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Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by cleric(m): 1:00am On Nov 08, 2012
tpapi: israel dey form like say him fit defeat iran unilaterally,if only US fit just dey neutral,make iran make life tire israel small
Have you done ur research properly? If you've read Israel's feat,u won't write what you wrote. Take a 'Q' from what they did to Libya (unilaterally) yet the so called Arab league could do jack. You know why? Israel fought a militarily bigger arab coalition and won on all fronts(the 6 day war). So brother please.........
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by blkmum700: 1:14am On Nov 08, 2012
ondo_boi: bro, you need to update your knowledge about war. Its isn't about the numbers of soldier paraded anymore, but how sophisticated machinery put in place. BTW, does that mean Nigeria with a population of over 160M will defeat an israeli of just 7M at war?


I will be a fool to think Nigeria can defeat israel at war,because Nigeria doesn't have weapons Israel has,but with same weapons at Nigeria possesion there is know way israel can defeat Nigeria with don't compare china with Nigeria,Number of soldiers and weapons count in war,why do u think North Korea threaten South Korea every time,it's simply because North korea has more combat army and weaspons more than the south korea.China with highest number of soldiers with lot of mordern weapons can't be defeated by america,can deployed 3million soldiers everyday at war with sophisticated weapons.I don't dislike americans or isrealis just saying population play big impact.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Tolaaaaannni(f): 2:07am On Nov 08, 2012
I'm pretty sure netanyahu will be fine, he always is. undecided
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Nobody: 3:43am On Nov 08, 2012
blkmum700:


I will be a fool to think Nigeria can defeat israel at war,because Nigeria doesn't have weapons Israel has,but with same weapons at Nigeria possesion there is know way israel can defeat Nigeria with don't compare china with Nigeria,Number of soldiers and weapons count in war,why do u think North Korea threaten South Korea every time,it's simply because North korea has more combat army and weaspons more than the south korea.China with highest number of soldiers with lot of mordern weapons can't be defeated by america,can deployed 3million soldiers everyday at war with sophisticated weapons.I don't dislike americans or isrealis just saying population play big impact.

Stop being kiddy with wars, are you talking about conventional wars? The likes where the super powers sit and watch while two kids like Nigeria and Cameroon start pulling each other. That's really supervised and under control. We have not had an unconventional war since the Second World War, that is the risk. In a unconventional war, even Gabon can wipe out US with the right tools. Central to this discussion are the issues of nuclear deterrance, advantage of pre-emotive strike, and possible allies retaliation. All ingredients to a Third World War. That's why US will not agree with Israelis pre-emotive strike proposals, even if Romney won. There is no assurance that such a campaign will remain conventional. After all nobody knows for sure what Iran is hiding. On the other hand, Israel is afraid of Iran gaining the advantage of surprise attack too simply because unlike most Nuclear Powers, Ahmedinajad has been making comments that's shows he is more of a religious fanatic than a man with actual brains. He seems stupid enough to embark on a nuclear attack. Any thinking man knows that any unconventional war in today's world will be recounted by the human remnants as the first step in human self annihilation. Why do you think the big wigs never fight themselves but keep fighting proxy wars with third world countries. Secondly why we're India and Pakistan able to join the nuclear powers but not Iran?

Iran having a nuclear weapon is not really impossible. One of the super powers will woo them as allies, so that by expanding her ally base she will increase the deterrence to any one mulling an attack on it. However Iran so far is only interested in playing the game like a novice, focusing merely on Israel rather than the global implication of the activity. Secondly, maybe Obama was just playing politics, when Romney said it, but US major unspoken challenge is the power of a Putin rebuilt Soviet, allied with China. With their economic weight and a failing EU, they can make US look like a kid, they are already making the security council irrelevant.
If Iran continues to makes herself uncontrollable, and really gets close to a nuclear weapon, they will force all the sides to agree to a mutual dismantling of Iran. For now US is trying to stop them, while Russia is trying to control them as part of her arsenal, while Isreal is jittering, cause without an early check they could become victims of a weaker Nation due to power plays.

