₦airaland Forum

TheNiceGuy:
You all know our landlord here is not well versed.
He's an atheist yet he's putting his mouth in what doesn't concern him

That's how he killed Nairaland with his bare hands that we have to leave and just check occasionally.

We'll soon leave again

Sharrap
NL keeps growing and gaining more popularity everyday
You and who will leave?

Your fellow extremist are trying to spread sharia, support them with your full chest and stop behaving like a coward

vanbonattel:
They violated sit at home order of Simon Adewale Ekphaolorun today Monday

They refused to lock themselves inside their bedrooms while hiding under their beds.

It's shameful when adults like you come here to constitute nuisance.
It's a huge disgrace.



Wishing the kidnapped swift rescue and the kidnappers a swift transition to hell

I wish the person whose voice we heard spoke english
It's obvious that road may have been previously awarded and should.have been completed by now, but wickedness and selfishness will not allow people do the right thing. According to the voice, they (these criminals embezzling money meant for road) have done well in contributing to the death of the victims

I won't totally blame Otti sha, he can't fix all the roads in Abia overnight, he is trying, though he can do more

But you see Orji Uzor, TA Orji.and Ikpeazu, I hope judgement will fall upon them and all their cronies who helped in putting abia state in that condition

chrisxxx:
The governor can't be in opposition to him and presidency and you expect developments to come to him.

Wooow
You guys never cease to amaze in defending rubbish and helping politicians find excuses for shying away from promises they made to people

So how exactly is Fubara preventing wike from using his position to do one or two things for rivers people as he promised? Has he proposed any development and Fubara blocked it?

Softmirror:
That's why Fubara is an armature politician and also immature. Truth be told.

Sharrap
Wike promised rivers State that his alignment with APC is for the benefit of rivers people. Now what benefits has he brought to rivers people

Political ass lickers like you will never use your brains to demand accountability from ur political gods

Anyone found culpable should be arrested and jailed

Ibadan incidence may not have been foreseen by the organizers but the subsequent ones are products of gross negligence and refusing to learn from incidence

Moreover if you are one of those making mokery of another tribe due to these incidences, check yourself, you are gone and worthless to the human race. It's sad that human beings have become so cold and heartless.

One day we will all die or lose our loved ones, one day we will all mourn or be mourned. yesterday may be 34 yorubas, today may be 36 Igbos, tomorrow may be you. Death and tragedy knows no tribe, it's sad that we now mock and cajole each other, feeling like winners because people from other tribe are mourning their Dead

It's more worrisome the kind of comments under those news.

Somehow somehow humanity is lost. People are becoming so heartless and wicked. Waiting to laugh at other tribes when tragedy happens.

Wickedlywicked:
Funnily, I saw some videos and comments (coming from some ibos) yesterday seemingly mocking the Yorubas over the death of those poor kids. If I was from that senseless tribe, I would be dancing today on hearing this horrendous news. You see, politics have made people to grow so stupid that human lives are now seen as nothing. They littered the comment sections gloating about how the dead children were Yoruba children. Human children o. We can do better as a people to be honest. Hunger knows no tribe or color but some unfortunate entities don’t mind if you die just because they lost an election.

It's the drum the politicians play for us every 4 years that we dance everyday
They know how powerful people are when united, so they use tribe as the most powerful weapon in their arsenal.
Just that foolishness is the order of the day in Nigeria

Hia
I hope my brothers now know that hunger knows no tribe. Where freebies is announced in this tinubu Era, stampede must follow.

Instead of us to echo in unison, that this governmentis bent of killing nigerians, we will be here looking for the tribe that is most affected

Moreover if someone organized this giveaway at the backdrop of what happened in osun state, hold the organizers responsible

Na wa ooo
Why will people still go ahead and organize these events even with the stampede trend here and there. Why not devise a more strategic means?

Tinubu well done, it has never been this bad. Let's keep looking for the tribe that is most affected, instead of voicing out in unison. They keep telling us we will suffer so things will be better. Are things getting better? No
No light
No good road
Nothing Nothing
Just suffering suffering and suffering

You went there with your child, saw the mammoth crowd, and still went ahead to try to enter the gate where the crowd were surging through

Should I say carelessness or poverty?

I can't fathom how mere mortals assume so much importance in this world. When today they can be boasting and tomorrow one unpaid mortuary attendant can be kicking their bodies around.

They should sha be quick with their investigation. If the man is innocent let him be released

NSK4U:
About the East, say what you know and I will also say what I know..... The governor of Abia state in recent time joined his counterpart in Anambra state to let everyone know that those causing insecurity in the east are opposition politicians. But I understand the propaganda against IPOB and the sensation it brings. The agenda has always been like that since the great Ojukwu time.

