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Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 11:02am On May 02
AbuTwins:

God only accused him of Uriah and his wife. What about the others?
The accusation is for murder, adultery and covetousness! There's no proof it is for Polygamy as you claimed!

Thank God you included "Adultery"

Is there polygamy without adultery?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by RightChannel: 11:03am On May 02
AbuTwins:


God only accused him of Uriah and his wife. What about the others?
The accusation is for murder, adultery and covetousness! There's no proof it is for Polygamy as you claimed!

Then God gave David Saul's wives after Saul
"And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives (plural) into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.


Why was Muhammad not condemned and accused by Allah for snatching his adopted son's wife?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by Petalss: 3:52pm On May 02
StillDtruth:


Is there polygamy without adultery?

YES

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Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by AbuTwins: 4:36pm On May 02
RightChannel:


Why was Muhammad not condemned and accused by Allah for snatching his adopted son's wife?

Show us the accusation from any of his contemporary?

We have evidence your God got 32 war virgins in Numbers 31:40!
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by AbuTwins: 4:39pm On May 02
StillDtruth:


Thank God you included "Adultery"

Is there polygamy without adultery?

Yes, God will never support adultery by protecting those in it.

"If a man have two wives..." Deuteronomy 21:15

The passage of Deuteronomy 21:15-17 is a specific instruction in the Law Itself to any man with "two wives". If polygamy was a sin, then it would not be possible for a "man to have two wives" in the Law.

"If a man has two wives, one beloved and the other unloved, and both bear him sons, but the unloved wife has the firstborn son, 16when that man assigns his inheritance to his sons he must not appoint the son of the beloved wife as the firstborn over the son of the unloved wife. Instead, he must acknowledge the firstborn, the son of his unloved wife, by giving him a double portion of all that he has. For that son is the firstfruits of his father’s strength; the right of the firstborn belongs to him"
Deuteronomy 21:15-17.


Secondly, God said If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.
Exodus 21:10


God makes laws protecting the First wife & previous wives here.
Note that this verse comes only 22 verses AFTER the 7th Commandment ("Thou shalt not commit adultery" in Exodus 20:14.)
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 4:17am On May 03
AbuTwins:

Yes, God will never support adultery by protecting those in it.

You did not explain how there is polygamy without Adultery.

Thank God you confirm that God can never support adultery.

But, i ask again is there polygamy without adultery?


AbuTwins:

"If a man have two wives..." Deuteronomy 21:15

Did they not already have wives and idols and abominations when God gave them these Commandments?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 4:22am On May 03
Petalss:


YES

How?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by Petalss: 7:53am On May 03
StillDtruth:


How?
Somehow, anyhow.
Marrying two wives at the same time.
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 8:43am On May 03
Petalss:

Somehow, anyhow.
Marrying two wives at the same time.

That is where The Law of Greed and Lust and taking beyond you Lawful due and immorality (Twosome) will catch and condemn the parties, thereto fot it is a gross breach of The Law of Marriage "male and female created He then"!

He did not create them male and females!
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by FayaBall: 8:51am On May 03
Petalss:

Somehow, anyhow.
Marrying two wives at the same time.

A man cannot marry two wives at the same time without first marrying one then the other thereafter even if it's at the same event.

One comes before the other therefore the first one is the lawful wife and the second unlawful thus committing bigamy, Polygamy and even Adultery.

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Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by AbuTwins: 10:11am On May 03
StillDtruth:


You did not explain how there is polygamy without Adultery.

Thank you confirm that God can never support adultery.

But, i ask again is there polygamy without adultery?

Define marriage according to the Bible?

Did they not already have wives and idols and abominations when God gave them these Commandments?

How is that related to the question?
Why did God gave laws to protect Polygamy if He doesn't support it?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 10:21am On May 03
AbuTwins:

Define marriage according to the Bible?

You are changing post.

Can you show how polygamy can take place without adultery as this man has shown?

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife ...

Even this was man pushed to the extent of swallowing a whole phone and ofcourse you know it is because of an extra wife that.he did it.

https://www.nairaland.com/8041886/man-swallows-phone-prevent-wife#129109568

AbuTwins:

How is that related to the question?
Why did God gave laws to protect Polygamy if He doesn't support it?

How is this protection of polygamy when this is God trying to protect the party suffering from the wickedness and evil of polygamy and the causer of the polygamy?

So, when God says if a man steals it means therefore that means God is protecting stealing?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by Petalss: 11:23am On May 03
FayaBall:


A man cannot marry two wives at the same time without first marrying one then the other thereafter even if it's at the same event.

One comes before the other therefore the first one is the lawful wife and the second unlawful thus committing bigamy, Polygamy and even Adultery.
Your question was can a man be polygamous without adultery. I only showed you how that can be done if you think taking a second wife after the first according to your own definition of adultery (looking at another woman when you're already married).
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by AbuTwins: 11:45am On May 03
StillDtruth:


You are changing post.

You are the one changing post and then playing the victim!
The post is about Polygamy which includes marriage!

At least a man has to marry more than once to be in polygamy!