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Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by CGKing(m): 5:04am On Nov 08, 2012
Welll this is the time obama will show another side of himself. And America will not support Israel. This is the beginning of the end of time
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by AfroBlue(m): 5:21am On Nov 08, 2012
[b]hot off the net


Obama’s Victory Shocks Israel

Yedioth Aharonot: “An Ugly Victory”

http://www.roitov.com/articles/obama2.htm


Emphasizing the wild reaction of the Hebrew media and Israel’s upper echelon of politicians to Obama’s victory, Mossad opened on the same day a recruiting campaign over the internet. Its ads appeared next to pictures illustrating the victory, creating an eerie image. Is Mossad about to gear up sinister old plans for a presidential assassination? Beginning this article in such a fashion is justifiable due to the violent reactions voiced in Israel. One of the softest belonged to Yedioth Aharonot—Israel’s largest newspaper—which read “An Ugly Victory.” The most quoted reaction belonged to Likud Knesset Member Danny Danon, who said "the State of Israel will not surrender to Obama. We have no one to rely on but ourselves."

This was the unsuccesful end of Netanyahu's open campaign for Republican candidate Mitt Romney. The support included a well-advertised visit to Jerusalem, supporting articles in the Israeli and Jewish media, the disclosure of their old personal friendship which dates back to 1976 (see Romney, Obama, and the Israeli Vote), and the inclusion of Netanyahu in Romney's adds. Moreover, the main financial supporter of Netanyahu is Sheldon Adelson, an American Jew who is among America's richest men, his businesses are centered on the Chinese gambling industry. He openly endorsed Romney and contributed at least $40 million to his presidential elections campaign. This unusual intervention in other country's elections was aimed at placing in the White House a president that will be more receptive to Israel's plans to attack Iran (see Romney’s Key in Israeli Attack on Iran). On August 30, 2012, the International Atomic Energy Agency published a report on the nuclear program of Iran. The report claims that Iran is speeding up its uranium enrichment program, having placed more than three quarters of the centrifuges it needs for completing it in a practically impenetrable underground installation, beneath a mountain outside Qum. This means that Iran is close to crossing what Israel had defined as its red line: the capability to produce nuclear weapons in a safe location. With Obama in the White House, Israel's belligerency is likely to be blocked.

Netanyahu's campaign was more successful at home. Israeli Channel 2 performed a poll just before the elections in the USA; 50% of all Israelis backed Romney, versus 26% for Obama. A similar poll conducted by the ultra-Orthodox Channel 10 showed that 50% of secular Jews favored Obama, and 50% Romney; however, religious Jews favored Romney, giving him 85% of their voices. Unluckily for Romney, neither group could vote in the USA.



Panic in Jerusalem

The reason why abovementioned Danny Danon became the main politician quoted on the issue despite his relative obscurity was that Netanyahu panicked after the first reactions were published. Interior Minister Eli Yishai, Chairman of Shas Party, said "This is probably not a very good morning for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu." The reason for this statement is clear; if until now the relations between Netanyahu and Obama were not particularly friendly, from now onwards, Netanyahu can count on open hostility. Netanyahu was fast to react, ordering all of his party's ministers and Knesset members to avoid commenting on Obama's re-election without coordinating their statements with the Prime Minister's Bureau. "Don't talk about Obama," Netanyahu was quoted by local media.

In parallel, a witch hunt begun among American Jewry. the picture above was taken from the settler Channel 7. It shows the abovementioned Mossad ad next to the main reaction of the channel to the elections. The headline reads "Anger in the USA on Rabbis who supported Obama." The article brings an analysis of David Badin (English spelling may vary), director of a news agency and of a political research center active in Boston and Jerusalem. He explains how his organizations approached hundreds of rabbis all over the US, trying to convince them to endorse Romney and to "teach how much Obama is dangerous to Israel, this would have change the picture, and Romney would have won." He claims that the rabbis could have changed the situation in several key states. He ends his analysis claiming that if these American Jews "put tfilin (while praying), pray three times a day (in weekdays), but vote Obama, there are serious questions on their ways." He continues "there was here a president who made terrible things. He put anti-Semites in senior positions. He supported Islam... All this must force us to consider the relations between religious-Jews in Israel and America, and why there is such a disconnection between them." This is the closest thing to a formal statement of the settlers on their position. It is unlikely they will find any sympathy in Obama's next term.