People like us appreciate the role of ESN for clear and informed reasons. Before ESN came up, our people were beginning to stay away from the farm because of strangers who are out to occupy our farmlands forcefully in the name of herders. They come wielding machetes, swords and guns sometimes tucked in the bellies of their cow and graze on our hard laboured crops and plantations and when confronted, they attack the owners, raping both the man and woman including girl child available. In most cases, they butcher the farm owners after abusing them and if by any dint of success, the villagers get hold of them and taken to police, the matter would be transferred to Abuja where nobody hears of it again and the cycle continues. In my own community, everyone stopped going to the farm despite knowing the attendant consequences during harvest period. But ESN sprang up and established their bases in the bushes and forests, living in trees and monitoring everywhere, confidence and courage was restored to our people to return to their farmlands and as you would know, the disguised herders gave way to farmers and I know they still come occasionally to attack isolated places. So for me and my people, we can always pray that outfits like ESN will continue to receive support from the people who understand their relevance and importance. I have the experience, I'm not talking because I read political media reports all over the space trying to please their northern alliances.

Did you miss the part where they started attacking police and security checkpoints? When people were hailing them, calling them unknown Angels?
You see that's how terrorists start. They most times start up with full support from their people citing same reasons you are citing. What stops the people from pressuring their governors to form local vigilante?

During the days of gross insecurity in abia and anambra, was it not government backed bakassi that restored sanity?

Today has the ESN made the east more secured? Many Igbos have been killed by their fellow Igbos in the name of sit at home, ESN. Let's keep defending rubbish. Presently wealthy easterners are afraid of going home for Christmas

The north should have been the sweetest region to live in. Wonderful landscape, enticing weather (though harsh sometimes), Nice culture (minus the madness of islam)

But what happened? They allowed Islam destroy their land. From killing Christians duribg riots to initially thinking BH were out to help the fight Islamic jihad. But now God added Jara for them and gave the plenty bandits.

The east which was the most peaceful region few years ago allowed kanu and ipob use their heads. They initially thought esn, ipob, unknown angels were out for only police and soldiers, but now ordinary Igbos are being targeted, kidnapped and killed. I hope we have gotten the Biafra now

Most times, we bring Nemesis to our doorsteps. I rather live somewhere in SS if this country divides.

TimeManager:
You expect the communities that have been polluted and degraded for over 50years to be cleaned up in 8years?.. You get small sense true true.

-Kiss the truth!

You ve never even reached Onne or Ikot Abasi talk less of ever seeing Ogoni land. Polluted over 50years indeed. You guys are not even the least shy to bare open your ignorance.

So it's buhari that launched the clean up abi. Typical of apc idiots. They usually don't have anything upstairs asides piss and poo

TimeManager:
This Ogoni land clean up was started by the Buhari Administration, it was flagged off by Prof. Osibanjo and it is being continued by the present Administration. Ogonis have found a reliable friend in APC.


-Kiss the truth!

So in 8yrs buhari couldn't finish the clean up? So Ogoni clean up started from buhari Era? Na wa oooo
Project that was launched in 2011

Most painful thing about apc idiots is that they don't know when they are sounding absolutely stupid

Angelfrost:
1. Yes, the poverty and hunger level in Nigeria today has tripled if not quadrupled since January. This is why stricter attention to safety would have prevented this.
This is a no brainer!

2. House to house sharing with security would have succeeded without much issues. Worst case scenario, they would be thronged but definitely no stampede.

3. At LGA level, the crowd would be easier to manage... the council heads can strategize sharing even at the level of communities.


I am not talking fiction... I have helped organise such outreaches and programs, even on such large scales without such issues.

Planning is everything.

1. Her only crime was underestimating tinubu's shege
2. You seem to trust security too much, people that will release bullets when agberos and urchins start attacking the vehicles conveying the gifts
3. Council heads and LGA staffs? That will embezzle 80% of the gifts?

I have been involved in a lot of CSR and trust me you 2 and 3 will never work except in asokoro or Lagos Island

Rebelutionary:
Unfortunately, you just made your ignorance bare for all to see! So, because "nobody was jailed then

Again even in layman's term you have sworn never to use your brains. Hypocrites.

Worse still you are one of those apc things.
The only mistake that woman made is underestimating the level of shege timubu is showing nigerians. Because this is not her first year of organizing such events

Rebelutionary:
Go back and read the article and stop putting a premium on folly abeg! The OP already did!

Read: Enforce ticketing or registration to control attendance.

How does a church like RCCG house millions for days and not once has there been a stampede?! Oh you think it is magical.

See the question this one is asking that ties to the answer he is deflecting from! Common sense they say is not common and in Nigeria some of you make it an art!

Immigration already knew their numbers because people registered and even paid a thousand Naira back then....common sense should consider staggering the days for the exam! What's so difficulty in that? Asking me about who is in prison is you running on empty but just want to say something to "fill your tank"!

Ticketing? Registration? For children of the poor? Who probably don't have access to smart phones?. Ticketing? So how will the tickets be distributed?

Your last paragraph shows you don't know how to read and understand. So let me bring it down to layman's terms
I'd immigration that had everything and data they needed to organize a hitch free event failed and nobody was jailed, why are you hypocrites baring your fangs on a woman whose plans were overthrown by the poverty explosion in the country?

johannu:
You are a typical Nigerian with very poor reasoning.

Counter what i wrote there with logic and don't result to insulting your country. If you and everyone around you have poor reasoning, that's not enough sampling to make a generalization

Angelfrost:
Nope....!

