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Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by oturugo(m): 10:57pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
mimifonwon:Common lil girl, spare your long silly sermon in this thread. If I wear a red hat, then you should come and arrest me. What sort of nonsense are you preaching here. We all know the significance of the red hat, but this is a modern era, people wear what they like. Have you not seen people wearing a neclace with cross yet they are not xtians. Why not go and preach to them. The Igbo people of today wear the red hat as fasion and it fits them well that is what matters. No need foaming through your yeye mouth on who should wear the red hat or not. I hope this will settle in your tiny brain. 1 Like |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by ChinenyeN(m): 10:59pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
ezeagu: I just think it would be best for everybody to 'ansa eem papa name'. Exactly. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by Abagworo(m): 10:59pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
I don't think we need to lay unnecessary emphasis on this hat of a thing. You can wear whatever you like including the Queen's crown but do not wear it to her domain period. An untitled man cannot wear the red heart in his village but can wear it else where. We all know this. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by mimifonwon(f): 10:59pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
ezeagu: Because you missed the significance of the names they are given.Its like telling a doctor, i am only gonna call you your name your parents gave you,and will not recognize your accomplishments... yeah i didnt think so. Please dont take offense, its just that my grandfather was livid when he saw what i saw of children rocking the same hat he had received after fighting in wars and, that now children and young people who dont know the meaning just put it on for fashion sake. I hope you caught my flow. I meant no personal attack. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by oturugo(m): 11:05pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
ChinenyeN:Everyone has already answered im papa name, and now what next, their mama name, isn't it?. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:05pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
afam4eva: is making money ALL you ever think of what if i asked you to sell off your children tomorrow to earn money for the state. . will you do it?? |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by odumchi: 11:10pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
oturugo: Lmao |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by oturugo(m): 11:11pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
PAGAN 9JA:You did not understand his post perfectly, what he means is that the Igbo people can have an outfit which they have sold to outsiders just as Yorubas and Hausas have done. His ideas are good. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:16pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
oturugo: so sell the outfit. why sell something meant only for respectable people and elders tomorrow you will tell me to sell the Chiefs staff. day after tomorrow, his throne or replicas like them. WTH? cant you respect culture for once. In my opinion, the red cap is like a trophy or a medal. you cant just buy a trophy from a store and say you won it!!! that shows what a degenerate you are. somethings ought to be as they are meant to be. the red cap encourages young Igbos to prove themselves to the world, in order to earn it. . even the uk gives titles and honorifics such as Sir, Lord, etc. . you wont find commmon good-for-nothings wearing those titles. people strive to earn them. you cant just decrease its value or else this world will be filled with boors and useless peoples. . 1 Like |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:20pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
mimifonwon: I AM HAUSA AND I AM WITH YOU BROTHER! TODAYS WORLD NEEDS TO LEARN SOME RESPECT! SOME OF YOUR OWN TRIBESMEN ARE A BUNCH OF WORTHLESS PEOPLE WHO DONT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING. "MOVE ON" MOVE WHERE?? TO THE MOON??!!! USELESS F.AGS. . |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by oturugo(m): 11:26pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
PAGAN 9JA:Aboki llama, there is no need for you to come here to vomit rubbish instead of concentrating on all the ills ravaging Hausaland presently. At the moment, people will be interested in sharing your opinions on how to tackle boko haram instead of chatting bolocks in this thread. New gender homo. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by ezeagu(m): 11:26pm On Aug 01, 2012 |
