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by Nobody: 7:59am On Sep 23, 2012
Re: by Nobody: 8:09am On Sep 23, 2012
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Re: by somebody(f): 1:41am On Sep 24, 2012
Well, I hope the aviation minister is taking note of such issues so she doesn't hastily compare air expenses from Ghana with Nigeria AGAIN. It is clearly very expensive for airlines to operate in Nigeria. Our local airlines are already crumbling under the weight of the inefficiencies in the aviation sector.

I don't think this is BA's fault so they shouldn't be asked to leave. Afterall, BA is the only airline you can consistently rely on to take you to Nigeria with no stopovers, long stories about no fuel etc. As an employer, BA has a responsibility to the cabin and crew it takes to Nigeria. If our inefficiencies as a country makes their landing time inconvenient for us as Nigerians then we should be speaking to the Government not BA.

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Re: by kayswag100(m): 12:55pm On Sep 24, 2012
r u saying JUST crew members of american flight companies or ALL foreign flight companies?

Just 2 day, on my way 2 work, still saw LUFTHANSA's crew members shutting deir regular airport rd route close 2 LUGBE...

Just that d security guys with dem was like dat of Governors or ministers!
Re: by Opoki(m): 1:12pm On Sep 24, 2012
We will set up a committee to look into it.

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Re: by VolvoS60(m): 1:18pm On Sep 24, 2012
The reference in the report to US independence day holidays on July 4th is puzzling. We are in September and it will be October in about a week's time. I don't know if I am missing something here?
Re: by question(m): 1:27pm On Sep 24, 2012
Opoki: We will set up a committee to look into it.
A high-powered committee.
Re: by Nobody: 1:28pm On Sep 24, 2012
It's obvious Nairaland doesn't have news to report, hence the Ned to dig up old news of July for us. I was going to even say that Naijapals seems to be more up to date and up to speed than nairaland...

And what's this nonsense of banning peeps for airing their views? That's what you get for making almost everyone a moderator grin
Re: by Venchy: 2:12pm On Sep 24, 2012
chaircover: London to Abuja flights now land at 04:35am. This to me must make life rather difficult for the passengers. What about noise nuisance for people that live under the flight path that early in the morning when the planes land; I doubt that BA will be allowed to fly into heathrow that early and I am also surprised that there has been no reaction over this.

I also understand that many times, the flight from Abuja to London is late because the plane has to arrive empty from Lagos first before picking up Abuja passengers.

First of all I'll like to ask you a question, do you travel at all and if you do, how many times do you ever experience this type of SECURITY PROBLEM?

Allowing flight to land at the wrong time of the night is entirely the FOOLISH decisions taken by the NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT without the thought of the Nigerian citizens or residence around the Airport.

It's a situation of HOW YOU LAY YOUR BED SO YOU SHALL SLEEP ON IT, it's always sad to hear all this type of things....

Looking at the situation on ground, there's what they called SAFETY which NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT have no idea and this come first.....This Airline are not the likes of ARIK , AIR NIGERIA OR BELLVIEW..this are world class airline that have reputation and the lives of their passengers and crew members are at the top of their priority not just MONEY MONEY MONEY.

Remember SAFETY FIRST.

What are your thoughts on this? Should BA be told to leave and come back when they feel comfortable with security, or should they be allowed to operate like this?
Re: by Venchy: 2:20pm On Sep 24, 2012
chaircover: London to Abuja flights now land at 04:35am. This to me must make life rather difficult for the passengers. What about noise nuisance for people that live under the flight path that early in the morning when the planes land; I doubt that BA will be allowed to fly into heathrow that early and I am also surprised that there has been no reaction over this.

I also understand that many times, the flight from Abuja to London is late because the plane has to arrive empty from Lagos first before picking up Abuja passengers.

What are your thoughts on this? Should BA be told to leave and come back when they feel comfortable with security, or should they be allowed to operate like this?


First of all I'll like to ask you a question, do you travel at all and if you do, how many times do you ever experience this type of SECURITY PROBLEMS.