1. Using a stadium with strict security mounted to allow in specific numbers at a time, with alternate entries and exits.

2. Another option would be house to house sharing of the gifts.

3. A third option would be segmented sharing or distributing at local government and street level.

1. This is not the first time the lady is organizing such event in that same state. So was it that there was a population explosion or poverty explosion? Imagine organizing an event this year with 1000 people in attendance. If you want to organize the same event next year, will you use a stadium?

2. House to house sharing of food. So they will carry trailers of freebies and people will not attack them? Hia

3. At local government level? What made you think that those children traveled from different LGAs to the venue? Max. There would be 3LGAs. Now divide that crowd into 3 and tell me how big ur LGA sectetariat is

Fiscus105:
You people must say nonsense to proof that black is white.

Were they blind wen the crowd is more than expected? Did they involve police or civil defence for assistance?

What stop them, to send back the remaining children that came after the number expected have reached.


Common sense is supposed to tell you that, anything that is free would be bombarded by poor people, not even event that also broadcast.

Sending back the remaining children? You are far from reality, it's either that security is overpowered, or a stampede will happen at that gate. Children are erratic in their attitude

Involve police, with guns? Hia na wa ooo. Stray bullet things

Going house to house would have been the best but then organizing events to help the poor should be banned in Nigeria

RenaissanceGuy:
When the FG organised a recruitment exercise and tens of people died due to stampede, was the minister not tried in court for negligence and it's because Nigeria's judiciary is a failure that he did not later go to jail. It's because we're so used to anyhowness here in Nigeria that you think the organizers shouldn't be blamed. If people have previously been jailed in the past for this kind of negligence leading to stampede, the organizers would have hired security to prevent this.

Immigration had the data of the number of people they invited and they were dealing with adults. Now make the comparison again

I was waiting for you to mention security. Where the security will position would have been a bottleneck, and disaster was still bound to happen, maybe not inside the venue but outside

As long as the security will not go to homes to stop the children from coming out, stampede was always meant to happen

You should be concerned about the multitude of parents that allowed their children go to scamper for freebies. That's widespread poverty.

Rebelutionary:
Can you please stop deflecting and face the issue that confronts us? How you forget so soon that something similar happened and not just in one state but multiple states where job seekers were killed in a stampedes when they went for immigration exams?

Mr. when you organized even if it is a naming ceremony and you INVITE people to come, you take on the responsibility of their safety and security especially when it is one for children!

This didn't happen in a market but at a designated venue by the organisers who failed in the place of planning, so your line about government has no grounds!

The issue is about PLANNING and not about poverty as a stampede could have happened in the recent Experience Music Concert.

Let's ALL learn the lessons and let the authorities do their bid to forestall future occurrence of such

Planning? For children for all kinds of background?
Mr planner give me a practical plan that could have prevented that situation. If not going to individual homes to distribute the food (a plan that may even turn chaos when people get to know what's happening)

So who and who are in prison because of immigration stampede which involved a crowd immigration were supposed to have their population count

Anything giving out free food in this country, especially when the giveaway is scheduled and publicized will turn chaotic

Angelfrost:
There can be no excuse for failing to take precautions and safety measures when expecting such a crowd...!

Anything that involves sharing of food and gifts in today's economy will definitely attract massive numbers even if the publicity is low.


Crowd control is something that should never be overlooked... It never ends well.

So what safety measures could they have taken?

Any safety measure that didn't involve stopping those children from leaving their homes "will fail" no matter what. Unless you expected them to rent the stadium. Of which tragedies were also bound to happen

Perhaps the best safety measure in the hierarchy of control was "AVOIDANCE". meaning keep your gifts and palliative to yourself

RenaissanceGuy:
You're wrong. Nigeria is very lawless if not, the organizers of that event would have since been arrested and charged for negligence and manslaughter. In developed countries, parents are jailed for "minor" negligence that leads to the death of their children let alone such a massive bout of negligence leading to the death of many children.

Organizers of the event you Say? A group of people decided to do giveaway for children, they threw an open invitation, now tell me what exactly they could have done differently?

Bring police to control crowd? Stray bullets, stampede will still happen
Lock the gate after allowing a certain number? Stampede will happen outside the gate

Go to a stadium? How exactly were they to know the state was infested with hungry children with negligent parents

As I said before, no matter what good you want to do, once things go south, the same humans you were trying to help will bare their fangs at you

We all shouting "crucify them" for setting out to put smiles on the faces of some children

They announced their free gift event
Do we Blame them for the massive crowd they might never have envisaged?
But we don't Blame govt for the massive poverty
We don't blame parents for the negligence on their own part.

It has become very obvious that having good intentions in this country is scary and may land you jail terms.

Actually the organizers' only problem was that they underestimated the wonders tinubu is doing in the lives of Nigerians

Sultty:
will u shut up your smelly mouth. Who's the irresponsible one? Is it not the organizers who open the gate to them? Seems them don swear for u from your village

Ogbeni sharrap there. If your kid was there then you are an irresponsible parent. Even if the organizers close the gate, won't the stampede be worse at the gate? So they should arrest only the organizers and praise the parents abi?

If you are lacking brains sharrap so nobody will notice