mimifonwon: When I made that statement I wasn't replying you, in a way what I said was supporting your stance. I mean't everyone should uphold the culture of their ancestors and that's it. There shouldn't be any forced attempt to 'create' a new general culture from other peoples customs and traditions. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by NRIPRIEST(m): 1:41am On Aug 02, 2012 |
afam4eva: Nwokem,are you drunk or what? Do you even know the true meaning of the "okpu nmee" ? The hat was orininaly made for the "mburuchis"(apostles of the Nri religion). When you take the "Ozo" you become a holy man just like the "iyom"(for the females). You arent suppose to tell lies,sleep with another man's wife,bear false witness,take your neigbhors land,,kill someone unjustly,stay out late at night,get drunk in the public. Nobody is allowed to whistle at an "Ozo" man's house at night,disrespects him and an "onye Ozo" isnt suppose to engage in a fight. There are many rules that guides the "Ozo" traditions. The "Nze na Ozo" hat is not the only Igbo hat available. You are encouraging the bastardization of our beloved Nri tradition and I will advice you to step away! Obviously,you are very ignorant of the implications of that your stupid suggestion! Go to your Enugu land and create a hat so that all Igbos can wear it! I met a man in a trsditional wedding in Houston who had the red hat on. I approuched him politely and asked him if he is an "onye nze" and to my utmost surprise he doesnt even know what it is but he is wearing an "okpu nmee"! I told him to his face that he has no right to wear that hat if he is not an "onye nze" or an "Igwe" and he was looking at me in a crazy way. I got upset and walked out on him! If anybody wants to wear the red hat they should firstly learn the principle,go to "Agukwu Nri" or any of the "Umunri" towns and we will be more than glad to bestow one on them. My grandfather gave me and my younger brother the "Ozo" title at 18yrs and my greeting name is "Nwadialor" while my kid brother's is "Nwa no na ukpo eze". Do not insult the most holy and sacred "NRI" tradition. Ekeneem unu ncha. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by NRIPRIEST(m): 1:53am On Aug 02, 2012 |
odumchi: OP I strongly disagree with you. All the Igbo elites wear the red hat except for "Ojukwu". Can you explain that ? |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:55am On Aug 02, 2012 |
oturugo: oh ho and who are you to instruct me on my business I AM PAGAN YOU BUFOON! boko haram means nothing to me. i take it upon my duty as the preserver of religion and culture, therefore this tooo is my duty. you can go to boko haram and kiss their backside for all i care.. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by odumchi: 1:57am On Aug 02, 2012 |
NRI PRIEST: Oke-nmanwu Nwadiani Nri ekwusigo ife melu eme! On a serious note.... I agree with what that you said. I would have reacted the same way if I saw a non-ekpe member parading an okpu mboko and an ukara wrapper. The answer to this problem is, as Ezeagu put it, onyenye zawa ava nna ya. 1 Like |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by odumchi: 2:07am On Aug 02, 2012 |
NRI PRIEST: In Abia and southern Ebonyi, the red hat is not regarded highly. Today, what little significance it may hold (if at all any) was spread by "Igbo consciousness": as things like Isi agu spread throughout Igboland, so did the red cap. However, I must say that people don't usually wear red caps in my side of Igboland. Politicians wear okpu mboko (if they're ekpe members) or okpu agu. My own father, who used to be involved in Abia politics always wore his okpu mboko; I have never seen him wear a red cap. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by odumchi: 2:11am On Aug 02, 2012 |
This is how people dress in Eastern Igboland. Notice how these boys are either wearing okpu agu or okpu mboko. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdiTZf4wTbk&feature=youtube_gdata_player https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ukeYcIEaY&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by ChinenyeN(m): 2:14am On Aug 02, 2012 |
Any attempt, made by anyone, to trample upon, or otherwise devalue and bastardize, a people's esteemed cultural heritage, is a categorical insult to the legitimacy of their cultural identity. And insults to cultural identity are often times taken very seriously. So I can understand Anambra people's (and quite frankly, any people's) standoffish disposition, when explicit attempts are made by outsiders to compromise esteemed cultural heritage and identity. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by NRIPRIEST(m): 2:20am On Aug 02, 2012 |
Andre Uweh: There are other colours e.g the one in photograph below. But the red hat is now an Igbo symbolism. It was meant for titled men but the Igbo society has now adopted it as gen Igbo attire not just meant for Ndi chiri echichi. Andre nwanne, the "okpu nmee" wasnt originally made to include "titled me" but dtrictly for "ndi nze na ozo" and "ndi eze" and I think thats where you are getting it all wrong. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by NRIPRIEST(m): 2:21am On Aug 02, 2012 |
