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Re: My Nigeria Experience by Afam4eva(m): 11:20am On Nov 28, 2012 |
bigfat: Nigeria a developing and CAN NEVER BE COMPARED TO DEVELOPED COUNTRIES ...Someone got shot in the eye for making this kind of comment in China. is that an excuse of the blatant corruption that exists in Nigeria? is that the reason why people will be given less than what they bargained for? It's because of people like you that this country is the way it is. |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by Afam4eva(m): 11:23am On Nov 28, 2012 |
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Re: My Nigeria Experience by emiye(m): 11:38am On Nov 28, 2012 |
^^^ Of recent,anytime i am reading comments and i see statements like " shot in the eye" " shot in the nose" " shot in the head" " shot in the leg" , I see your moniker. Is there something else upstaging you? |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by PBundles(m): 11:50am On Nov 28, 2012 |
Da Mayor: My Mayor and THIS is the MAIN problem that Nigeria faces. NO ACCOUNTABILITY. It is because of your frank and honest post that I even thought of responding. There is a disease that is destroying that country and can be seen in every level, rich/poor, educated/uneducated, north/south. I have labelled it DTMTT (DONT TELL ME THE TRUTH). This disease is one which if you see what is wrong DONT SAY IT: WHY, you will be labelled a rebel, non Nigerian, not patriot, an insulter, enemy of progress, how dare you, do you know who I am, you must be Yoruba, Ibo, Hausa and the list goes on. And its because of this disease the leaders are able to do what they do, because this disease allows for no accountability. Hence the Police/Army can not be told they are wrong, politicians cant be told they are wrong, actually who can be told they are wrong without it not being seen as an insult. Due to this, as you rightfully pointed out, we have become use to accepting bronze (not even silver forget about gold). Here is question I want every Nigerian to ask and answer honestly: Would you mind if your President stole some money or had corrupt cronies BUT at least helped the people/masses? I can guarantee you that 99% of Nigerians will see NO PROBLEM WITH THIS! And there lies the issue. Men, would you marry a woman that said I will do all you ask and be the perfect wife BUT every now and then I will sleep outside? Got you thinking know, the grey matter is warm right. We have gotten to the point that we will accept the bare minimum. Shame on us, because if you ask this of an American or European they will say irrevocably without blinking HELL NO WAY! That is his job. Are we not surprised that most want to enter government, NOT to improve the situation but because it can lead to personal success. Nigeria leads the list of buyers of private jets mainly by Governors, while their indigenes can barely survive let alone ask for safety and freedom. We have senators that make more than the damn president of the United States for God Sake. For those that say well MR BIG MOUTH what are YOU doing to change it, I say I cant do ANYTHING and nor can any other person UNTIL the tide changes. Until the masses declare enough is enough. There will be a revolution take my word. Whether it will be bloody or not time will tell. I may not even live to witness it though I pray I do, what a sight that will be. That Nigerians STOP thinking they are not valuable enough to deserve the up most best and DEMAND such from that great country. 3 Likes |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by DaMayor1: 12:04pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
PBundles: Lol! @ DTMTT. Indeed it's also been displayed on this forum. About settling for Bronze, you couldnt have said it any better. 2 Likes |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by otondo55: 1:59pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Good write up....the solution remains the power of The Nigerian people to choose what they really want.
