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The Truth About What Happens After Death by nyameke: 4:16am On Nov 16, 2012
I have been inspired to share this all day so here goes
The Truth about What Happens After Death

Neale Donald Walsch: “What happens when you die?”
God: “What do you choose to have happen?”
Neale Donald Walsch: “You mean that what happens is whatever we choose to have happen?”
God: “Do you think that just because you’ve died you stop creating? When you die, you do not stop creating.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

“The reason you do not stop creating when you die is that you don’t ever die. You cannot. For you are life itself. And life cannot not be life. Therefore you cannot die. So, at the moment of your death what happens is… you go on living.
This is why so many people who have “died” do not believe it—because they do not have the experience of being dead. On the contrary, they feel (because they are) very much alive. So there’s confusion.
The Self may see the body lying there, all crumpled up, not moving, yet the Self is suddenly moving all over the place. It has the experience, often, of literally flying all over the room—then of being everywhere in the space, all at once. And when it desires a particular point of view, it suddenly finds itself experiencing that.
If the soul (the name we will now give to the Self) wonders, “Gee, why is my body not moving?” it will find itself right there, hovering right over the body, watching the stillness curiously.
If someone enters the room, and the soul thinks, “Who is that?”—immediately the soul is in front of, or next to, that person.
Thus, in a very short time the soul learns that it can go anywhere—with the speed of its thought.
A feeling of incredible freedom and lightness overtakes the soul, and it usually takes a little while for the entity to “get used to” all this bouncing around with every thought.
If the person had children, and should think of those children, immediately the soul is in the presence of those children, wherever they are. Thus the soul learns that not only can it be wherever it wants with the speed of its thought—it can be in two places at once. Or three places. Or five.
It can exist, observe, and conduct activities in these places simultaneously, without difficulty or confusion. Then it can “rejoin” itself, returning to one place again, simply by refocusing.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

“Always in life you have before you three choices:
1. You may allow your uncontrolled thoughts to create The Moment.
2. You may allow your creative consciousness to create The Moment.
3. You may allow the collective consciousness to create The Moment.
Here is an irony: In your present life you find it difficult to create consciously from your individual awareness, and, indeed, often assume your individual understandings to be wrong, given all that you are seeing around you, and so, you surrender to the collective consciousness, whether it serves you to do so or not.
In the first moments of what you call the afterlife, on the other hand, you may find it difficult to surrender to the collective consciousness, given all that you are seeing around you (which may be unbelievable to you), and so you will be tempted to hold to your own individual understandings, whether they serve you or not.
I would tell you this: It is when you are surrounded by lower consciousness that you will benefit more from remaining with your individual understandings, and when you are surrounded by higher consciousness that you receive greater benefit from surrender.
It may, therefore, be wise to seek beings of high consciousness. I cannot overemphasize the importance of the company you keep.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

God: “Some of you have expectations without even knowing it. All your life you’ve had thoughts about what occurs after death, and when you “die” those thoughts are made manifest, and you suddenly realize (make real) what you’ve been thinking about. And it is your strongest thoughts, the ones you’ve held most fervently, that, as always in life, will prevail.”
Neale Donald Walsch: “Then a person could go to hell. If people believed all during life that hell is a place which most certainly existed, that God will judge “the quick and the dead,” that He will separate the “wheat from the chaff” and the “goats from the sheep,” and that they are surely “going to hell,” given all that they have done to offend God, then they would go to hell! They would burn in the everlasting fires of damnation! How could they escape it? You’ve said repeatedly throughout this dialogue that hell does not exist. Yet You also say that we create our own reality, and have the power to create any reality at all, out of our thought about it. So hellfire and damnation could and does exist for those who believe in it.”
God: “Nothing exists in Ultimate Reality save that Which Is. You are correct in pointing out that you may create any subreality you choose—including the experience of hell as you describe it. I have never said at any point in this entire dialogue that you could not experience hell; I said that hell does not exist. Most of what you experience does not exist, yet you experience it nonetheless.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by nyameke: 4:19am On Nov 16, 2012
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Neale Donald Walsch: “If there is no hell, yet I am experiencing hell, what the hell is the difference?”
God: “There wouldn’t be any, as long as you remain in your created reality. Yet you will not create such a reality forever. Some of you won’t experience it for more than what you would call a “nanosecond.” And therefore you will not experience, even in the private domains of your own imagination, a place of sadness or suffering.”
Neale Donald Walsch: “What would stop me from creating such a place for all eternity if I believed all my life that there was such a place, and that something I’d done had caused me to deserve such a place?”
God: “Your knowledge and understanding. Just as in this life your next moment is created out of the new understandings you’ve gained from your last moment, so, too, in what you call the afterlife, will you create a new moment from what you’ve come to know and understand in the old. And one thing you will come to know and understand very quickly is that you are at choice, always, about what you wish to experience.
That is because in the afterlife results are instantaneous, and you will not be able to miss the connection between your thoughts about a thing, and the experience those thoughts create. You will understand yourself to be creating your own reality.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