Define marriage according to the Bible?

Can you show how polygamy can take place without adultery as this man has shown?

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife ...

Even this was man pushed to the extent of swallowing a whole phone and ofcourse you know it is because of an extra wife that.he did it.

https://www.nairaland.com/8041886/man-swallows-phone-prevent-wife#129109568

All these are unrelated to the thread!

How is this protection of polygamy when this is God trying to protect the party suffering from the wickedness and evil of polygamy and the causer of the polygamy?


God is omniscient. He could have stopped the marriage since He knew it will cause suffering! He didn't!
God made laws for people in Polygamy!

Cain's son Lamech and Moses had 2 wives. David has said before had over 7 wives! Solomon 300 wives and 700 concubines! Gideon had many wives!

Deuteronomy 21:1-17 suggest marriage of multiple wives including captured prisoners gotten from conquests.

Elkanah a godly man and father of Samuel had 2 wives.

Abraham, the father of faith and the Friend of God had two wives!

So, when God says if a man steals it means therefore that means God is protecting stealing?
How is stealing related to marriage?

God said David was perfect except for the case of Uriah and his wife!
This not not mention all his many other wives does it?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by FayaBall: 3:19pm On May 03
Petalss:

Your question was can a man be polygamous without adultery. I only showed you how that can be done if you think taking a second wife after the first according to your own definition of adultery (looking at another woman when you're already married).

I was not the one who asked the question but I responded to your answer.

Now I have shown you that he commits Adultery (looking at another woman, in this case the second woman, after all he's already married to the 1st), then Polygamy, bigamy, as one wife must come before the other even in that circumstance.
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by Petalss: 5:45pm On May 03
FayaBall:


I was not the one who asked the question but I responded to your answer.

Now I have shown you that he commits Adultery (looking at another woman, in this case the second woman, after all he's already married to the 1st), then Polygamy, bigamy, as one wife must come before the other even in that circumstance.

I'm single, and there is this girl I am looking at right now. I'm interested in marrying her. Am I fornicating with her?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by FayaBall: 6:58pm On May 03
Petalss:


I'm single, and there is this girl I am looking at right now. I'm interested in marrying her. Am I fornicating with her?

Fornication is not in issue here but Adultery so you have left the issue.
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by Petalss: 7:59pm On May 03
FayaBall:


Fornication is not in issue here but Adultery so you have left the issue.

I'm sorry for derailing, i only want to know if i am fornicating in that scenario?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by FayaBall: 8:05pm On May 03
Petalss:


I'm sorry for derailing, i only want to know if i am fornicating in that scenario?

What do you think?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 9:44pm On May 03
AbuTwins:

You are the one changing post and then playing the victim!
The post is about Polygamy which includes marriage!

At least a man has to marry more than once to be in polygamy!

And we all know that polygamy is a type of marriage which yoi.have even defined, which is why you zoomed in on polygamy, and left the meaning of marriage behind.

So, you are the one trying to change post from polygamy to marriage because you cannot truthully answer the question

Can you show how polygamy can take place without adultery as this man has shown?

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife ...

Even this was man pushed to the extent of swallowing a whole phone and ofcourse you know it is because of an extra wife that.he did it.

And so now, you have started resorting to lies and twistings all because you cannot answer the question.

AbuTwins:

God is omniscient. He could have stopped the marriage since He knew it will cause suffering! He didn't!.

Are hearing the stupid words coming out of your mouth? Do you real eyes that the whole human race should be stopped since every family and nation was in polygamy?

Please keep stupidity out of this.

AbuTwins:

God made laws for people in Polygamy!...

See fraud! Are we not already arguing this which is why i askec you the question Can you show how polygamy can take place without adultery as this man has shown?

which you have been dodging?

AbuTwins:

How is stealing related to marriage?

Do the 2 of them not start with "if a man.."
Please you don't have any valid thing to say.

AbuTwins:

God said David was perfect except for the case of Uriah and his wife!

Now you are Lying on God, especially as you still even acknowledged that he had a scandal whereas the persons who God called "PERFECT" had no scandal.

Chai! You are finished.
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 9:56pm On May 03
FayaBall:


A man cannot marry two wives at the same time without first marrying one then the other thereafter even if it's at the same event.

One comes before the other therefore the first one is the lawful wife and the second unlawful thus committing bigamy, Polygamy and even Adultery.

True!
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 10:01pm On May 03
Petalss:


I'm single, and there is this girl I am looking at right now. I'm interested in marrying her. Am I fornicating with her?

In the truth of your heart do you not already know the difference between lust and love?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by AbuTwins: 11:36pm On May 03
StillDtruth:


And we all know that polygamy is a type of marriage which yoi.have even defined, which is why you zoomed in on polygamy, and left the meaning of marriage behind.

So, you are the one trying to change post from polygamy to marriage because you cannot truthully answer the question

Can you show how polygamy can take place without adultery as this man has shown?

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife ...

Even this was man pushed to the extent of swallowing a whole phone and ofcourse you know it is because of an extra wife that.he did it.

