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Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by Houseofglam7(f): 11:02am
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Properties / Re: Canopies: We Fabricate And Supply Various Types And Sizes {Aba} by GlobalAdvtForum: 11:02am
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Autos / Re: 2009 Benz C300 @ 6.7 by lolly24000: 11:02am
Available
Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by ClearFlair: 11:02am
Paraman:
700/$ before the end of July

Naso
Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by Afonjacoward: 11:02am
Artificial remedy
Politics / Re: A year of trial-and-error economic policies - Atiku on Tinubu's 1st Year Anniv by michoim(m): 11:02am
ncoolsome:



Is he right or wrong ?? Leave the long story..
You can say that again...Thumbs up!!!

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Technology Market / Re: SHIP GOODS FROM US&UK VIA SEA|Nationwide Delivery by Gimporters: 11:02am
Get in touch for your sea shipment from US and UK.

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Politics / Re: Minimum Wage Committee Meeting Postponed Indefinitely by Niccoloimhotep: 11:02am
helinues:
"Sine die"

Toh
na God go judge you and your bandwagon of hardship facilitators. Una go pay till una 5th generation offspring. Useless people
Car Talk / Re: Your Advise Is Urgently Needed..... Toyota Avalon 2006 Limited by ThegreatDon: 11:02am
sunnymighty:


Wahala loading let your mechanic do a proper check/inspection and tell you how much it will cost to fix, you and the seller can reach an agreement, hope the sound will not eventually lead to gear problem?

I hope so too, thanks for your feedback
Sports / Re: Footballers Around The World Post All Eyes On Rafah On Social Media. by RussellRutherfo: 11:02am
StreetFight:


Adolf Hilter caused this, he didn't finish what he started. He used six million Jews for pepper soup and suya, he should have completed what he started. But then, another Hitler will arise among the Palestines who will complete the work that Hitler started.

Not hitler or Muhammad the pedo fake prophet or even you can do it.

Every experience that israel has gone through has been written and they will all survive all hate from satanic muslims and nazis.
Investment / Re: Travad.com: Experience by firdouz: 11:02am
Abort mission. Search on Linkedin and see people lamenting
Autos / Re: Neatly Used 2007 Honda Pilot @enugu by o42austino(m): 11:02am
Still available
Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by Bacteriologist(m): 11:01am
The unified exchange rate has been deunified.

Or why are we having such spread between official and black market rate?

APC Tinubu and Voodoo economics are like 5 and 6 grin

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 11:01am
camri:
is foden better than palmer?
Foden is better, forget that Palmer has an excellent season compared to Foden. Form is temporary but class is permanent

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Technology Market / Re: SHIP GOODS FROM US&UK VIA SEA|Nationwide Delivery by Gimporters: 11:01am
Are you shipping items above 50kg? We got you covered. Take advantage of our sea freight from the US & UK.

WhatsApp: 08163069073.
Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by CatchMeIfUCanMO: 11:01am
Story Story!!

Most importers use parallel market price and again the rate of custom duty is also to be considered.

If I say PRO and you say PA and another man say GANDA, na you sabi.

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Crime / Sent Money To Wrong Account , How Do I Get It Back by free234free: 11:01am
I mistakenly sent 20k to a wrong uba account using my opay. I contacted opay and opay claimed to have contacted the bank and claims the money can't be gotten back. Please how do I go about getting this money back. Thanks

Autos / Re: Direct Tokunbo 2015 Toyota Camry @enugu by o42austino(m): 11:01am
Still available
Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by SpecialAdviser(m): 11:01am
Before evening you will hear a different story
. Just wait

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Business / Re: Ice-Block Sellers Use Freezing Chemicals Over Epileptic Power Supply by saddler: 11:01am
nedekid:

It is not unhygienic. There are different ways of making ice, this is one of them.
Most industrial ice makers use this process. Way back in the day under opebi link road, there was an ice making company there where the made large slabs of ice. You could also buy for personal use.

It is unhygienic to use Certain chemicals to make ice that will be used in contact with food.


Read and learn.
Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by Parydelegate: 11:01am
Click LIKE if you are happy with this news 😀 😊
Click SHARE if you feel otherwise 😔 😟


Sell those dollars now...
Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by ClearFlair: 11:01am
Ofunaofu:
Tinubu's first year anniversary abracadabra

lol

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Politics / Re: One Year In Office: Tinubu’s Score Card (Photos) by Holluwhakemmy(f): 11:01am
OredoPikin:

If na Tinubu or APC i dey wait to fix Nigeria,
Baba u go wait forever
APC or Tinubu is not interested in solving our problems
His policies so far is how to generate more money from the already poor masses to loot for himself
Who do you believe will do the right things then?
Autos / Re: Used Volkswagen Sharon For Sale @enugu by o42austino(m): 11:01am
Still available
Politics / Re: Senate Passes Bill To Return Old National Anthem by Usmanovic95(m): 11:01am
I'm curiously trying to figure out the effect this will have on the State of the nation.
Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by flourish01(m): 11:01am
Ok
Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by kambili999(f): 11:01am
Anniversary Abracadabra