“You will experience after death exactly what you expect, and choose, to experience.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

Neale Donald Walsch: “So many different stories exist about what happens in the moments after death.
Some people come back from near-death experiences filled with peace and love, and with no fear, ever again, of death, while others return very frightened, certain that they have just encountered dark and evil forces.”
God: “The soul responds to, re-creates, the mind’s most powerful suggestion, producing that in its experience.
Some souls remain in that experience for a time, making it very real—even as they remained in their experiences while with the body, though they were equally as unreal and impermanent. Other souls quickly adjust, see the experience for what it is, begin to think new thoughts, and move immediately to new experiences.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

Neale Donald Walsch: “Do You mean that there is no one particular way things are in the afterlife? Are there no eternal truths that exist outside of our own mind? Do we continue to go on creating myths and legends and make-believe experiences right past our death and into the next reality? When do we get released from the bondage? When do we come to know the truth?”
God: “When you choose to. That was the point of the Robin Williams movie. That is the point being made here. Those whose only desire is to know the eternal truth of All
That Is, to understand the great mysteries, to experience the grandest reality, do so.
Yes, there is a One Great Truth; there is a Final Reality. But you will always get what you choose, regardless of that reality—precisely because the reality is that you are a divine creature, divinely creating your reality even as you are experiencing It.
Yet should you choose to stop creating your own individual reality and begin to understand and experience the larger, unified reality, you will have an immediate opportunity to do that.
Those who “die” in a state of such choosing, of such desiring, of such willingness and such knowing, move into the experience of the Oneness at once. Others move into the experience only if, as, and when they so desire. It is precisely the same when the soul is with the body.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

“You may return to the One and experience the loss of your individual Self whenever it pleases you. You may also re-create the experience of your individual Self whenever you choose.
You may experience any aspect of the All That Is that you wish, in its tiniest proportion, or its grandest. You may experience the microcosm or the macrocosm.
When you reside with the human body, you are experiencing g a smaller portion than the whole; that is, a portion of the microcosm (although by no means the smallest portion thereof). When you reside away from the body (in what some would call the “spirit world”), you have enlarged by quantum leaps your perspective. You will suddenly seem to know everything; be able to be everything. You will have a macrocosmic view of things, allowing you to understand that which you do not now understand.
One of the things you will then understand is that there is a larger macrocosm still. That is, you will suddenly become clear that All That Is is even greater than the real-ity you are then experiencing. This will fill you at once with awe and anticipation, wonder and excitement, joy and exhilaration, for you will then know and understand what I know and understand: that the game never ends.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

“In the time after your “death” you may choose to have every question you ever had answered—and open yourself to new questions you never dreamed existed. You may choose to experience Oneness with All That Is. And you will have a chance to decide what you wish to be, do, and have next.
Do you choose to return to your most recent body? Do you choose to experience life again in human form, but of another kind?
Do you choose to remain where you are in the “spirit world,” at the level you are then experiencing? Do you choose to go on, go further, in your knowing and experiencing? Do you choose to “lose your identity” altogether and now become part of the Oneness?
What do you choose? What do you choose? What do you choose?
Always, that is the question I will be asking you. Always, that is the inquiry of the universe. For the universe knows nothing except how to grant your fondest wish, your greatest desire. Indeed, it is doing that every moment, every day.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by nyameke50: 4:36am On Nov 16, 2012
CONTD