And so now, you have started resorting to lies and twistings all because you cannot answer the question.



Are hearing the stupid words coming out of your mouth? Do you real eyes that the whole human race should be stopped since every family and nation was in polygamy?

Please keep stupidity out of this.



See fraud! Are we not already arguing this which is why i askec you the question Can you show how polygamy can take place without adultery as this man has shown?

which you have been dodging?



Do the 2 of them not start with "if a man.."
Please you don't have any valid thing to say.



Now you are Lying on God, especially as you still even acknowledged that he had a scandal whereas the persons who God called "PERFECT" had no scandal.

Chai! You are finished.


No vex!
Na me pass my boundary go pick up a dunce to reply!
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by Petalss: 3:45am On May 04
StillDtruth:


In the truth of your heart do you not already know the difference between lust and love?
Please do we close of our eyes to see the one we love?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by Petalss: 3:46am On May 04
FayaBall:


What do you think?
I think I am looking before I leap.
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 6:43am On May 04
Petalss:

Please do we close of our eyes to see the one we love?

And also the one you lust after. Which is why i asked you "In the truth of your heart do you not already know the difference between lust and love?

And not in the truth of your eyes.

Also, if you are not a woman eater, then the bible shows not all lust originates fron you; it is the evil woman who calls and draws.you, using the power of the spirit, which is why we call them witches, who has ignited amd awoken it.

And that is why God is Angry with them everyday, for He sees their wickedness which is why He is always complaining about their whoredom and seduction[b] and seduction means "sex induction".[/b]

"Seduction is the act of making someone want to engage in sexual activity with you, especially in a subtle or manipulative way. Seduction is also commonly used in a more general way meaning the act of tempting or influencing someone to do something, especially something bad or something they wouldn't normally do.

Because the power of lust is upon you and moving you to act and because men are known to love sex and outwardly, it looks like they.the first to take the steps towards accomplishing it

Whereas, it is an evil set up created by women. As long as you are not a person whose heart is set on pursuing women, then 80%-90%. See Proverbs 4 to Proverbs 9 on women's ways/Job 31.

it is the woman who planted the lust and desire, knowing that men don't know this, but all women know and that is why even before you thought of doing it, your girlfriend/and every woman starts to look at you sudpiciously. And also, that is why they call each other "witches" and "ashawo" when they quarrel.

So your lust may not be your own sole making but when you act on it, that one is solely yours for it is you who acted. And guilt comes because you carried out an action which makes a person guilty "Actus Reus"!

Hence In the truth of your heart do you not already know the difference between lust and love?
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by StillDtruth: 7:03am On May 04
AbuTwins:


No vex!
Na me pass my boundary go pick up a dunce to reply!

In other words you know you are a Liar and a devil come to profane The Name of The Lord which is why you, like all the other.devils i have asked cannot show how polygamy can take place without adultery as this man has shown?
Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife .
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by RightChannel: 5:23pm On May 07
AbuTwins:


Show us the accusation from any of his contemporary?

We have evidence your God got 32 war virgins in Numbers 31:40!

Here is the evidence, Muhammad didn't get shame


Tabari VIII:4:

“One day Muhammad went out looking for Zayd. Now there was a covering of haircloth over the doorway, but the wind had lifted the covering so that the doorway was uncovered. Zaynab was in her chamber, undressed, and admiration for her entered the heart of the Prophet. After that Allah made her unattractive to Zayd.”


Allah even supports him snatching and marrying his adopted son's wife

Surah 33:37-38: “And when you said to him to whom Allah had shown favor and to whom you had shown a favor: Keep your wife to yourself and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; and you concealed in your soul what Allah would bring to light, and you feared men, and Allah had a greater right that you should fear Him. But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons,when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah’s command shall be performed. There is no harm in the Prophet doing that which Allah has ordained for him; such has been the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and the command of Allah is a decree that is made absolute.”


According to the above Qur’anic verses, Allah himself ordained the marriage between Muhammad and Zainab while she was still the wife of his adopted son.
Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by AbuTwins: 9:54am On May 08
RightChannel:


Here is the evidence, Muhammad didn't get shame

Tabari VIII:4:

“One day Muhammad went out looking for Zayd. Now there was a covering of haircloth over the doorway, but the wind had lifted the covering so that the doorway was uncovered. Zaynab was in her chamber, undressed, and admiration for her entered the heart of the Prophet. After that Allah made her unattractive to Zayd.”


Allah even supports him snatching and marrying his adopted son's wife

Surah 33:37-38: “And when you said to him to whom Allah had shown favor and to whom you had shown a favor: Keep your wife to yourself and be careful of (your duty to) Allah; and you concealed in your soul what Allah would bring to light, and you feared men, and Allah had a greater right that you should fear Him. But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons,when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah’s command shall be performed. There is no harm in the Prophet doing that which Allah has ordained for him; such has been the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and the command of Allah is a decree that is made absolute.”

According to the above Qur’anic verses, Allah himself ordained the marriage between Muhammad and Zainab while she was still the wife of his adopted son.


What reference is Tabari VIII:4: in Islam?

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