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Religion / Re: The Atheists Costly Error: Assumption That Everything REAL Must Be TANGIBLE by KnownUnknown: 11:01am
JessicaRabbit:


If we're talking about an "Alien" creator, I'd expect it to be, well, alien! Not some vague, intangible, invisible entity that just so happens to have human-like qualities like consciousness and intentionality. If we're talking about a being capable of creating an entire universe, I'd expect it to be bound by different physical laws, not just conveniently invisible to our detection methods. I wouldn't expect such a being to "look" like anything, precisely because our understanding of "looking" is bound by our physical reality. But I would expect some form of empirical evidence, some tangible manifestation of its existence, something that doesn't rely on philosophical hand-waving and hypotheticals.



You're still chasing your tail here. I already told you that software and spirits are fundamentally different. Software, as I mentioned earlier, is a series of instructions that a machine interprets, with observable effects and testable results. It's a product of human ingenuity and can be studied, replicated, and improved upon. Spirits are extraordinary claims that require, well, extraordinary evidence. You can't just say "God is real, just like software" and expect me to nod in agreement. Regarding your Aboriginal man example, I'd say he's correct in demanding evidence, but his understanding of software might be limited. I'd explain to him that software is a human-made creation, not a physical entity inside the computer. Take note of this fundamental distinction! It's a set of instructions that makes the computer do things. I'd use an analogy like a recipe book: just as a recipe book contains instructions to make a cake, software contains instructions for the computer to perform tasks. But, I'd also tell him that demanding evidence for extraordinary claims is a universal principle, and it applies to all claims, not just software. So, if someone claims a magical spirit lives inside the computer, I'd ask for evidence, just as I would for any other extraordinary claim.

You've continuously implied that God is a being that exists outside the laws of physics, chemistry, and biology, yet you've refused to demonstrate how we can even discuss or understand this entity using our human language and reasoning, which are bound by those very laws. Even if we assume that the cause of the universe's expansion is unknown, it's a huge leap to attribute it to a supernatural entity. The Big Bang theory is well-supported by observational evidence from many fields of science, and it's a natural phenomenon that can be explained by physical laws. We may not know what triggered the expansion, but that's a gap in our knowledge, not a justification for inserting a deity.



A washing machine's function, unlike the universe's existence, can be traced back to human ingenuity and scientific principles. We have empirical evidence of human innovation and problem-solving at play.

If you're unwilling to accept the analogy, that's okay, but don't pretend it's because you're unaware of computer programming. That's a very dishonest red herring. The real issue is that you're struggling to provide empirical evidence for your divine programmer claim. So, let's get back on track: where's the evidence for this cosmic programmer? Stop hiding behind a veil of ignorance. Confront the logic and your lack of evidence head-on!



You're pretending to ask a question, while actually trying to shift the burden of proof. Another class act from you, and I'm not buying it.



You're the one who claimed atheists on Nairaland twist definitions, so the onus is on you to provide evidence.



Of course, I disagree with the implication that the only two options are:

(1) A computer was brought to Mars by intelligent creatures.

(2) A computer evolved from Martian soil over trillions of years.

Agreeing with you here would be tantamount to committing a false dichotomy. Again, you're making me repeat myself! What about other possibilities, such as:

(3) A computer was created by a previously unknown form of Martian life that doesn't fit our conventional definition of "intelligent creatures"?

(4) A computer-like device was deposited on Mars by a natural process, like a meteorite or a comet, carrying materials from another celestial body?

(5) A computer was left on Mars as a remnant of an ancient civilization that has since gone extinct?



It's a good thing we do not apply your sort of logic to other complex phenomena like gravity or electromagnetism, else humanity would still be stuck in the Dark Ages. Just because we can't directly observe or measure something with our senses doesn't mean it requires a supernatural explanation. Our understanding of the world should be guided by evidence and testable theories, not gaps in our current knowledge.



Atheism isn't about being ignorant of deities. It's about recognizing the lack of empirical evidence for their existence. Similarly, just because we can't fully understand dreams doesn't mean we must accept your dream as objective reality. That's a textbook case of the argument from ignorance fallacy. So, the question remains: where's the empirical evidence for your extraordinary claim?



The heat death of the universe suggests that usable energy will eventually run out, not that the fundamental laws of cause and effect take a permanent vacation. Consider that even in a universe where stars have all burned out and everything's lukewarm, gravity will still pull objects together, black holes will still evaporate (albeit very slowly), and particles will still interact. Cause and effect might be sluggish, but they won't be taking a dirt nap just yet. More importantly, the heat death scenario only applies if the universe is finite. If it's infinitely vast, well, there could always be some crazy corner where stars are still forming, defying the whole "everything fizzles out" shebang. The vastness of the cosmos is a mind-bender, after all. Therefore, the jury's still out on the infinite regress question. One thing is certain though: your attempt to tie it neatly to the heat death with some philosophical duct tape simply won't hold.