Neale Donald Walsch: “If there is no hell, yet I am experiencing hell, what the hell is the difference?”
God: “There wouldn’t be any, as long as you remain in your created reality. Yet you will not create such a reality forever. Some of you won’t experience it for more than what you would call a “nanosecond.” And therefore you will not experience, even in the private domains of your own imagination, a place of sadness or suffering.”
Neale Donald Walsch: “What would stop me from creating such a place for all eternity if I believed all my life that there was such a place, and that something I’d done had caused me to deserve such a place?”
God: “Your knowledge and understanding. Just as in this life your next moment is created out of the new understandings you’ve gained from your last moment, so, too, in what you call the afterlife, will you create a new moment from what you’ve come to know and understand in the old. And one thing you will come to know and understand very quickly is that you are at choice, always, about what you wish to experience.
That is because in the afterlife results are instantaneous, and you will not be able to miss the connection between your thoughts about a thing, and the experience those thoughts create. You will understand yourself to be creating your own reality.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

“You will experience after death exactly what you expect, and choose, to experience.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

Neale Donald Walsch: “So many different stories exist about what happens in the moments after death.
Some people come back from near-death experiences filled with peace and love, and with no fear, ever again, of death, while others return very frightened, certain that they have just encountered dark and evil forces.”
God: “The soul responds to, re-creates, the mind’s most powerful suggestion, producing that in its experience.
Some souls remain in that experience for a time, making it very real—even as they remained in their experiences while with the body, though they were equally as unreal and impermanent. Other souls quickly adjust, see the experience for what it is, begin to think new thoughts, and move immediately to new experiences.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by Nobody: 4:42am On Nov 16, 2012
We create space and time with our mind. Time itself doesn't exist.

Everyone has the ability to create hell,suffering with their minds.

Agreeing to an idea means we have given that idea a green light to exist.

All souls are eternal,hence,no beginning and no end.

There are several realities, we have the ability to create unlimited. We shift daily between realities

If some believes hell fire exist,then it will exist for him/her. Why? Because the power of the mind is huge.
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by nyameke50: 4:42am On Nov 16, 2012
CONTD
Neale Donald Walsch: “Do You mean that there is no one particular way things are in the afterlife? Are there no eternal truths that exist outside of our own mind? Do we continue to go on creating myths and legends and make-believe experiences right past our death and into the next reality? When do we get released from the bondage? When do we come to know the truth?”
God: “When you choose to. That was the point of the Robin Williams movie. That is the point being made here. Those whose only desire is to know the eternal truth of All
That Is, to understand the great mysteries, to experience the grandest reality, do so.
Yes, there is a One Great Truth; there is a Final Reality. But you will always get what you choose, regardless of that reality—precisely because the reality is that you are a divine creature, divinely creating your reality even as you are experiencing It.
Yet should you choose to stop creating your own individual reality and begin to understand and experience the larger, unified reality, you will have an immediate opportunity to do that.
Those who “die” in a state of such choosing, of such desiring, of such willingness and such knowing, move into the experience of the Oneness at once. Others move into the experience only if, as, and when they so desire. It is precisely the same when the soul is with the body.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

“You may return to the One and experience the loss of your individual Self whenever it pleases you. You may also re-create the experience of your individual Self whenever you choose.
You may experience any aspect of the All That Is that you wish, in its tiniest proportion, or its grandest. You may experience the microcosm or the macrocosm.
When you reside with the human body, you are experiencing g a smaller portion than the whole; that is, a portion of the microcosm (although by no means the smallest portion thereof). When you reside away from the body (in what some would call the “spirit world”), you have enlarged by quantum leaps your perspective. You will suddenly seem to know everything; be able to be everything. You will have a macrocosmic view of things, allowing you to understand that which you do not now understand.
One of the things you will then understand is that there is a larger macrocosm still. That is, you will suddenly become clear that All That Is is even greater than the real-ity you are then experiencing. This will fill you at once with awe and anticipation, wonder and excitement, joy and exhilaration, for you will then know and understand what I know and understand: that the game never ends.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by Nobody: 4:50am On Nov 16, 2012
If someone says he/she died and went to hell. It could be true because he agreed to the fact that hell exist. Not knowing that he created the reality of hell.

Just like the Matrix, nothing exists,but everything we feel and touch are all illusions. Nothing exist,its just the mind working. That is why humans have the ability to be God if they could make use of 100% of their brain and mind power.

This is the main reason why people need to be empowered; which means to remember how powerful they are.
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by greatgenius: 5:01am On Nov 16, 2012
CONTD I keep getting banned but i have to finish what i started so here are the rest of the conversations.