Netanyahu is under serious political pressure, due to the upcoming elections on January 22, 2013. He is facing serious social protests at home and needs a war to distract the electorate. It always works. A war with Iran is not possible right now. Yet, Obama's victory may have provided him with a poorman's war. Danny Danon's statement opening this article was not random, and probably was coordinated with Netanyahu. From now until the elections Netanyahu will claim that the USA has become unfriendly and thus the people must unify and brace themselves for hard times. A words' war with America is almost as good as one with Iran.

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Poll: Romney Wins, Among American-Israeli Citizens

Losing GOP presidential candidate receives 85 percent of dual citizens' votes

http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/israel-news/poll-romney-wins-among-american-israeli-citizens[/b]
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by true2god: 6:21am On Nov 08, 2012
blkmum700:

You are right that war is not by population but population play big impact in War,i don't really know if you think China don't possess any modern weaponry,why do you think American governments are worried about china military development?i don't think america have weapons china don't have,except america have a weapon that can wipe the whole of china without that,There is no way america can defeat china because they have the same weapons and china have more men in Army that them,they can deployed 1 million Army to fight in the Morning and another 1 million to fight in the afternoon with another to fight at night,do you really think american can fight 3million army a day with same weapon they are have,5 people with cuttlass can't kill 50people with same cutlass,that's just the logic behind it,because they both have same weapons.
Many world powers like the US, Russia and Britain are downsizing or reducin the size of their convetionally forces for a more sophisticated, smaller but more deadly military. No serios world power is amassin large convetional forces. Convetional forces is basically for peace keepin operations.

One million chinese army cannot cross the chinese straite to re-claim taiwan. they need a strong air-force and navy to do dat and dat is y they r findin it difficult to force taiwan back to mainland china. The chinese succeessfully claim tibet because the hav one of the largest conventional armed forces world wide and they were not separated by sea. So its easy. But they cant defeat Japan with their large number to claim their island which japan has recently taken over. They understand the implication of any aggresive move against japan. Its as sure as hell that even the present Japanes navy and air-force will defeat china. The advantage the chinese hav is the long range ballistic missiles based in chinese mainland.

China is strong but never a global power. They cant fight outside the pacific region at present.

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Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Ibrahimmrfish(m): 6:38am On Nov 08, 2012
U people are very funny.When Isreal attack Iraq and Syrian nuclear facilities,Isreal didn't give any worning to them.D fact dat,Isreal keep singing d soung of attacking Iran for years now,shows dat Isreal is afraid.They Know what Hizbula did to them in 2006 war.And Hizbula is just Iranian tool.Now if common group like Hizbula can win,a war with Isreal.Imagine what Iran will do to them.D fact on d ground is,Isreal can never attack Iran,without d big brother.D u.s.a.And stop making mistake and comparing Persian with d Arabs.There is a difference between those two.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by cleric(m): 6:52am On Nov 08, 2012
Ibrahim mr fish: U people are very funny.When Isreal attack Iraq and Syrian nuclear facilities,Isreal didn't give any worning to them.D fact dat,Isreal keep singing d soung of attacking Iran for years now,shows dat Isreal is afraid.They Know what Hizbula did to them in 2006 war.And Hizbula is just Iranian tool.Now if common group like Hizbula can win,a war with Isreal.Imagine what Iran will do to them.D fact on d ground is,Isreal can never attack Iran,without d big brother.D u.s.a.And stop making mistake and comparing Persian with d Arabs.There is a difference between those two.
Hisbula won israel in 2006? Is dat wat u were taught in your mosques? Please my friends go and read your history books and see how the whole world was begging israel to please stop. The fact is this, Ismael will forever be under Isaac. Take it or return it.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by fitzmayowa: 6:56am On Nov 08, 2012
tpapi: israel dey form like say him fit defeat iran unilaterally,if only US fit just dey neutral,make iran make life tire israel small


