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Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by usisky(m): 10:14pm On Sep 25, 2012
ositadima1: @Dondbuzor dats dat is true, but are u fully into these projects, or part time? Is there a thriving market for this kind of projects in nija? Where i stay they have this motor dat pumps water into a tank, the wahala is dat u have to switch it on manually when ever there is light, and of when it feels up, a controller can automate this chore


There are different ways to solve this problem. One way is to use magnetic reed-switches(sensor) arranged vertically across the height of the Tank at various points. A magnet strapped to a floating mechanism aligned close to the reed-switches will indicate current position along the Tank height as it gets filled. Every time the magnet passes along any of the reed-switch point, the reed-switch closes; this is now detected by your micro-controller and action taken accordingly. There are other ways as well:

1)Using a floating mechanism
2)Using a Liquid sensor
3) e.t.c


But all these are intrusive(require contact with medium). Here,i will give you a professional way to implement it. This uses ultrasonic ranging technique. With this scheme, you don't only detect the water level, You can as well tell precisely how fast the water is being pumped and also the exact water height from the base of the Tank. Ultrasonic sensors are positioned at the top of the tank; You use ultrasonic ranging to determine all necessary information. Things you need to know:

1)The Thank Height
1)The Point were the ultrasonic sensor are positioned at the top of the tank

Using simple math, you can get the actual water level,with the Tanks' base as the reference point of measurement.
Normally, you'll need two sensors(Receiver and Transmitter). But there are bi-directional ultrasonic sensors, and this will be best for this design.

As for determining the rate at which the water is being pumped; this is fairly intricate...you'll need to understand how to use ultrasonics in doppler shift velocity estimation. Google is your friend; use it! Detecting presence/absence
of PHCN i would assume is fairly straightforward. Just me 2-Cents!! wink

Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by Dondbuzor: 3:45pm On Sep 26, 2012
Y should I put myself into all these stress using ultrasonic sensor and its calculation while I can easily get d water sensor from the market.
May be wen we start talking about d speed of water flow, then that one can make sense.


Also, I remember, one of my friend is doing a school project that involves checking the speed of liquid flow in order to determine the amount of crude extracted from a well. Maybe with this sensor that that can measure speed of liquid flow as well, then d job is good as done!


usisky:


There are different ways to solve this problem. One way is to use magnetic reed-switches(sensor) arranged vertically across the height of the Tank at various points. A magnet strapped to a floating mechanism aligned close to the reed-switches will indicate current position along the Tank height as it gets filled. Every time the magnet passes along any of the reed-switch point, the reed-switch closes; this is now detected by your micro-controller and action taken accordingly. There are other ways as well:

1)Using a floating mechanism
2)Using a Liquid sensor
3) e.t.c


But all these are intrusive(require contact with medium). Here,i will give you a professional way to implement it. This uses ultrasonic ranging technique. With this scheme, you don't only detect the water level, You can as well tell precisely how fast the water is being pumped and also the exact water height from the base of the Tank. Ultrasonic sensors are positioned at the top of the tank; You use ultrasonic ranging to determine all necessary information. Things you need to know:

1)The Thank Height
1)The Point were the ultrasonic sensor are positioned at the top of the tank

Using simple math, you can get the actual water level,with the Tanks' base as the reference point of measurement.
Normally, you'll need two sensors(Receiver and Transmitter). But there are bi-directional ultrasonic sensors, and this will be best for this design.

As for determining the rate at which the water is being pumped; this is fairly intricate...you'll need to understand how to use ultrasonics in doppler shift velocity estimation. Google is your friend; use it! Detecting presence/absence
of PHCN i would assume is fairly straightforward. Just me 2-Cents!! wink

Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by usisky(m): 4:17pm On Sep 27, 2012
^^^Well because with ultrasonics, u can measure d exact water level in d tank; i mean down to a few centimeters and with as low as 3% deviation. On d other hand, liquid sensor will only provide u with d relative water level in d tank. It all depends on what ur application demands anyway. If all u need is to detect if tank is filled; then a simple liquid sensor suffices. But if d actual level of fluid in d tank is indeed wat needs to be known, then, i am afraid u cannot escape d use of specialized schemes as ultrasonics ranging.
Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by usisky(m): 4:24pm On Sep 27, 2012
PS: what your friend needs is a flow rate sensor. There are some ultrasonic flow rate sensors too. Google is ur best friend; use it.
Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by Dondbuzor: 7:43pm On Sep 27, 2012
Like how much did u think the sensor will cost cos a dealer is telling him 80k

usisky: PS: what your friend needs is a flow rate sensor. There are some ultrasonic flow rate sensors too. Google is ur best friend; use it.
Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by usisky(m): 3:37pm On Sep 28, 2012
^^^Hello there mate! 80K? That's way too much man! Try googling the following: FTB2000 series flow sensor. It's $80 or there about. Although,there are complete flow rate modules that takes care of the gritties for you; but these are kinda expensive. I think the sensor above is quite ok....at least from the datasheet.
Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by schoolboi: 5:52pm On Sep 28, 2012
I would love 2 know more about this embedded system in terms of pratical.
Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by Dondbuzor: 6:34pm On Sep 28, 2012
May be dis software ll help!
Proteus 7.0
Try and see if u can get d cracked version. U can start from there!
That's how I started, cheers

schoolboi: I would love 2 know more about this embedded system in terms of pratical.
Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by Journey1: 6:18pm On Jan 06, 2013
Usis do you have hands on experience with ultrasonic sensors. Please reply as soon as you can.
Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by hopefullman: 5:14am On Mar 10, 2013
Dondbuzor: May be dis software ll help!
Proteus 7.0
Try and see if u can get d cracked version. U can start from there!
That's how I started, cheers

where can i get crakd proteus
Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by hopefullman: 11:40am On Mar 30, 2013
I compild ds code and mplab told me build suced bt didnt display d hex file.hw wl i get d hex file.thanks. LIST P=16F84
#include <p16f84.inc>
__config_RC_OSC &_WDT_OFF &_PWRTE_ON
org 0000h
movlw b'00000'
movwf TrisA
bcf Status,5
begin movlw b'11111'
movwf PortA
movlw b'00000'
movwf portA
goto begin
end
Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by holajeedayy: 2:00am On Aug 14, 2014
pls I need an answer from gurus which 1 is lucrative BTW embedded system n programing
Re: Let's Discuss Embedded System by Queed: 4:13pm On Jan 17, 2022
Dondbuzor:
Pls I need an answer. Embedded systems and programming which one has more opportunities(profitability) in nigeria.
With reasons plz

Hello buzzor hope you're doing fine.
I am at this stage currently and it's pretty much overwhelming cry
I am very good at embedded systems and complex electronics (both theoretical and practical) and I have done a number of interesting projects too.
Just that there aren't much opportunities for embedded engineers in Nigeria which is really discouraging. Most people I know that are into web/ app design are doing quite well, and I having this urge to switch to web.

Please I beg to ask, which option did you choose and did it favour you?
Or you could just give me an advise embarassed

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