Allowing flight to land at the wrong time of the night is entirely the FOOLISH decisions taken by the NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT without the thought of the Nigerian citizens or residence around the
airport.

It's a situation of HOW YOU LAY YOUR BED SO YOU SHALL SLEEP ON IT, it's always sad to hear all this type of things....Looking at the situation on ground, there's what they called SAFETY which NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT have no idea and this come first

This Airline are not the likes of ARIK , AIR NIGERIA OR BELLVIEW..this are world class airline that have reputation and the lives of their passengers and crew members are at the top of their priority not just MONEY MONEY MONEY.

Remember SAFETY COMES FIRST.

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Re: by Nobody: 2:45pm On Sep 24, 2012
HOW MANY FLIGHTS LAND IN ABUJA AT NITE. IT CANT BE MORE THAN 3 A DAY. SO THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE AREA WHO WAKE UP FROM THE NOISE SHOULD JUST PRETEND THAT A MOSQUITO BIT THEM AND THEY ARE SCRATCHING IT.

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Re: by Okijajuju1(m): 5:19pm On Sep 24, 2012
chaircover: London to Abuja flights now land at 04:35am. This to me must make life rather difficult for the passengers. What about noise nuisance for people that live under the flight path that early in the morning when the planes land; I doubt that BA will be allowed to fly into heathrow that early and I am also surprised that there has been no reaction over this.

I also understand that many times, the flight from Abuja to London is late because the plane has to arrive empty from Lagos first before picking up Abuja passengers.

What are your thoughts on this? Should BA be told to leave and come back when they feel comfortable with security, or should they be allowed to operate like this?


BUSY AIRPORTS LIKE JFK, PEARSON, HEATHROW, CHARLES DE GAULLE and co.. flights land every hour, 24/7, 365..


Below is the latest arrival/departure time of certain international flights into JFK International Airport.. If you go live near airport, then dont complain about noise..

Re: by PetroDolla: 9:55pm On Sep 24, 2012
chaircover: THE nation’s security challenge is taking its toll on the aviation sector as foreign airlines’ crew no longer night-stop in Abuja after operating to the area. They now pass the night in Lagos or in Accra.

This development is emerging amid a warning by the United States (U.S) embassy in Nigeria to its citizens of threats to American targets following renewed threats by Boko Haram to step up attacks this month in Abuja.

Before now, all foreign airlines crew operating to Abuja were accommodated in four- or five-star hotels but the deteriorating security situation in the country, especially in the North informed their decision to land their aircraft in Abuja, disembark passengers, while the crew depart for Lagos or Accra, Ghana.

A top official of one of the European carriers told The Guardian yesterday under a strict condition of anonymity that the situation was causing a lot of problems for the carrier, just as he noted that it had also affected their schedules.

Apart from aviation that is suffering as a result of the situation, tourism is also losing as most of the hotels and tourism sites are recording low patronage.

Cumulatively, the sectors are losing several millions of dollars, as the security situation is yet to abate.

There are indications that one of the United States carriers designated to Abuja is putting finishing touches to stopping its operations to the area because of security reasons and low traffic on the route. The carrier said it would consolidate on its U.S-Lagos route where it is doing well.

Many of the carriers have already entered into agreement with some Nigerian airlines to help them airlift their crew whenever they arrive.

Already, Air France has a deal with Aero, but the airline is not pleased with delays that have become the norm in domestic air travel. The delays have made nonsense of their schedule out of Abuja, as the crew do not get to arrive to take charge of their aircraft for early departure.

Apart from the delay encountered before they get to Abuja to operate their flight, the airlines also miss out in connecting their passengers to other destinations from their hubs.

To avoid the situation, the crew disembark their passengers in Abuja, Kano, fly the aircraft to Lagos where a new set of crew take control of the airplane, fly it back to Abuja, pick passengers and depart to their destinations.

Already, the airlines are counting their cost, as they have had to spend more on fuel, risk having to shuttle between Lagos, Accra and Abuja.

The situation would also make them to pay double charges for landing and parking in Lagos, Abuja and more in Accra because it is seen as an international flight.