When I say "invent," I don't mean that humans conjured up mathematical concepts from thin air. Rather, we developed a system to describe and apply those concepts. The laws of mathematics, as we understand them, are a product of human cognition and ingenuity. You're just attempting to draw a distinction without a difference. The physical principle of gravity existed before Newton, but the equation F=ma is a human invention. We didn't "discover" the equation inscribed on a stone tablet in the cosmos. We derived it through observation, experimentation, and mathematical abstraction. Similarly, the relationship between numbers and quantities is an objective feature of the universe, but the number system itself, with its symbols, operations, and rules, is a human construct. We didn't "discover" the number 4; we created a symbol and a concept to represent the idea of "four-ness". What this clearly means is that: without a mind to create and utilize mathematical concepts, they remain mere abstractions, devoid of meaning or significance. The universe may contain patterns and structures, but it's up to us to recognize, describe, and apply them through the lens of mathematics.



The question isn't whether logic exists independently of our realization or not. The question is whether logic has an objective existence beyond our tool-making minds. We create logical frameworks to describe and make sense of the world, much like we create maps to navigate territories. The laws of logic, like the laws of physics, are descriptive tools, not inherent properties of the universe. Logic exists because we've realized its applications and continue to refine it as a tool.



You're mistaking a mathematical concept for the actual state of the universe. dE=0 doesn't mean the party's over, just that the energy's evenly distributed. The molecules are still vibrating, just at a different frequency.



Trying to imply that your critics are "ignorant fools" only weakens your argument, not mine. At best, you sound like a toddler throwing a tantrum because his blocks won't defy gravity.

Anyways, now that you've conceded that consciousness isn't the key to cause and effect, then what is it? Is there a divine breakfast fairy who judges the toast's doneness with a celestial timer? Or perhaps a pantheon of carb-loving deities residing within your toaster, arguing over the perfect shade of golden brown?



Okay. So how do you explain the emergence of complex life forms through non-biological means?



Projecting...



Well, first of all, I should probably point out here that the notion that matter was created 13.8 billion years ago is a rather narrow view of the universe. What about the possibility of eternal inflation, or the concept of quantum fluctuations giving rise to our universe? The origins of the universe are still a topic of much debate and exploration in the scientific community.

And as for the symphony of subatomic particles, I'd argue that it's precisely the emergence of complex systems from simple rules that makes the universe so fascinating. The conductor, in this case, is the laws of physics themselves. Regarding the swirling vortex of pure information, I'm not making a bet on possibility. I'm merely highlighting the limitations of our current understanding. Information, in the context of the universe, can be thought of as the intricate web of relationships between particles, forces, and energies. It's a bit like asking whether a melody can exist without a mind to perceive it. The music is still there, even if no one is listening. The question of whether information can exist without a mind is a classic example of the mind-body problem. I'd argue that information is an emergent property of the universe, much like consciousness itself. It's a product of complex interactions, not a fundamental aspect of reality that requires a mind to exist.



Scientists have already made tremendous progress in understanding the processes that lead to the self-organization of complex systems, from the origins of life to the development of complex technologies like computer chips. They've also made progress in understanding the neural correlates of consciousness, the evolution of cognitive abilities, and the complex interplay between brain, body, and environment. It's called science, and it's based on evidence, experimentation, and rigorous testing, not wishful thinking or divine intervention. So tell me why, TenQ. Why in the world, do I still need to invoke an imaginary concept and shoehorn it into a discussion where it has little to no relevance?

Kudos to you for your patience with that character.
Business / Re: Naira Strengthens To ₦1173 At Official Market by educatedfool: 11:01am
really
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by camri: 11:01am
Ballzproblem2:
Palmer on the celebration : “All my comments on instagram were always saying “cold, Cold Palmer” and stuff like this so I did that celebration against Luton and it just stuck from there. I’ve got all the little kids coming up to me doing it. It makes me laugh to see the kids do it, they really enjoy it and so it’s a fun thing to do. (@MirrorFootball) #CFC


just add trophies and palmer will become a cult hero
when potter was appointed, you were praising him to the high heaven. Another mid level coach is about to be hired and I can't see your appraisal. You are not a sincere person
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:01am
CrystalTiger:
OBJ is who he says he is...

The state of this country immediately the evil party entered...
Omor, this APC thing is not working sha... over 30% inflation in one year...across just 4 years, na die be that. PDP kept inflation numbers around 11%, APC is averaging like 25% each year...wahala.

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