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Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Ikengawo: 9:24pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Im against it. someone put me down as against it. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Nobody: 9:55pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
I wil be a clapping spectator on this one |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Obinoscopy(m): 9:39am On Oct 18, 2012 |
HNosegbe: I'd really like to read arguments against an SNC. Tick tock... Patience my dear, patience |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by gidiMonsta(m): 10:53am On Oct 18, 2012 |
TOPIC FOR OCTOBER I'm confused here If I say It's not a historical mistake, is that FOR or AGAINST? |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Obinoscopy(m): 12:04pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
gidiMonsta: AGAINST |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by otokx(m): 1:28pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
In view of the public holiday can the debate lines be opened early from October 26 1 Like |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Katsumoto: 2:10pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Jarus: OK. We have enough endorsements already. I declare the topic settled. We are debating SNC. Hey Jarus, What happens if the two finalists for the final round have the same position with regards to the final round topic? Using the theme adopted for the debates, it may be unfair to make one of them argue against their positions. Having said that, it is allowed in debate for all sides to argue either for or against a position and a winner is still selected based on the criteria selected for the debate. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Chrisbenogor(m): 2:13pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Katsumoto:How about taking the best "for" to go against the best "against" argument? |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Katsumoto: 2:25pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Chrisbenogor: But they will be debating a different topic in the final. Second, in debate, teams arguing the same position can both be judged winners against teams arguing a different position. Winners are selected based on the criteria and not position taken. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Chrisbenogor(m): 2:37pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Katsumoto:OH! darn your right. Well I am confused a bit, if I were to argue that it was a historical mistake I think I would also tend to argue that the SNC is needed. Its also possible to argue that for in the first and against in the second. Hmmmmmmmmmm |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by cheddarking(m): 10:02am On Oct 19, 2012 |
I'm happy to argue for the Motion. Jarus please let me know any further developments... |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by OAM4J: 5:51pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
Sorry guys been away for a while. Now back. So far... JUDGING CRITERIA: 1, Presentation(opening, flow, closing) - 4 marks 2, Logic of arguments - 4 marks 3, Strength of facts & examples - 4 marks 4, Persuasiveness - 4 marks 5, Demonstration of knowledge/understanding of the subject - 4 marks Total score from a judge = 20, from 5 judges = 100 TOPIC FOR OCTOBER FIRST ROUND - 1914 AMALGAMATION - A HISTORICAL MISTAKE? FINAL ROUND - SOVEREIGN NATIONAL CONFERENCE - ULTIMATE PANACEA TO NIGERIA'S PROBLEMS? DATE: First round: Saturday, October 27, 2012 Final round: Sunday, October 28, 2012 ... more volunteers for the debate please |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Afam4eva(m): 5:53pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
WE're making progress... |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by nduchucks: 7:34pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
OAM4J: Sorry guys been away for a while. Now back. What happened to this earlier decision, particularly the bolded? jarus: |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(m): 7:37pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
ndu_chucks: They will be subsumed into the 5 criteria. . |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by NegroNtns(m): 8:50pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
OAM4J: Sorry guys been away for a while. Now back. OAM, I dont know anybody that will say the 1914 amalgamation is a blessing. So why is it even a topic of debate? It will be nice to have contestans open on that historical note....but anyone presenting it as a blessing is doomed to lose. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by PaulJohn1: 8:52pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
From https://www.nairaland.com/1081002/nairaland-political-debate-oct-2012 Jarus: TOPICS - Mod, at the beginning of this thread you stated that Jarus: But seriously, I don't think you're keeping to your word. The topic of this month which is: The 1914 amalgamation of the northern and southern protectorates - a historical mistake? How on earth do you think this topic won't lead to exchange of words due to "sensitive and emotional" discussion that might arise as the topic role?! At a time that hatred has been heated up just because of a novel written by a prof. Do you want to prove this topic would be debated without the mentioning of the civil war, the starvation and other delicate matters that shouldn't be brought up due to it's sensitivity and sadness it might cause readers. There are millions of topics that can be discussed and would attract great traffic if this is the hidden agender the topic is all about. Topic like this takes hatred and discrimination to a greater height. No one is saying history should be forgotten, but the ones that seems delicate should be avoided |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by OAM4J: 9:04pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