In the time after your “death” you may choose to have every question you ever had answered—and open yourself to new questions you never dreamed existed. You may choose to experience Oneness with All That Is. And you will have a chance to decide what you wish to be, do, and have next.
Do you choose to return to your most recent body? Do you choose to experience life again in human form, but of another kind?
Do you choose to remain where you are in the “spirit world,” at the level you are then experiencing? Do you choose to go on, go further, in your knowing and experiencing? Do you choose to “lose your identity” altogether and now become part of the Oneness?
What do you choose? What do you choose? What do you choose?
Always, that is the question I will be asking you. Always, that is the inquiry of the universe. For the universe knows nothing except how to grant your fondest wish, your greatest desire. Indeed, it is doing that every moment, every day.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by greatgenius: 5:05am On Nov 16, 2012
Heaven, Hell and Nirvana
“You may do one of three things in what you call the afterlife, just as in the life you are now experiencing. You may submit to the creations of your uncontrolled thoughts, you may create your experience consciously out of choice, or you may experience the collective consciousness of All That Is. This last experience is called Reunification, or Rejoining the One.
Should you take the first path, most of you will not do so for very long (unlike the way you behave on Earth). This is because in the moment you don’t like what you are experiencing, you will choose to create a new and more pleasant reality, which you will do by simply stopping your negative thoughts.
Because of this, you will never experience the “hell” of which you are so afraid, unless you choose to. Even in that case you will be “happy,” in that you will be getting what you want. (More people than you know are “happy” being “miserable.”) So you will keep experiencing it until you don’t choose to any more.
For most of you, the moment you even begin to experience it, you will move away from it and create something new. You can eliminate the hell in your life on Earth exactly the same way.
Should you take the second path and consciously create your experience, you will no doubt experience going “straight to heaven,” because this is what anyone who is freely choosing, and who believes in heaven, would create. If you do not believe in heaven, you will experience whatever you wish to experience—and the moment you understand that, your wishes will get better and better. And then you will believe in heaven
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by Nobody: 5:11am On Nov 16, 2012
greatgenius: CONTD I keep getting banned but i have to finish what i started so here are the rest of the conversations.

In the time after your “death” you may choose to have every question you ever had answered—and open yourself to new questions you never dreamed existed. You may choose to experience Oneness with All That Is. And you will have a chance to decide what you wish to be, do, and have next.
Do you choose to return to your most recent body? Do you choose to experience life again in human form, but of another kind?
Do you choose to remain where you are in the “spirit world,” at the level you are then experiencing? Do you choose to go on, go further, in your knowing and experiencing? Do you choose to “lose your identity” altogether and now become part of the Oneness?
What do you choose? What do you choose? What do you choose?
Always, that is the question I will be asking you. Always, that is the inquiry of the universe. For the universe knows nothing except how to grant your fondest wish, your greatest desire. Indeed, it is doing that every moment, every day.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3



why are you getting banned? They don't like the information?
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by greatgenius: 5:16am On Nov 16, 2012
CONTD
Should you take the third path and submit to the creations of the collective consciousness, you will move very quickly into total acceptance, total peace, total joy, total awareness, and total love, for that is the consciousness of the collective. Then you will become one with the Oneness, and there will be nothing else except That Which You Are—which is All There Ever Was, until you decide that there should be something else. This is nirvana, the “one with the Oneness” experience that many of you have had very briefly in meditation, and it is an indescribable ecstasy.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3

“If you “die” in a state of limited perspective and uncontrolled thoughts, you’ll experience whatever that state brings you, until you don’t want to anymore. Then you’ll “wake up”—become conscious—and start experiencing yourself creating your reality.
You’ll look back at the first stage and call it purgatory. The second stage, when you can have anything you want with the speed of your thought, you’ll call heaven. The third stage, when you experience the bliss of the Oneness, you’ll call Nirvana.”
- Conversations with God, Book 3
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by greatgenius: 5:25am On Nov 16, 2012
ifeness:

why are you getting banned? They don't like the information?
I have no idea. but those who wants and chooses to be "awake" and meant to see and know some of these truths will come across it however the medium anyway so iam are not worried.
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by greatgenius: 6:26am On Nov 16, 2012
ifeness: If someone says he/she died and went to hell. It could be true because he agreed to the fact that hell exist. Not knowing that he created the reality of hell.