If i may ask what gives you the impression that isreal can't deal iran all alone
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Kingdavid2020: 7:01am On Nov 08, 2012
i do not think it is a problem of democrat or republican. rather it is that of personality. and i think that is what the Israel PM was saying. democrat or republican, america policy is same. i think Obama is rather strategic, and the Israel PM would prefer an aggressive USA president. may be if it were Roland Regan, things would have been different. middle east is a global problem and every responsible leader must be concern about it.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by mystikal(m): 7:10am On Nov 08, 2012
Israel will finish Iran without even America's help.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Nobody: 8:11am On Nov 08, 2012
ondo_boi: what point did you make with that?
GOD IS AGAINST THE LAND OF ISRAEL
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by cleric(m): 8:15am On Nov 08, 2012
obadiah777: GOD IS AGAINST THE LAND OF ISRAEL
Probably.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by hotwax: 8:47am On Nov 08, 2012
God is not against the land of Israel. He just want them to be independent on America.
Modern war is not fought with/by. The current era is cyber warfare and effective weapon delivery system.
That's why Japan can deal with China anytime, anyday.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Nobody: 8:50am On Nov 08, 2012
The foreign policy of the United States is not dictated by one man. Obama cannot change the foreign policy of the US alone. At the same time Jewish Lobby in still very strong in the US. Israeli -US relations is determined by the American Jews not their two leaders really. The day the Americans will disagree with Israel may come, but it is not today nor will it be under Obama. Natanyahu''s pro war stance has always been in thorn in his personal relationship with home country top politicians as well as Americans, so it's not new to the stakeholders.

Most of the analysis here are also too simple, focusing on who will win a war btw Isreal and Iran. That's not the problem cause Isreal will manhandle Iran in a conventional war, that's the reason Tehran is thinking nuclear. The problem is that rather than allow Iran an opportunity to gain first strike nuclear advantage over it, Isreal would rather risk creating an unconventional war by striking Iran. But the US with her economic problems and brand as Isreals ally whether true or false, cannot risk the effect of such a war at the moment. Being more picturesque, imagine if Isreal attacks Iran and in desperation Iran launches a hidden nuclear war head that misses Isreal a little and falls into Europe due to poor delivery system for missiles , you will immediately within five seconds get a pre-programmed reaction from say France, or Germany or Italy hitting Iran. In addition Isreal will respond with several Nuclear heads. Out of ally responsibility Russia China, North Korea may respond. Once Russia acts, the whole of Europe and US will attack Russia with nuclear heads. Believe it or not, most Nuclear heads in the world are on red alert and trigger ready and pointing at a target all the time. A single nuclear event can trigger several more in reaction just within five to 10 seconds of detection. So their is a high risk that an unjustifiable or feeble dispute can push the whole world into a nuclear war. This risk is the main reason why US will not allow Isreal to attack Iran, whether solo or as an ally. And it has very little to do with Obama or Natanyahu's personal politics

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Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by hotwax: 9:01am On Nov 08, 2012
God is not against the land of Israel. He just want them to be independent on America.
Modern war is not fought with/by population. The current era is cyber warfare and effective weapon delivery system.
That's why Japan can deal with China anytime, anyday.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Vado(m): 9:30am On Nov 08, 2012
Israel neva sought dis war with Iran. Iran started d braggadacio of how Israel must be wiped out of d face of time. R u guys now sayin dey (Israel) shud wait until Iran attacks b4 d Jews protect emselves? Strategicaly, best form of defence is attack.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Nobody: 9:58am On Nov 08, 2012
Ibrahim mr fish: U people are very funny.When Isreal attack Iraq and Syrian nuclear facilities,Isreal didn't give any worning to them.D fact dat,Isreal keep singing d soung of attacking Iran for years now,shows dat Isreal is afraid.They Know what Hizbula did to them in 2006 war.And Hizbula is just Iranian tool.Now if common group like Hizbula can win,a war with Isreal.Imagine[b] what Iran will do to them.D fact on d ground is,Isreal can never attack Iran,without d big brother.D u.s.a[/b].And stop making mistake and comparing Persian with d Arabs.There is a difference between those two.
read about the "six day war" and probably "Yom Kippur War". That will educate you more.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by hotwax: 10:04am On Nov 08, 2012
Israel did not start this war. And not all Iranians want Israel wiped out. Iran and Israel have always being friends before ayahtollah komeni take over. Israel has even helped Iran against Saddam Hussein before.
The problem is, these ayatollahs sees themselves as the leader of Jihad agaisnt the world. And Arabs mainly (sunni) are not happy with it.
Saudi arabia is an arc-enemy of iran. So also kuwait, UAE etal.