ndu_chucks: It will be very difficult to capture audience votes. The polls are currently not working. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by OAM4J: 9:15pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
Paul John: From While we appreciate your criticisms, what we meant by 'sensitive topics' are topics that put an ethnic group against another and not 'sensitive topics' that affect the whole country. We cannot change our past, but sometimes we need to honestly analyse our past to formulate a good future for ourselves, that is the aim of debating such topic. 2 Likes |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by PaulJohn1: 9:34pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
^^ Wow! Really? OAM4J: And this topic won't? OAM4J: Ofcourse we can't change our past Part in bold; this is not the first time this particular topic has been debated(although not in an organized way that involves you mods) and the end is not worth mentioning, which does not seem to "have formulated a good future" has you've stated. NB: just my thought. Whichever way, it's just an online forum. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(m): 10:30pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
Paul John: ^^Thanks for your thought, but we dont consider that topic sensitive. And if you look at the debaters they are from same part of the country , so this is not an ethnic clash. If the debaters do their homework well, this topic also tends to be very educative. A lot of facts will be dug up and we will all learn or refresh our knowledge. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by SisiKill1: 10:49pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
Only someone who is naturally "sensitive" and sees everything though ethnic colored lenses will find the proposed debate topic....sensitive. The topic requires one to look at historical facts. . .Pre-Amalgamation, reasons for put forth for the amalgamation (were they valid or not) and Post amalgamation - Did it work? If no, give you reasons based on facts, if you think it it did.. . .do the same and if you think it could have worked but certain issues derailed it, lay out your case with supporting evidence. SIMPLE!! We should be able to discuss issues (especially one that deals with OUR HISTORY) without getting all emotionally strung about it, you know. . .After all we are supposed to be ADULTS who ought to know when and where to unleash our emotional outbursts and when to keep a tight rein on it. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by NegroNtns(m): 11:13pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
Sisi, na you i see so. Im delighted to see you on the judges panel. Out of all the judges on that panel you are the only one I can truly say has good head on their shoulder.....the rest are scandalous, but we will manage them. If any debater give you palava let me know dear. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Obinoscopy(m): 11:15pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
Negro_Ntns: Not true. You'll see |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by NegroNtns(m): 11:30pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
Obinoscopy: Im not sure the moderators have a good grip on this project to be honest. On whethet or not amalgamation is a good thing, there is only one way to answer that......it is BAD! There is no division of opinion on that. The reality is self evident. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Obinoscopy(m): 11:43pm On Oct 21, 2012 |
Negro_Ntns: I'm sorry what you're wrong again especially as it concerns the bolded in your quote |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(m): 12:03am On Oct 22, 2012 |
Negro_Ntns: Care to shed more light? |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by NegroNtns(m): 1:31am On Oct 22, 2012 |
Obinoscopy: .....no conscientious Nigerian who means well for the progress and well being of the peoples constituting this citizenship will ever swear on their credibility that the 1914 amalgamation was the right direction to take the Yorubas, the Igbos, the Hausas and every other peoples of this nation. ...for other reasons maybe!!! I want to hear which side of reason you are on. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Gboliwe: 6:21am On Oct 22, 2012 |
Obinscopy is so confident and that is a big plus. An arguement I am so looking forward to. Also, the very random picking of four contestants and all from one part of the country should make this one debate free from bigotry. Saturday it is. |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Nobody: 10:15am On Oct 22, 2012 |
I really will like to see what those arguing in favour of the alamagation have to say. What a wack topic! |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Nobody: 10:18am On Oct 22, 2012 |
Jarus: If you want to have an educational discussion on the Amalgamation then by all means go ahead. But a debate on it's impropriety or not is just plain silly! Ethinicity aside . . . |
Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by semid4lyfe(m): 4:39pm On Oct 22, 2012 |
Lol, this reminds me of that Denzel movie. . .The Great Debaters
I recommend the Nairaland Debaters should see it if they haven't already Looking forward to the debate |
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