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Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by pazienza(m): 8:40pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
shymexx: To the north,awolowo was nothing but a traitor who was power hungry,and tried to usurp their govt twice. To the east,he was an epitome of treachery. To the western powers,he was a use and dump that served their purpose to keep nigeria together,they dumped him when he had served this purpose. Let's face it,awolowo is a hero only to yorubas,who he gave substandard free education that gave rise to the high number of touts and almajiri in yorubaland. Well,the guy try sha,it's not easy to deliver a substandard free education,after all,education na education. Hehe! 7 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Dosinspector(m): 8:48pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Is ur great grand mother awolowo or awolofu's wife? |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by dayokanu(m): 8:58pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
pazienza: To the north,awolowo was nothing but a traitor who was power hungry,and tried to usurp their govt twice. Well no one in Igbo lineage and ancestry would ever be reverred as Awolowo. Azikwe remains was eaten by his clansmen and his resting place is now in ruins I can give you pictures Ojuku died not less than a year ago and he was already the object of ridicule even from his own family before he died.Ojukus brother took over his wife before he died, His people loved him so much they would even vote for him to be a Senator, Ojuku on his deathbed was abandoned lonely and dumb |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 9:06pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
pazienza: I bet you could have used some of the sub standard education yourself. |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 9:10pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Adichie has just buried her career with Achebe's. Political literature without objectivity is literary suicide. Achebe is a living testimony of such suicide. A word is enough for the wise. 2 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by pazienza(m): 9:13pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Aigbofa: Sorry,i am not a yoruba. I wouldn't want to end up as a tout or almajiri,such things are not acceptable in igboland. Now, go grab your own rat poison,be a good follower for once. Hehe! |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by buchio7(m): 9:20pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
and all u half assed numbskulls r supposed to be d leaders of tomorrow What other proof is needed to show dat dere is somtin fundamentally wroong abt d make up of naija? Achebe wasnt wrong after all |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by pazienza(m): 9:22pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: Adichie has just buried her career with Achebe's. Political literature without objectivity is literary suicide. Achebe is a living testimony of such suicide. A word is enough for the wise. Bla bla bla,Adichie is a world figure,she is going places,her sun is just rising. But, you are a nobody,an anonymous being,full of hate and jealousy,the same character common among your tribesmen. Learn to revere great people and their achievements,that's the igbo way. Hehe! 3 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 9:24pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
pazienza: Hmmm... I'd love to compare the great and erudite Awolowo to Igbo icons, but none of your icons(both dead and alive) has anything on his resume to warrant a direct comparison - the bar is too high for them... You definitely have to be great for your enemies and opponent to despise you and eulogise you at the same time - perhaps, that's why all the enemies of Awolowo(including Achebe, Ojukwu, and Chimanda) can't/couldn't but eulogise him, despite hating his guts... Let me get busy and compare the great icon(my hero) to some of the greatest people ever! - George Washington - hated by the British because of the American revolution but they can't deny the fact that he was the greatest American ever... - Mahatma Gandhi - hated by the British colonialist for his anti-colonial rhetoric but they can't deny the fact that he's probably the most quoted guy ever and one of the greatest men to ever walk this planet. - Mao Zedong - he had his enemies but all his enemies can't deny the fact that he changed China forever. One of the greatest men to ever walk this planet. - Fidel Castro - hated by the West but he changed Cuba forever; a Latin America hero and Angolans will never forget him. One of the greatest men ever! - MLK - had his enemies but even his enemies can't deny the fact that he changed America ever... If Awolowo were an American, or a Briton - he'd be one of the greatest men ever... The best president Nigeria never had! Signed by Obafemi Awolowo... 4 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 9:28pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
^^^^Throw Abraham Lincoln, Winston Churchill, and Malcolm X in there... |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 9:30pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Even in his grave - Awolowo is still larger than life... |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by grandstar(m): 9:33pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
I have never read any of her books or agree with all the points raised here or care about ir. All I do know is that this is a masterpiece. she is a genius with words as Riefenstahl was with pictures |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Desola(f): 9:36pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Crayola1: sorry, I unfortunately don't understand gibberish. Would you mind saying all that in English? Thanks in advance. |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Desola(f): 9:41pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