ChinenyeN: Any attempt, made by anyone, to trample upon, or otherwise devalue and bastardize, a people's esteemed cultural heritage, is a categorical insult to the legitimacy of their cultural identity. And insults to cultural identity are often times taken very seriously. We have heard you. Now,you can move on. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by ChinenyeN(m): 2:24am On Aug 02, 2012 |
NRI PRIEST: We have heard you. Now,you can move on.My friend, don't start with me. I am actually supporting you. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by mimifonwon(f): 2:32am On Aug 02, 2012 |
odumchi: This is how people dress in Eastern Igboland. Notice how these boys are either wearing okpu agu or okpu mboko. see these are the standard hats for non titled igbo men, the regular igbo hats... so if any igbo young mant wants to rock this as they put it...fine, but to wear you also have to be initiated into some kind of mmuo society. you know those that dresss like ekpoo... |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by Obiagu1(m): 5:01am On Aug 02, 2012 |
If you no dey fear, make you wear red cap enter your village, na that time you go know say our tradition is still intact. I pity kids of this generation |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by Antivirus92(m): 7:45am On Aug 02, 2012 |
The best thing is let abia,enugu,imo,ebonyi,rivers find their own traditional wears and leave red cap and efe isi agu for the anambra folks. I will be happy also if those people mentioned above choose different ethnicities according to their sta te, eg abia tribe,ebonyi tribe etc. Let's bury the word 'IGBO' if no one could agree to what the other says.IGBO UNITY MY FOOT. I am an anambra and not igbo. I hate imo and abia people with passion |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by odumchi: 7:52am On Aug 02, 2012 |
Antivirus92: The best thing is let abia,enugu,imo,ebonyi,rivers find their own traditional wears and leave red cap and efe isi agu for the anambra folks. I will be happy also if those people mentioned above choose different ethnicities according to their sta te, eg abia tribe,ebonyi tribe etc. Let's bury the word 'IGBO' if no one could agree to what the other says.IGBO UNITY MY FOOT. I am an anambra and not igbo. I hate imo and abia people with passion Ibini Ukpabi! Ihe n'eme! I must surely report you to your town's Igwe. People like you are a threat to safety and order in ali Igbo. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by ChinenyeN(m): 7:53am On Aug 02, 2012 |
Antivirus92: The best thing is let abia,enugu,imo,ebonyi,rivers find their own traditional wears and leave red cap and efe isi agu for the anambra folks. I will be happy also if those people mentioned above choose different ethnicities according to their sta te, eg abia tribe,ebonyi tribe etc. Let's bury the word 'IGBO' if no one could agree to what the other says.IGBO UNITY MY FOOT. I am an anambra and not igbo. I hate imo and abia people with passionerne o gharala gh final? [size=3pt]kee nbaa ochi [/size] |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by Antivirus92(m): 3:50pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
ChinenyeN:remove the unecessary consonants in ur writtings |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by Antivirus92(m): 3:53pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
odumchi:inferiority complex is common among imo and abia folks. Always thinking that anambra is about to dominate them every time. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by ChinenyeN(m): 3:55pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
They aren't unnecessary. So, I won't remove them. If you like, remove them in your mind. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by orufe: 4:57pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
Antivirus92: The best thing is let abia,enugu,imo,ebonyi,rivers find their own traditional wears and leave red cap and efe isi agu for the anambra folks. I will be happy also if those people mentioned above choose different ethnicities according to their sta te, eg abia tribe,ebonyi tribe etc. Let's bury the word 'IGBO' if no one could agree to what the other says.IGBO UNITY MY FOOT. I am an anambra and not igbo. I hate imo and abia people with passionAntivirus, I have read your post three times today and can't believe you wrote above. Did someone hack your password?. Even that girl known as Chinenye can not directly proclaim the above. Please stop it my hero. |
Re: Disrespect Of The Red Cap And Igbo Traditions:i Blame Your Parents!! by ChinenyeN(m): 5:09pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
This is what happens to his mind when he can't take discussing with Odumchi and I. One only wonders what will happen when he actually gets serious and starts trying to harass and insult others of various Igbo groups about their origin and cultural identity. Kee nbaa ochi yee |
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