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PoliticsRe: Between Emeka Ojukwu And Bola Tinubu by ZnO:
KIRIJI: But chinua ashebe the bigot thinks otherwise. Hear him out:
'Although the Yorubas had a historical head start but the ibos (sic) wiped them off with one fantastic burst of energy' - chinua ashebe, There was a country
A little bit of a better understanding of the statement would help you.

1. Yorubas started something before Igbos
2. Then Igbos came (Abagworo has termed it aggression) .
3. When they came, they wiped out the impact that a late coming caused.
4. And since then have been at par with Yorubas ( again something that Obiagelli, a Yoruba and Abagworo, an Igbo, agree on)

Do you have any evidence of Chinua Achebe claiming Igbo are better than Yoruba? Or you just disagree that both are now equals in something that one began before the other? Or you lack the intellect to understand Achebe's statement? Which one?
PoliticsRe: Politics Of Meat Production: Where Do The Nigerian Goats, Sheep And Cattle Go? by ZnO(op): 2:28pm On Aug 13, 2014
Prophetone:

And do not forget that despite all the meat we get from our local livestock, we still import tons of poultry and tinned beef (aka corned beef). So the south will definitely continue with importation while they devise a new, modern livestock production system
PoliticsRe: Politics Of Meat Production: Where Do The Nigerian Goats, Sheep And Cattle Go? by ZnO(op): 2:19pm On Aug 13, 2014
prophetone: 1. Don't be confused, MEAT is the subject here and not just livestock. I was never referring to unprocessed meat for export. All our livestock intended for mutton/beef/poultry etc. will be slaughtered, processed and packaged for export.

2. The fact that they import meat from Botswana means a market, therefore demand, exists.
Well Cameroon does not need your meat. It is obvious because if they do, they already would have been importing it now instead of from far away Botswana

For now, you do not have a history of exporting livestock, let alone processed meat. If it happens in future, do you not think the South can also start producing its own livestock in the future? There are modern ways of intensive animal husbandry as opposed to the pastoralism going on in Northern Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Politics Of Meat Production: Where Do The Nigerian Goats, Sheep And Cattle Go? by ZnO(op): 1:53pm On Aug 13, 2014

PoliticsRe: Politics Of Meat Production: Where Do The Nigerian Goats, Sheep And Cattle Go? by ZnO(op): 1:45pm On Aug 13, 2014
prophetone: Stop speaking of what you know NOTHING of. Cameroon imports beef from far way Botswana so there's no reason they would not patronize cheaper and better quality beef. Our leather is already being bought in Italy.

Now, ZnO tell me where you will get your beef, maize and vegetable from.
FAO data as of 2011, Nigeria and Cameroon have nearly similar levels of livestock production (livestock production index of 122.97 for Nigeria and 120.27 for Cameroon), yet the populations are starkly different.

http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/AG.PRD.LVSK.XD/rankings

Factoring population, it means that per capita, Cameroon produces more livestock than Nigeria. This explains why they do not import livestock from Nigeria.

What they import from Botswana is likely processed meat and not livestock. I hope you know the difference
Regarding your question on vegetable, it depend on which. The south produces a lot of its own vegetables.

BTW, this thread is about meat and not crops. Thank you.
PoliticsRe: Politics Of Meat Production: Where Do The Nigerian Goats, Sheep And Cattle Go? by ZnO(op): 11:07am On Aug 13, 2014
It is very likely that even if Nigeria separates the north will still have to depend on the south for the sale of its livestock produce. No other readier and nearer market.
PoliticsRe: Politics Of Meat Production: Where Do The Nigerian Goats, Sheep And Cattle Go? by ZnO(op): 11:04am On Aug 13, 2014
prophetone: It's because a ready market south of the Niger already exists. It's all about strategic market positioning. Competitive pricing coupled with other marketing strategies will trigger demand from the Cameroonians which will be overwhelmingly met.
Cameroon produces lots of livestock as well, so won't be needing any from Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Politics Of Meat Production: Where Do The Nigerian Goats, Sheep And Cattle Go? by ZnO(op): 11:00am On Aug 13, 2014
emiye: SW will get from subsistence farm products and neigboring benin republic. In fact, currently lots of imported frozen foods, rice, veg. oil e.t.c are smuggled in from benin republic
How sustainable will this smuggling be?
PoliticsPolitics Of Meat Production: Where Do The Nigerian Goats, Sheep And Cattle Go? by ZnO(op):
This National Geographic photo below shows herds of goats and sheep being shipped to Saudi Arabia from Somali.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/foodfeatures/land-grab/images/pair_2048.jpg


Yes, the same Somali ravaged by war and political instability. The same Somali where the Islamic terrorist group, Alshabaab, has been holding sway long before our own Boko Haram was conceived.