CHESSBOARD: Hmm...if Awo the great was stupid, I wonder what you would call the great ebubedike ojuiku who fled in damask skirt and blouse complete with 5inch stiletto and cherry lipstick. A word comes to mind...yep, a WUSS!!! That's it, grand commander of the stupidest ethnic stock ever to grace the earth. 2 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 9:47pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Pazienza I had to come back to correct some stuff in my post and you still haven't replied my post.... I want to give you an unauthorised biography of your icon, Nnamdi Azikwe (Ojukwu is irrelevant, biafra war and his pops' wealth made him relevant)... I need a comeback from you to get busy on Nnamdi Azikwe, the most overrated Nigerian ever! |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by dayokanu(m): 9:48pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
pazienza: Maybe you should take your own advice regarding Awolowo |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Ibime(m): 9:56pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Dede1: It is not a great piece by any stretch of imagination. Adichie wrote like someone who intends to curry favor from certain audiences by subtly while intentionally disagreeing with Achebe on the pure facts without proffering any meaningful alternative. I'm disappointed in Adichie (my wife). She's neither here nor there, blowing grammar all over the place with shallow depth. She should apply more wisdom and leave this poisoned chalice of a subject alone before she ruins her goodwill with all Nigerians on both sides of the debate. She just did the literary equivalent of shiiiiing in her own market. Woke Soyinka is loved by all Nigerians because he listens to his conscience rather than prevaricating from A to B. He just speaks his mind and damn the consequences, like "fork all y'all" . . .and all Nigerians love him cos he never lets grammar get in the way of the stark nekked truth. 1 Like |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 10:10pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
pazienza: How exactly is Adichie a world figure? Is it based on fact that she lacks originality as typified in a recycled Ted talk? Or this conjectural crap of hers that's full of stories told by "adults"? Adichie is nothing short of intellectual fraud, a top player in the league created by Philips Emeagwali. The facts are all out there for world to see and appreciate. There is no independent writer who has weighed in on this issue without returning the verdict of culpability on your most revered coward Ojukwu. The facts are clear: a land corridor was proposed which Ojukwu rejected. Awolowo must have informed him to reject it. Airlift was to be made during the day but Ojukwu preferred the night. Awolowo must have advised against the day. It Awolowo that informed Ojukwu to charge landing fees for humanitarian shipments. It was Awolowo's fault that despite personal pleadings against the war, Ojukwu went ahead with declaration of secession. It was Awolowo fault that the greatest army south of Sahara could not feed her citizens. It was Awolowo who planned the coup in which leaders of both Northern and Western regions were killed in cold blood while that of East escaped unhurt and untouched. It was Awolowo who asked Ironsi to decree unitary system and irrevocably destroyed federalism. When the going was good for Igbo, nigeria was sweet, it one naigeriya! It did not occur whether elections were rigged in other regions, whether national representation was not fair, whether indigenisation policy be formulated, whether census figures were falsified? Nothing was happening as long as Igbo were fine and happy. But everything became terrible once the coin flipped. When the coward returned to Nigeria, it was Awolowo who asked him to join NPN and campaigned vigorously against his election. The same Igbo people crying everyday did not even vote for their hero. It was Awolowo who asked Ojukwu to swallowed his pride without shame and collected pensions as a colonel, not as fake general he called himself while running the illusion called Biafra. It was Awolowo who asked Azikiwe to defect to Nigerian side during the war. It was Awolowo who engineered everything wrong with Igbo in today's Nigeria. Igbo are easy to understand: when he speaks, he says the truth, it does not matter if it's patently fallacious, historical perversion or clearly illogical. it remains the truth as long as it is uttered by Igbo. They would even challenge you: did you live during the war? it does not matter that same fellow challenging you is as young as your good self. They would never take the conflicting testimonies of other generals who fought the war as the truth. Independent writers must have been corrupted by Nigerians. But that of Achebe who was the master propagandist during the war is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. When Igbo is appointed, it's based on merit. It did not matter to them that being the VC of UI and Unilag in the heartland of equally educated (if not more) Westerners was far from being meritorious. When Ironsi decree unitary system, it was the right thing to do. But when Gowon cashed in on already decreed unitary system, it was abomination. Adichie and her imaginary "adults" should go and lick their wounds. Victim mentality is ravaging alaigbo today with reckless abandon. When you defeat folks suffering from superiority complex, this is what you get: everlasting lamentations. They blame you for defeating them. They hate you for screwing their fathers' ball, for giving their ladies to mercenaries to hit very hard, for making it abundantly clear to them that they amount to nothing. They can not manage defeat, they are unable to do unsentimental independent assessment, they can't just hold their failed leaders accountable. They always blame the victor for nothing else but landing an excruciating defeat on their miserable moronic thinking faculties. 5 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Ngodigha1(m): 10:15pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Prof Corruption:Monkey, and who the hell are you?. Adichie we all know |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 10:16pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Ngodigha1: Una neva jam! |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Ngodigha1(m): 10:17pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Ibime:She was not on any side of the division. That is good. |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by chloride6: 10:43pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Katsumoto: Just want to pick a few holes in Adichie’s knowledge and analytical ability. This na the truest yarn 4 2day 2 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by musak27: 10:45pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
