?
That’s the assignment, that you keep avoiding that simple task shows you all empty

Again, here’s the deal

DID TOWER OF BABEL STORY TRULY HAPPEN?

DID NOAH’s STORY TRULY HAPPEN’?


If you don’t have any answer, simply exit the thread and stop embarrassing yourself by exposing your mental weakness

I will rather you explain to me how life emanated from an inanimate object, but millions of years now, we can synthesize the same life from an inanimate object

When it comes to the matter of creation, both religious people and Atheists sound dumb in their assertions, but it's atheists that keep calling religious people dumb

Finally, am very much interested in knowing how babies learn to suck breast, because in my mental weakness I know what I do to your mother's breast and clits (please dont let your father know). I want to know how I learnt that skill.

Omoawoke:
What has these dumb questions got to do with the topic?

Did you assume I’m atheist? So you feel you should counter attack me instead of facing the topic

This is a display of lack of mental clarity, critical thinking abilities and logical flow… and that’s why you are blindly following indoctrination

My message is for people to continue to search for answers, don’t end your natural curiosity and journey for knowledge … if you don’t know doesn’t mean you should accept bullshits that doesn’t make sense

If for instance you are trying to find the father of a child… you see an black child and a white man says he’s the biological father… then because of absence of further proofs, then you just accept… you have to put it to test and if it fails, you move on to continue the search

Please you people should stop asking dumb questions, I know you guys aren’t that mentally sound, but please learn to grow)

Lol
We are used to asking Christians to prove that their Bible is true, but when we ask atheists to scientifically prove what they believe in, school will dismiss
Since you are an AI expert, I have given you and your AI an assignment and you are running away.

Since you are mentally sound, why don't you tackle those 4 questions I asked you? Or does mental sanity entails dodging questions?

As for your insults, am not that religious ooo. I can be in vigil on Friday night and on top of your mother on Saturday morning.

Omoawoke:
Ai has described your likes as intellectually lazy, willfully ignorant and emotionally chained

Tell me how Tower of Babel is true.

Please explain to me how you an African black man is a descendant of Noah??

So one man gave birth to Chinese, Indian, Arab, East Africans, whites, Yorubas and many more ?


Do you know Muslims believe that Mohammed split the moon into two? So you laugh at that but believe the Tower of Babel??

I have few questions for your AI
1. When is "life" going to be artificially reproduced from a non living thing. Since we all emanated from a non living thing
2. Why is it that only "life" that defies the 2nd law of thermodynamics. In other words, why will a solid like nails, hair etc be formed by a fusion of sperm and egg at a temperature of about 37°C?
3. The liquid inside coconut, how does it appear, but not present in a palmfruit?
4. Who teaches a baby how to suck breast

Just a little question to keep you and your AI busy. Remember, nothing abstract should be included in the answers, every answer must be proven by physical laws