So Somali exports small ruminant livestock abroad. But where are the livestock in Nigeria going to? Definitely not overseas.

I have read somewhere that more than 100 million livestock are produced in Nigeria, which of course has a much larger internal market than Somali. However, I am not sure between the two countries who produces more livestock. One thing that is sure is that even at the current livestock production rate, Nigeria is still far from being self-sufficient in meat consumption. Many people do not eat meat as regularly as they should. Others resort to bush meat, but still on an irregular basis.

Most of the cattle, sheep and goats produced in Nigeria come from the North. Of course, there is small-scale production of these animals in the south, and a much larger scale production of chicken and pig in the south than goat, sheep and cattle. In the absence of export of livestock by Nigeria, one presumes that all the animals not consumed in northern Nigeria are shipped to southern Nigeria. Indeed, it is a daily sight seeing truckloads upon truckloads of these animals heading to Enugu, Lagos, Umuahia, Aba, Port Harcourt and Ibadan, from where they are distributed to other southern cities. That is the power of our huge population and the relative affluence of the average southerner, compared to the average northerner.

Now playing the devil's advocate a little bit. Let's assume for a second that Nigeria splits, say into North and South. Within the time it takes for the different splinter zones to figure themselves out, who buys the livestock from the North? Keep in mind that the North does not have ready access to the sea, neither does it have a rail line extending outside Nigeria, nor would its closest neighbors, Niger, Chad, Cameroon and Benin, be needing their livestock that much, if at all, since they also have theirs.

And for the south, where would they get their meat from while the arrival of ships loads of imported foreign meat is awaited?

PoliticsRe: Yabatech's False Claim: an example of lies told by Some Nigerians by ZnO(op): 5:15am On Aug 18, 2013
LFJ: Ignorance at the pick
As in tooth pick. LWKMD.
PoliticsRe: Yabatech's False Claim: an example of lies told by Some Nigerians by ZnO(op):
LFJ: I don't need to tell who is a foo.l. Definitely, it shd be that person who failed to put behind, his misrable past. Why who I bother myself over what one foo.l is pointing out? If you have exam to write, and you are practicing, best of luck to you. As for me, I am hot in my field both home and abroad. If you are having miserable history, and the present is not too good for you, check your mouth. I give you free hands to edit any of my writeup, I have crossed the ocean, I am already enjoying the best out of life. We are all faceless on Nairaland, but in real life, with your mouth you are not just there yet.
You are too lowly for me.
PoliticsRe: Yabatech's False Claim: an example of lies told by Some Nigerians by ZnO(op): 1:22am On Aug 18, 2013
LFJ: If that is the way you want to go, I am ready for you. With the little I have seen here, you are not just my match in the written skill. I may not be perfect, but you are just too below my game. Been a graduate of Yabatech is not a crime and not what anybody should be ashamed of. Belittle the academic excellent of Yabatech products is a futher confirmation of your ignorance.
You really have to kill yourself. Dunce. Tabula rasa.
PoliticsRe: Yabatech's False Claim: an example of lies told by Some Nigerians by ZnO(op): 12:54am On Aug 18, 2013
LFJ: If am daft, you must be something higher than daft. So, in your imagination, if the federal government hire Uche or Okoro to manage Yabatech, the fact that Uche or Okoro of Ibo lineage turn out to be incompetent mean we should hold the present and future generation of Ibo responsible for the incompetent of Uche and Okoro. If you are having bad day while not keep that within your family and stop making fo.ol of yourself here. Your stupidity is increasing at Geom. Prog.
You must be a graduate of Yabatech, seeing how you murder the English language. Lol. No commit suicide oh!!!!

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