i am a yoruba muslim ,bt i cant deny dat ACHEBE my hero is sayin d truth. d tot of d injustice to eastners angers mi. 2 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by dayokanu(m): 10:51pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
musak27: i am a yoruba muslim ,bt i cant deny dat ACHEBE my hero is sayin d truth. d tot of d injustice to eastners angers mi. Hi Musa, Is your name also tomakint aka Andre uweh? 1 Like |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 10:52pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
musak27: i am a yoruba muslim ,bt i cant deny dat ACHEBE my hero is sayin d truth. d tot of d injustice to eastners angers mi. Na today? Tomakint aka tomafraud. 1 Like |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by pazienza(m): 10:52pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
shymexx: Castrol shelved his people from western exploitation,gave them freedom. Washinghton,saved the USA from the brits,gave them freedom. Mao,emancipated china from poverty and placed them on route to world dominance,he equally helped them gain freedom. Ghandi. Fought against british imperialism,and sought for freedom of india. Awolowo. Helped the british to maintain it's stranghold on nigeria,served the purpose of the british imperialism,yolked his yoruba tribe to a banana republic,a "geographical expression",when he had the option of gaining true freedom and emancipation for them. Ojukwu, fought for his people's freedom from a colonial imperial power,backed by ussr and egypt. 2 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by pazienza(m): 11:09pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
From ghandi,mao,washington,castro,ojukwu, we noticed one pattern: They all fought against imperial powers . But in Awolowo,we saw a man who aligned himself with the interest of an imperial power(britain) and her allies,USSR and egypt,when he had the opportunity to fight for the independence of his people,from an unholy union cobbled by an imperial power to serve her purpose,and not the purpose of the occupants. What kind of leader fights for the unity of a country he later in his dying days,called a mere geographical expression,surely a shortsighted leader. |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 11:14pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
pazienza:[/s] Nah, Awolowo was at the forefront of the fight against colonialism in Nigeria and the struggle for independence... He was also at the 5th Pan African congress held in Manchester in 1945(that was where the struggle for independence in Africa began)... The other attendees include: W. E. B. Du Bois, Hastings Banda, Kwame Nkrumah, Jomo Kenyatta etc.. Awolowo transformed and educated more than two generation through his free universal primary health and education... He built the first skyscraper in Africa; first modern stadium in Africa; first TV station in Africa; and ran the best civil service in Nigeria at that point in Nigeria's history(arguably the best ever).. He also saved the Yorubas from Biafran invasion(bwahahaha) - and won the war for the Nigerian side without borrowing a penny... 4 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 11:23pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
But how come Nigerians don't celebrate their best brains? Ben Okri is a better writer than both Achebe and Chimamanda combined, but I hardly ever read anything about him on Nigerian blogs... Is it because he was born in the UK? These other two clowns are overrated as fvck, to be honest! 1 Like |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by pazienza(m): 11:27pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
shymexx: [/s] He won the war for who? Who was the invisible hand behind nigeria during the war? To whose purpose was it that nigeria remained one? Had one nigeria been more beneficial to yoruba race than an independent odualand would have been. The truth is bitter,but it must be told. Awo was a shortsighted leader, he fought for the unity of a country he later found out was a mere geographical expression,if this isn't shortsightedness,then what would we call it? He aligned himself with the interest of an imperial power ie britain and her ally USSR. That's not what great leaders do,great leaders are freedom fighters and their interest often are in conflict with that of imperialists. Awo delivered odualand into the hand of imperialists,when he had the chance to fight for their freedom. 3 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by tomakint: 11:37pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
Prof Corruption:I never knew you are a lecturer in the 'Almajiri School of Dayokanu' the moment a Fellow Yorubaman see things differently from your warped views you immediately label him an 'outcast' I tot u were intelligent but I was wrong 'processor of corruption' 1 Like |
Re: Chinua Achebe At 82: 'We Remember Differently' - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie by Nobody: 11:42pm On Nov 26, 2012 |
pazienza: He won the war for the Nigerian side and Biafra was "incorporated" back into Nigeria... He had to do what he did at that time to save his people from Biafra invasion... We definitely couldn't afford to live under servitude by a lesser tribe in all ramifications(no pun intended)... Whether it's the right choice today, or not - that's debatable.... However, it was the right choice at that time.... And he never aligned himself with the imperial power - he did what he had to do to save his people from Biafran invasion... You definitely can't leave your abode and region - and take your war to the next man's region, that's unacceptable... I would have done the same thing... When the North and East were in bed together enjoying their rosy friendship, how come Igbos never remembered the Yorubas? You did everything possible to destroy the same people you're whining about today with your Northern "frenemies" - and locked up the same man you've continued to blame for your woes for no reason whatsoever... Awolowo was fair on Igbos, to be honest... 2 Likes |
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