Just like the Matrix, nothing exists,but everything we feel and touch are all illusions. Nothing exist,its just the mind working. That is why humans have the ability to be God if they could make use of 100% of their brain and mind power.

This is the main reason why people need to be empowered; which means to remember how powerful they are.

well existence is a simulation which is a secret to many but the truth is that we are all living in the matrix reality. We rarely realize that life is but a sensory illusion that gives experience and learning to thought, and that the only reality itself is thought which is forever evolving.

btw we dont have to BE like God. You cannot be something you are not. trying to be like somethigng or someone means you are not that person or thing but only aspiring to be like them. But the truth is we are all an individuated aspect of the one God. We already are gods. " have i not said that ye are gods". So we dont and there is no need to be like God, because we are god. We only have to realize and Re-member.
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by Bezed(m): 6:40am On Nov 16, 2012
this lengthy write up, like a bunch of rubbish to me.. Its simple, do good you make heaven, do bad you make hell
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by greatgenius: 6:56am On Nov 16, 2012
^^^^ if thats all you got from the reading then fine with me
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by Nobody: 11:44am On Nov 16, 2012
Bezed: this lengthy write up, like a bunch of rubbish to me.. Its simple, do good you make heaven, do bad you make hell

Good and bad/positive and negative creates a balance the universe needs. Just like light cannot exist without darkness,positive and negative will always be married together.

You in particular will go to hell if that is what you have accepted from your pastors.
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by Chubhie: 11:50am On Nov 16, 2012
Thanks for sharing.... Although no one individual can lay claim on 'Truth' or the very nature of things, still makes an interesting read for me.
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by cheddarking(m): 11:56am On Nov 16, 2012
Utter Crap.

How can a person who has NOT died, tell me what will happen after death?

Nobody can tell me what happens after death UNTIL they DIE and come back...


When my dead Grandfather is exhumed and comes to educate me on his expereince, then I'll know...

Till then, please keep your 'pesudo-intellectual' philosophies to yourself...

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Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by greatgenius: 5:23pm On Nov 16, 2012
^^^^ have many not "died" and come back to tell you their experiences? did you believe them? have ascended messengers like sai baba,the Buddha,Krishna etc not walked this earth since the beginning of time to tell you the truth?. did you believe? You instead vilified, persecuted and crucified them. Did God even not send Jesus to you as well. Yet did you not crucify him also? distorted some of his messages and turned it into a religion and confused the masses with it?

my point is that even if your grandfather were to get out from his grave to come tell you the truth you would still find a way to reject the truth because you have hardened your heart to the truth. what makes you think you would not label your grandfather appearance to you as the work of the "devil" or your ever lying imagination playing tricks on you?

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Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by Nobody: 5:26pm On Nov 16, 2012
ifeness: We create space and time with our mind. Time itself doesn't exist.

Everyone has the ability to create hell,suffering with their minds.

Agreeing to an idea means we have given that idea a green light to exist.

All souls are eternal,hence,no beginning and no end.

There are several realities, we have the ability to create unlimited. We shift daily between realities

If some believes hell fire exist,then it will exist for him/her. Why? Because the power of the mind is huge.

very interesting...
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by Nobody: 5:27pm On Nov 16, 2012
cheddarking: Utter Crap.

How can a person who has NOT died, tell me what will happen after death?

Nobody can tell me what happens after death UNTIL they DIE and come back...


When my dead Grandfather is exhumed and comes to educate me on his expereince, then I'll know...

Till then, please keep your 'pesudo-intellectual' philosophies to yourself...


Lol.
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by manmustwac(m): 8:04am On Nov 17, 2012
ifeness:

why are you getting banned? They don't like the information?
Its the spambot that bans you because it perceives what you post as spam. Check the moderarion logs
Re: The Truth About What Happens After Death by Nobody: 2:20am On Nov 18, 2012
cheddarking: Utter Crap.

How can a person who has NOT died, tell me what will happen after death?

Nobody can tell me what happens after death UNTIL they DIE and come back...


When my dead Grandfather is exhumed and comes to educate me on his expereince, then I'll know...

Till then, please keep your 'pesudo-intellectual' philosophies to yourself...


Near-death experiences are the events involving people who have been certified dead and revived as a result of new medical advances. Their bodily functions have all completely ceased. THEY are in effect dead, and their accounts of their highly vivid experiences in that state are a valid indicator of life after death.

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