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If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Joagbaje(m): 5:48am On Aug 31, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXM960QtnXQ

INSTANT CANCER HEALED !!!! Atheist should see this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX43lBn3dEA
INSTANT CHILD BIRTH !!! Dead baby came alive
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Tundeiab(m): 6:33am On Aug 31, 2012
I have never for once doubted the existence of God. Some senseless individuals will say, this is fake. I believe the man of God, prophet TB Joshua, is a prophet sent in this last day. Ride on prophet.
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by schorlbone(m): 6:53am On Aug 31, 2012
Caveat emptor, scammer watch grin

You're on ur own bro....
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Image123(m): 8:56am On Aug 31, 2012
satan is a miracle working god too.
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Joagbaje(m): 9:15am On Aug 31, 2012
Image123: satan is a miracle working god too.

At least we agree it's a miracle , not a trick. The question now is by what power?

Mark 9:39-40
But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Jenwitemi(m): 9:31am On Aug 31, 2012
The "miracle" is the trick.
Joagbaje:

At least we agree it's a miracle , not a trick. The question now is by what power?

Mark 9:39-40
But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Joagbaje(m): 9:41am On Aug 31, 2012
Jenwitemi: The "miracle" is the trick.

If you call something a trick, it means youve discovered its secret , so Explain the trick

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 12:47pm On Aug 31, 2012
For some reason, these pastors only heal people who come to their church. There are orphanages and schools for the deaf. If they can heal those who come to their churches, then surely either them or their Gods should be able to heal all the students in the schools for the deaf. Why don't they go and heal those in the schools? Are they afraid? Or is God afraid?

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Image123(m): 2:36pm On Aug 31, 2012
Joagbaje:

At least we agree it's a miracle , not a trick. The question now is by what power?

Mark 9:39-40
But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Joagbaje(m): 7:41am On Mar 23, 2016
thehomer:
For some reason, these pastors only heal people who come to their church. There are orphanages and schools for the deaf. If they can heal those who come to their churches, then surely either them or their Gods should be able to heal all the students in the schools for the deaf. Why don't they go and heal those in the schools? Are they afraid? Or is God afraid?

Why didn't Jesus go to hospital ? The principle is , if you have faith you will come .

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 12:35pm On Mar 27, 2016
Joagbaje:


Why didn't Jesus go to hospital ? The principle is , if you have faith you will come .

Maybe because they didn't have hospitals back then. He healed lepers and those that came to the temple for healing. He healed people he met on the streets. Now, we know where these helpless people are. Let the best pastors go out and empty the schools for the disabled. Then they'll have my ear.

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Joagbaje(m): 3:09pm On Apr 23, 2016
thehomer:


Maybe because they didn't have hospitals back then. He healed lepers and those that came to the temple for healing. He healed people he met on the streets. Now, we know where these helpless people are. Let the best pastors go out and empty the schools for the disabled. Then they'll have my ear.

But how

Luke 8:43
As they went a woman who wanted to be healed came up behind and touched him, for she had been slowly bleeding for twelve years, and could find no cure though she had spent everything she had on doctors. But the instant she touched the edge of his robe, the bleeding stopped.


Where did she find the doctors?
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Amberon11: 5:19pm On Apr 23, 2016
Are you ok?

Do you go about entertaining people you see on the streets? don't you only entertain them when they come to your house?

Did you not see his Mexican crude and the hundreds of people that were healed? was that his church?

Did Jesus go about schools and orphanages healing people? Didn't he only heal those who came to him?

why can't you make intellectual points?
thehomer:
For some reason, these pastors only heal people who come to their church. There are orphanages and schools for the deaf. If they can heal those who come to their churches, then surely either them or their Gods should be able to heal all the students in the schools for the deaf. Why don't they go and heal those in the schools? Are they afraid? Or is God afraid?

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 6:00pm On Apr 23, 2016
Joagbaje:


But how

Luke 8:43
As they went a woman who wanted to be healed came up behind and touched him, for she had been slowly bleeding for twelve years, and could find no cure though she had spent everything she had on doctors. But the instant she touched the edge of his robe, the bleeding stopped.


Where did she find the doctors?

What sort of medicine was there back then?

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 6:04pm On Apr 23, 2016
Amberon11:
Are you ok?

Do you go about entertaining people you see on the streets? don't you only entertain them when they come to your house?

Did you not see his Mexican crude and the hundreds of people that were healed? was that his church?

Did Jesus go about schools and orphanages healing people? Didn't he only heal those who came to him?

why can't you make intellectual points?