Saudi is even ready to finance Israel against these ayatollahs. Some Iranians too are ready to take on these ayatollah but they are not armed or well armed.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by emmatok(m): 10:09am On Nov 08, 2012
Vado: Israel neva sought dis war with Iran. Iran started d braggadacio of how Israel must be wiped out of d face of time. R u guys now sayin dey (Israel) shud wait until Iran attacks b4 d Jews protect emselves? Strategicaly, best form of defence is attack.

Ok let them strike Iran and see if Iran won't return fire.
My friend war is not in notice making.
It the war start both Israel and Iran Will suffer.

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Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by blkmum700: 10:11am On Nov 08, 2012
true2god: Many world powers like the US, Russia and Britain are downsizing or reducin the size of their convetionally forces for a more sophisticated, smaller but more deadly military. No serios world power is amassin large convetional forces. Convetional forces is basically for peace keepin operations.

One million chinese army cannot cross the chinese straite to re-claim taiwan. they need a strong air-force and navy to do dat and dat is y they r findin it difficult to force taiwan back to mainland china. The chinese succeessfully claim tibet because the hav one of the largest conventional armed forces world wide and they were not separated by sea. So its easy. But they cant defeat Japan with their large number to claim their island which japan has recently taken over. They understand the implication of any aggresive move against japan. Its as sure as hell that even the present Japanes navy and air-force will defeat china. The advantage the chinese hav is the long range ballistic missiles based in chinese mainland.

China is strong but never a global power. They cant fight outside the pacific region at present.



Taiwan is still Under China,No need for China to cross anywhere to claim it,They threatened Taiwan with Military force if they declear Independence.the Island Claim By Japan doesn't belong to China,about four or five countries are claiming the island including Taiwan,beside the people living in that Island are Japanese speaking people,China is just claiming it,it's very easy for Japan to claim the Island because of the people living there who are Japanese speaking people,if you think Japan has strong Navy they could have deal with China for claiming the whole of South Asia Sea,i don't know if you think china don't have their own Navy and Air Force with Modern equipment,The link Below shows how China Patrol boats has been aggressive to Japanese Navy without attacking them,China is no child Play to Any country,Do you know that,at the recent Olympic held in England,Taiwan flag was display in London,Chinese Government ask for it to be Remove and it was removed.

http://news.yahoo.com/china-relentlessly-harries-japan-island-dispute-092642850.html;_ylt=AoWLCKIQUY6ZnmrREIYxe1YBxg8F;_ylu=X3oDMTQza2Njc291BG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBXb3JsZFNGIEFzaWFTU0YEcGtnAzhlNjA1MzZkLTYxOTctMzM5Yi1hNzk1LTI4ZWEyMGU0Y2ZjMwRwb3MDMjMEc2VjA3RvcF9zdG9yeQR2ZXIDNWMxOGQzYzAtMjc2NC0xMWUyLTllZmYtN2ZmYmIxYzhmMzI1;_ylg=X3oDMTFvODAybTAwBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxhc2lhBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by hotwax: 10:15am On Nov 08, 2012
And I have many Iranian friends (learned ones). They told me they hold no hatred for Israel except the Fars newspaper (government medias) poisoning the hearts of gullible Iranians.