Speaking to The Guardian on the issue, President, Aviation Round Table (ART), Captain Dele Ore said airline crew love where they can have freedom to shop, walk freely without obstruction.

According to Ore, when these things are lacking as a result of threat to security, it would be practically impossible for them to night-sleep in troubled areas.

The airline captain stated that their various high commissions or embassies could also have warned them of staying in a volatile area, adding that it was really an insult to the country.

“This is a big slap on the face of the government. You can’t blame these people if they have elected to protect their people. This has definitely defeated the idea of making Lagos or Abuja aviation hub in Nigeria,” he said.

An airline hub is an airport that an airline uses as a transfer point to get passengers to their intended destination. It is part of a hub and spoke model, where travellers moving between airports not served by direct flights change planes en route to their destinations.

Many hubs of the airlines are also situated at airports in the cities of the respective head offices. Some airlines may use only a single hub, while other airlines use multiple hubs. Hubs are used for both passenger flights as well as cargo flights.

Kotoka International Airport, Accra, Ghana, has become the regional international airport where long-distance flights are available to the rest of the world, far more in number than Lagos.

The Assistant Secretary General of Airline Operators of Nigeria (AON), Mohammed Tukur urged government to find a way of nipping in the bud the security problem, adding that as a result, airlines were involved in extra expenditure.

The statement by the U.S. embassy posted on its website said the American government was working with Nigeria’s security to boost security measures through the U.S. independence holiday which is observed every July 4.

“The U.S. Mission in Nigeria is issuing this emergency message to inform U.S. citizens of potential threats against U.S. installations during the July 4 holiday week,” said the statement.

Abuja was hit by fresh violence late on Tuesday, when a blast went off outside a shopping centre popular with both foreigners and locals.

American citizens in Abuja remain barred from visiting places of worship as well as nearby commercial establishments and must return to their homes by midnight, according to the embassy’s statement.

It added: “The embassy is working with the government of Nigeria to implement additional security measures, through the July 4 holiday week”.

Last month, Washington designated three Boko Haram leaders as global terrorists, a move it said was aimed at helping to stem the violence in Nigeria.

On Monday, during her first visit to the country since taking office, the International Criminal Court’s new chief prosecutor, Fatou Bensouda, urged the Nigerian authorities to investigate crimes claimed by Boko Haram.

Bensouda said she briefed President Goodluck Jonathan on the ICC’s preliminary examination of the Boko Haram insurgency, but stressed that the court was not formally investigating the violence in northern Nigeria.

“Crimes are taking place,” the Gambian-born prosecutor said.

She continued: “These crimes may be called terrorist attacks but they could also qualify as crimes against humanity. Provided Nigeria takes action through its own judicial system, the ICC does not plan to intervene.

“The intention is not to intervene, but the intention is to ensure that Nigeria has the primary responsibility of investigating.”

Boko Haram has claimed attacks that have killed more than 1,000 people since mid-2009 and the violence has escalated in recent months.

Following the group’s deadliest-ever attack in which at least 185 people were killed in the city of Kano on January 20, Jonathan encouraged Boko Haram to enter into negotiations.

But Jonathan told the ICC prosecutor that his government would not encourage impunity for major crimes, according to a presidency statement.

Bensouda became the ICC’s chief prosecutor on June 15, replacing Luis Moreno-Ocampo, an Argentine, who was repeatedly criticised by some African leaders for what they termed the court’s excessive focus on African conflicts.


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=91371:airlines-stop-crews-stay-in-abuja-over-insecurity-&catid=1:national&Itemid=559
Re: by oladayo042: 10:14pm On Sep 24, 2012
^^^ You can simply quote only the bolded part. And you even said nothing. SMH
Re: by banki(m): 8:46am On Sep 25, 2012
what hurts me is that our government just go around running around in cirlces and people keep paying lip service.... ruben abati says that the presidents frequent journeys abroad is bring about a lot of FDI to the country ... yet the same firms are running to ghana even those that are coming are charging us 5 times the amount to execute projects because of the instability and the fact that the cost of doing business in Nigeria has doubled....

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