My points are intellectual. Why don't pastors heal children in orphanages? So you expect deaf, dumb and blind children to troop from church to church when pastors ride around in convoys but don't know the way to orphanage?

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Amberon11: 7:45pm On Apr 23, 2016
they are far from being intellectual. How did the sick people locate Jesus in the bible. Didn't the lame man's friends take him (the lame man) to see Jesus?

didn't sick and blind people follow Jesus crying out to them for help as he walked past crowds?

Oh and won't you also rebuke him asking why he didn't go to all the hospitals even if he did go to some?

Do you also prophet TB Joshua during the early days of his ministry used to go hospitals healing people? do you know that he spent his Saturdays visiting orphanage children and widows and giving them money and gifts? (The late MKO Abiola's adviser confirmed this).

Didn't you also read on NL some months back when a pastor healed a mad man (who many knew was mad and had been roaming the streets for years) in broad daylight?

Some NL users even confirmed that the knew the mad man and his family.

So my question is what do you people want with Christianity?
thehomer:


My points are intellectual. Why don't pastors heal children in orphanages? So you expect deaf, dumb and blind children to troop from church to church when pastors ride around in convoys but don't know the way to orphanage?
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 6:32pm On Apr 27, 2016
Amberon11:
they are far from being intellectual. How did the sick people locate Jesus in the bible. Didn't the lame man's friends take him (the lame man) to see Jesus?

didn't sick and blind people follow Jesus crying out to them for help as he walked past crowds?

Oh and won't you also rebuke him asking why he didn't go to all the hospitals even if he did go to some?

Do you also prophet TB Joshua during the early days of his ministry used to go hospitals healing people? do you know that he spent his Saturdays visiting orphanage children and widows and giving them money and gifts? (The late MKO Abiola's adviser confirmed this).

Didn't you also read on NL some months back when a pastor healed a mad man (who many knew was mad and had been roaming the streets for years) in broad daylight?

Some NL users even confirmed that the knew the mad man and his family.

So my question is what do you people want with Christianity?

I don't know how they located him but how many hospitals do you know about in Judea?

TB Joshua is just fraudster. Now he has multiple cars and convoys, he still cannot go around healing them two or three days a week?

Giving me a story about an anonymous person healed isn't good enough.

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Amberon: 4:04am On Apr 28, 2016
TB Joshua has no vehicles of his own, he mostly uses the church buses and has no convoy. TB Joshua heals people who go to his church asking for miracles and he does so every Sunday up till 2:am in the morning. Benite|| can confirm this so say what you know.

You want famous people yh? did you know he healed the veteran actor Enebeli Enebuwa of parapalysis so many years ago? the video is there for your viewing pleasure. He healed a Malawian minister (don't know her name but Google is your friend). everybody knows African leaders are too rich and cannot be bribed. He delivered a famous SA international opera singer named Kimmy Skota. Didn't he also deliver Jim Iyke? and you said he was acting? He also healed westerhof and the video is there too along with many others.

you are not a smart person and henceforth I desist from further responding.
thehomer:


I don't know how they located him but how many hospitals do you know about in Judea?

TB Joshua is just fraudster. Now he has multiple cars and convoys, he still cannot go around healing them two or three days a week?

Giving me a story about an anonymous person healed isn't good enough.

Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Joagbaje(m): 7:43am On Apr 28, 2016
thehomer:


What sort of medicine was there back then?

That's not the point . Maybe I'm not getting you.
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Joagbaje(m): 7:50am On Apr 28, 2016
thehomer:

My points are intellectual. Why don't pastors heal children in orphanages? So you expect deaf, dumb and blind children to troop from church to church when pastors ride around in convoys but don't know the way to orphanage?

That's why I asked , did Jesus go to such places to heal? He healed those who came to him. Why didn't he raise all he dead in the grave yard ?

The point is Ministers are not called that way, the were primarily called to preach and lead people to God. Miracles are only signs yo draw people to the existence ,reality and power of God . And the faith of the people are also required to receive a miracle most of the time . So the principle is If you believe in the man of God you will come.
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 7:09am On May 02, 2016
Amberon:
TB Joshua has no vehicles of his own, he mostly uses the church buses and has no convoy. TB Joshua heals people who go to his church asking for miracles and he does so every Sunday up till 2:am in the morning. Benite|| can confirm this so say what you know.

He owns the church. Sure he heals people yet hospitals around his church haven't run out of patients, orphanages still have disabled children.