Iranians are peace loving people. They are accomodating to Jews. The issue is like Nigerian PDP wanting to wipe out Niger republic off the map. They own the military, CBN and the media. So to the whole world, you will think all Iranians are demons, but its all wrong. An Iranian even told me he viewed Israel as A̶̲̥̅​ refugee camp that need help.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Nobody: 12:06pm On Nov 08, 2012
blkmum700:


I will be a fool to think Nigeria can defeat israel at war,because Nigeria doesn't have weapons Israel has,but with same weapons at Nigeria possesion there is know way israel can defeat Nigeria with don't compare china with Nigeria,Number of soldiers and weapons count in war,why do u think North Korea threaten South Korea every time,it's simply because North korea has more combat army and weaspons more than the south korea.China with highest number of soldiers with lot of mordern weapons can't be defeated by america,can deployed 3million soldiers everyday at war with sophisticated weapons.I don't dislike americans or isrealis just saying population play big impact.

Numbers means nothing and china is still developing its military machine it only deployed its first aircraft carrier 3years ago and recently deployed its second.

Some of u fools here still live in a dream world.

To win a war a country must have a qaulity amphibious force and must be able to deploy a large force in quickest time possible and to date only few countries has this capability and Russia is one of them.

A 3million man soldiers can be blown out of their bunkers with a few aircraft bombers.

In modern warfare a well trained and equiped batalion of around 4000 man can take out 15000 soldiers who don't have the same level of training and weaponry

Isreal's only deterent is their nuclear capability other then that isreal can never win a war on Iranian soil. The size of a country and especially the possible hostile population is a bigger threat to a military then a opossing army. The US and its war in afghanistan and Iraq is a good case study of this wars are nolonger just about weapons and size of a army. Without support of the local population no country even a superpower can invade another country and that's how things have changed.

The terian and ecological conditions of a country is also another facter in wars isreali army will loose a war on nigerian soil even with nigeria's lack of hightech weaponry, the same way goes the other way around isreal and nigeria is simply not equiped to fight on their respective terains.

War is nolonger won on paper and percieved military strenghts economy, manpower, location, weaponry and intelligence plays a big role in modern day warfare.

Isreal's military and economy is simply to small to sustain a long protracted war outside its borders and that's why they need US support in whatever war they embark even if its only backup support or weapon systems and that's a fact.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by true2god: 12:19pm On Nov 08, 2012
blkmum700:


Taiwan is still Under China,No need for China to cross anywhere to claim it,They threatened Taiwan with Military force if they declear Independence.the Island Claim By Japan doesn't belong to China,about four or five countries are claiming the island including Taiwan,beside the people living in that Island are Japanese speaking people,China is just claiming it,it's very easy for Japan to claim the Island because of the people living there who are Japanese speaking people,if you think Japan has strong Navy they could have deal with China for claiming the whole of South Asia Sea,i don't know if you think china don't have their own Navy and Air Force with Modern equipment,The link Below shows how China Patrol boats has been aggressive to Japanese Navy without attacking them,China is no child Play to Any country,Do you know that,at the recent Olympic held in England,Taiwan flag was display in London,Chinese Government ask for it to be Remove and it was removed.

http://news.yahoo.com/china-relentlessly-harries-japan-island-dispute-092642850.html;_ylt=AoWLCKIQUY6ZnmrREIYxe1YBxg8F;_ylu=X3oDMTQza2Njc291BG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBXb3JsZFNGIEFzaWFTU0YEcGtnAzhlNjA1MzZkLTYxOTctMzM5Yi1hNzk1LTI4ZWEyMGU0Y2ZjMwRwb3MDMjMEc2VjA3RvcF9zdG9yeQR2ZXIDNWMxOGQzYzAtMjc2NC0xMWUyLTllZmYtN2ZmYmIxYzhmMzI1;_ylg=X3oDMTFvODAybTAwBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAN3b3JsZHxhc2lhBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

Note that Taiwan run a separate economy frm china (taiwanese $), they hav a separate armed forces, run independent election (political indepence). The bone of contention is dat china is against any attempt at taiwan declarin full independence and veto any attempt @ recognizin taiwan at the UN being a permanent member of the UNSC. If geographically taiwan is in the place of tibet the chinese would hav annexed it for long. But there they hav to cross water of over 100miles to do dat.