Amberon:

You want famous people yh? did you know he healed the veteran actor Enebeli Enebuwa of parapalysis so many years ago? the video is there for your viewing pleasure. He healed a Malawian minister (don't know her name but Google is your friend). everybody knows African leaders are too rich and cannot be bribed. He delivered a famous SA international opera singer named Kimmy Skota. Didn't he also deliver Jim Iyke? and you said he was acting? He also healed westerhof and the video is there too along with many others.

I don't want famous people, I just want people who have actually been professionally diagnosed of medical ailments. Didn't Enebeli die of a stroke? There are still hospitals and orphanages in Lagos with actually ill people. Talking about deliverance from imaginary illnesses isn't impressive.

Amberon:

you are not a smart person and henceforth I desist from further responding.

You are actually an unintelligent person. You should stop exposing your stupidity.

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 7:10am On May 02, 2016
Joagbaje:


That's not the point . Maybe I'm not getting you.

What don't you get?
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 7:15am On May 02, 2016
Joagbaje:


That's why I asked , did Jesus go to such places to heal? He healed those who came to him. Why didn't he raise all he dead in the grave yard ?

I don't know, maybe it was all lies.

Joagbaje:

The point is Ministers are not called that way, the were primarily called to preach and lead people to God. Miracles are only signs yo draw people to the existence ,reality and power of God . And the faith of the people are also required to receive a miracle most of the time . So the principle is If you believe in the man of God you will come.



Why can't God directly reveal himself to each person rather than going through another intermediary knowing that all these intermediaries are also flawed? Why does he need faith to work? Paracetamol and penicillin don't need faith to work. Is your God weaker than both of them?
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Amberon11: 5:18am On Jul 16, 2016
You are dumb.
Get well soon.
thehomer:


He owns the church. Sure he heals people yet hospitals around his church haven't run out of patients, orphanages still have disabled children.



I don't want famous people, I just want people who have actually been professionally diagnosed of medical ailments. Didn't Enebeli die of a stroke? There are still hospitals and orphanages in Lagos with actually ill people. Talking about deliverance from imaginary illnesses isn't impressive.



You are actually an unintelligent person. You should stop exposing your stupidity.
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by KingEbukaNaija: 9:49am On Jul 16, 2016
thehomer:


My points are intellectual. Why don't pastors heal children in orphanages? So you expect deaf, dumb and blind children to troop from church to church when pastors ride around in convoys but don't know the way to orphanage?

Lmao ... oh boy o' boy ! You were told you don't make intellectual points and I thought I was the only one that made that observation . Discussing evolution is your forte , please just stick to that . grin

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Amberon11: 12:44pm On Jul 16, 2016
Joagbaje
Joagbaje

Post the link again. This one is no longer available.
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 1:02am On Jul 18, 2016
Amberon11:
You are dumb.
Get well soon.

And you're foolish.

Get stuffed.
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 1:04am On Jul 18, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Lmao ... oh boy o' boy ! You were told you don't make intellectual points and I thought I was the only one that made that observation . Discussing evolution is your forte , please just stick to that . grin

What was anti-intellectual about what I said? I know you find it difficult recognizing intellectual issues even when they smack you in the face but don't attribute your ignorance to me.
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by KingEbukaNaija: 1:55am On Jul 18, 2016
thehomer:


What was anti-intellectual about what I said? I know you find it difficult recognizing intellectual issues even when they smack you in the face but don't attribute your ignorance to me.

No one tells me that but many people have impugned your intelligence because of the ignorant posts you make . I think you should pay attention to them grin

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Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by thehomer: 6:39pm On Jul 18, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


No one tells me that but many people have impugned your intelligence because of the ignorant posts you make . I think you should pay attention to them grin

I know you guys have bad to no arguments and I can see that you're getting desperate. I will humour you. Which posts bother you so much? And why do they have this effect of making you lose your mind?
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Nobody: 7:12pm On Jul 18, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Lmao ... oh boy o' boy ! You were told you don't make intellectual points and I thought I was the only one that made that observation . Discussing evolution is your forte , please just stick to that . grin


I dey feel you jare bros. I wonder who talks about evolution seeing the theory is outdated. Yeah, it's only nairaland atheists that would base their points on our so-called "gorilla parents"
Re: If You Doubt The Existence Of God, What Do You Say About This by Joagbaje(m): 7:51pm On Jul 18, 2016
Amberon11:
Joagbaje
Joagbaje

Post the link again. This one is no longer available.
it's been addressed

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