China patrol boats harassin japanese shippin at the disputed island is a sign of weakness. Thats the least they can do. As at today Japanese navy is more sophitcated and stronger than chinese navy.

China's claim on the whole south china sea is a symbolic show of power. They last yr had issue with vietman and vietnamese threatened retaliatn if bullied on dis matter and china were warned by the US and they stopped.

On the disputed island remember dat china attacked india on a similar incidence in 1962 to claim tibet. Some tibetians hav indian origin yet they muscled out india cos india is weak. If india is in the position of japan china wont dare it.

World politics is all about bullyin the weaker countries by the stronger. If japan were to be a country like campodia china will never concede the disputed islands.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by lukkie(m): 12:42pm On Nov 08, 2012
Make Netanyahu go hug nuclear warhead. What's the difference between him & Hamas sef? Bloody terrorist!
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Nobody: 3:14pm On Nov 08, 2012
cleric:
Hisbula won israel in 2006? Is dat wat u were taught in your mosques? Please my friends go and read your history books and see how the whole world was begging israel to please stop. The fact is this, Ismael will forever be under Isaac. Take it or return it.

U fools are so obsessed with biblical qoutations this is the 21 century not 15AD
gringringrin

it seems that there's a believe in some nairaland christian fanatics that the State of Isreal is God's chosen people and that God will never allow anything to happen to that nation.

Answer me this if that Racist Zionist State Of Isreal is God's chosen people then what are u who believe in Christ, black zombies or children of God either way u will remain fools trapped in the believe of the socalled promissed land.

By the way Zionist has never been a friend to any black nation stop your delusional sympathetic sentiments towards a isreali state deviod of any humanity.

Africans trully still have a long way to go to get out of there colonial masters brainwashed mindsetsgrin

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Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by hotwax: 4:00pm On Nov 08, 2012
U fools are so obsessed with biblical qoutations this is the 21 century not 15AD


it seems that there's a believe in some nairaland christian fanatics that the State of Isreal is God's chosen people and that God will never allow anything to happen to that nation.

Answer me this if that Racist Zionist State Of Isreal is God's chosen people then what are u who believe in Christ, black zombies or children of God either way u will remain fools trapped in the believe of the socalled promissed land.

By the way Zionist has never been a friend to any black nation stop your delusional sympathetic sentiments towards a isreali state deviod of any humanity.

Africans trully still have a long way to go to get out of there colonial masters brainwashed mindsets

Stop crying/complaining. That's the same way your black monkey brothers are still serving as arabs slave. They also think arabs are allah choosen.

Shutup bigots. Taliban, iraq was your savior. now, They are gone, its now Iran. When Iran is gone too, you will shift to Somalia or Niger republic.

Keep day dreaming. You can even start going about and be ranting "iran military is powerful than america". When the gbege happen, don't run here and start crying about America's war crime.

When you call for war and your enemy gives you A̶̲̥̅​ full fight, you will now start crying. "Israel kills innocent muslim women and children". That's what they do when they loosing A̶̲̥̅​ war.
Sharap propagandist. War is not fought with mouth.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Ibrahimmrfish(m): 4:43pm On Nov 08, 2012
No black person ever open his mouth and say dat,Arabe are God choosen ppl.To us,everyone is equal.So stop trying to put words on our mouth.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by Nobody: 5:34pm On Nov 08, 2012
hotwax:

Stop crying/complaining. That's the same way your black monkey brothers are still serving as arabs slave. They also think arabs are allah choosen.

Shutup bigots. Taliban, iraq was your savior. now, They are gone, its now Iran. When Iran is gone too, you will shift to Somalia or Niger republic.

Keep day dreaming. You can even start going about and be ranting "iran military is powerful than america". When the gbege happen, don't run here and start crying about America's war crime.

When you call for war and your enemy gives you A̶̲̥̅​ full fight, you will now start crying. "Israel kills innocent muslim women and children". That's what they do when they loosing A̶̲̥̅​ war.
Sharap propagandist. War is not fought with mouth.

Crying about what I'm christian but I'm no puppet brainwashed baboon LITTLE BOYgrin I dont give a f*ck about that Zionist choosen nation.

Tell me how many wars has christians and zionist started in the name of God and democracy in the last 200 years of the modern world compared to Islam.

This not just about nuclear power it has more to do with economic and political control over a region then nuclear weapons.

This is a proxy war retoric led by five behind the scenes superpowers USA, Britian, France, Russia, China.

The West wants a stable middle east favouring there economic goals and Isreali's wants to be the only nuclear regional superpower in the middle east.

My son please stop ranting when u know nothing about war and religion.

Iran is not a Arab country its a Persian nation only linked to arabs through its main religion Islam.

Iran is a more open society then any other Arab state in the region woman have more freedom in Iran then in most Arab nations.

Yes war isn't won by word of mouth u can talk bullsh** all u want the fact remains isreal don't have the economic power or personnel to wage a protracted war on Iranian soil only US can do this but even this can risk the US into another recession an a region wide war which can even lead to WWIII if Russian and Chinese economic interest are threatened.

In order for Isreal to attack Iran it needs permission to use the airspace of Iran's neighbouring countries and they have expressed their reservations. Iran has threatend to attack US bases in the region and to sabotage oil pipelines and shipping lanes.

Stupid boy Isreal treats black imigrants in isreal as garden boys(you)cheesy. Your precious land of milk and honey the land of the Messiah is one of the most racist nations towards black africans. Keep on dreaming maybe the Messiah will guide u to clean toilets in the promissed land.
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by jude33084(m): 6:59pm On Nov 08, 2012
blkmum700:


I will be a fool to think Nigeria can defeat israel at war,because Nigeria doesn't have weapons Israel has,but with same weapons at Nigeria possesion there is know way israel can defeat Nigeria with don't compare china with Nigeria,Number of soldiers and weapons count in war,why do u think North Korea threaten South Korea every time,it's simply because North korea has more combat army and weaspons more than the south korea.China with highest number of soldiers with lot of mordern weapons can't be defeated by america,can deployed 3million soldiers everyday at war with sophisticated weapons.I don't dislike americans or isrealis just saying population play big impact.

When talking about the world super war powers pls dont mention China cheesy
Re: Obama's Victory Spells Trouble For Israel's Netanyahu by jude33084(m): 7:09pm On Nov 08, 2012
snydergp:

Crying about what I'm christian but I'm no puppet brainwashed baboon LITTLE BOYgrin I dont give a f*ck about that Zionist choosen nation.

Tell me how many wars has christians and zionist started in the name of God and democracy in the last 200 years of the modern world compared to Islam.

This not just about nuclear power it has more to do with economic and political control over a region then nuclear weapons.

This is a proxy war retoric led by five behind the scenes superpowers USA, Britian, France, Russia, China.

The West wants a stable middle east favouring there economic goals and Isreali's wants to be the only nuclear regional superpower in the middle east.

My son please stop ranting when u know nothing about war and religion.

Iran is not a Arab country its a Persian nation only linked to arabs through its main religion Islam.

Iran is a more open society then any other Arab state in the region woman have more freedom in Iran then in most Arab nations.

Yes war isn't won by word of mouth u can talk bullsh** all u want the fact remains isreal don't have the economic power or personnel to wage a protracted war on Iranian soil only US can do this but even this can risk the US into another recession an a region wide war which can even lead to WWIII if Russian and Chinese economic interest are threatened.

In order for Isreal to attack Iran it needs permission to use the airspace of Iran's neighbouring countries and they have expressed their reservations. Iran has threatend to attack US bases in the region and to sabotage oil pipelines and shipping lanes.

Stupid boy Isreal treats black imigrants in isreal as garden boys(you)cheesy. Your precious land of milk and honey the land of the Messiah is one of the most racist nations towards black africans. Keep on dreaming maybe the Messiah will guide u to clean toilets in the promissed land.

About that; the bolded, I think you should read the last attack on Irans weapon factory on Sudans soil wink Sudan is a distance country from Isreal than Iran aŋԂ No body saw it coming smiley

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