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Re: My Nigeria Experience by gbokukueba(m): 2:27pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
@Poster, I felt exactly the same way when i visited home last month and my heart continues to bleed for Nigeria... to the point that my Ghanain colleague say so many things that are not working bout Nigeria and it so distasteful.. |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by pharuk: 2:30pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Couldnt read past the second line... Post too LONG, c`mon people |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by dayokanu(m): 2:46pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Omo this thing long oo |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by Nobody: 3:33pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
SO ALL THOSE FINE PICTURES I SEE OF LAGOS AND THE MALLS AND LEKKI AND BANANA ISLAND AND MAGODO AND TINUBU SQUARE AND THE AIR CONDITIONED BUSES AND THE BUS LANES ETC ETC, ALL NA FILM TRICK I HAVE BEEN HAD BAMBOOZLED HOODWINKED DISCOMBOBULATED AND DECIEVED 2 Likes |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by DaMayor1: 3:45pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
obadiah777: SO ALL THOSE FINE PICTURES I SEE OF LAGOS AND THE MALLS AND LEKKI AND BANANA ISLAND AND MAGODO AND TINUBU SQUARE AND THE AIR CONDITIONED BUSES AND THE BUS LANES ETC ETC, ALL NA FILM TRICK I HAVE BEEN HAD BAMBOOZLED HOODWINKED DISCOMBOBULATED AND DECIEVEDHi Obadiah, dont get me wrong. Some of the pictures are indeed genuine. However the problem is more of a system disfunction. You provide "air conditioned busses (Which im yet to see lol!) without good roads to drive them on. Build shopping mall without parking space, Establish Banana Island without good water transport (Oops i forgot, na private jet dey reign), build castles in the midst of abject poverty, etc...Our problems need tailor cut solutions and not copy and paste. |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by otokx(m): 3:50pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
@da mayor you have not seen anything yet, Lagos is heaven where some other places like Port Harcourt, Warri, etc are, the mediocrity of Nigerians has so overwhelmed the populace they do not see beyond their noses. ACN is no different from PDP, its just that they have a lot of the media in their pocket. |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by 1forall: 4:00pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
This is for discerning minds please. The articulation of the writing is commendable, it was a great post which made enjoyable reading while effectively passing its message. However, disappointment was quick to follow as I began to read the comments which drew me back to the Nigerian reality. The extent of the rot in our society today is that citizens have become 'stockholm syndromed' i.e hostages have become sympathetic with the cause of their captors and are doing what they can to see the captors achieve their purpose. I know we Nigerians have great capacity to think, but the ever-present and increasingly hard problems we face have warped our thinking. Hence the average Nigerian mind is ignorant, dysfunctional and operating in denial; focusing on that dim, distant hope that he too can 'make it' and join the band of those who have tormented him for so long. What more do you need to confirm this than the kind of comments made here about the good effort by the original poster to illustrate truths of the Nigerian situation and the results of our sustained inaction? Many of the time such comments come from those who profit from the national mess which is, sadly, understandable. But there is also a category of such cynics who are actually right in the thick of the storm and who daily live the struggles of being Nigerian and you wonder, can they not see how the system is rapingg us? It tells you the degree of captivity this situation has forced on us because the problems have taken deep root. Nigerian governments have strategically been dis-educating (apologies to Pius Adesanmi) the Nigerian citizen for decades. Our educational institutions have been left to rot and its no wonder that private Nigerian citizens spent ₦160b (more than the national budget for education) on education in Ghana in 2011, that we've spent even more in Europe and USA over the years, that we now have Nigerians studying in Turkey, Poland, Ukraine, Malaysia etc, that illiteracy figures have forever remained sky high, that education no longer holds the attraction it used to, that the youth are as you say; hopeless in the midst of opportunity, and that the average mind appears to reason upside down these days. It is a powerful strategic tool that governments have used to mentally disenfranchise citizens, afterall only those who are educated and know better can demand their rights and clamor against injustice. A dis-educated citizenry is the perfect playground for perpetual corruption and successive Nigerian governments have never taken that lightly. So, when you read a cynical comment laden with ignorance do not take it personal as it is just one of the outcomes of the systemic dis-education of the Nigerian. I'll leave you with a few words from the literary genius of Pius Adesanmi: "If we cannot look up to the Nigerian educational system as a partner in the struggle for national rebirth – those who fund it will never allow this – what is to be done? Methinks that Nigerian activists and intellectuals need to start thinking extremely seriously about the option of public pedagogy. We have to look beyond formal institutions to instruct and educate our people. We have to take civics to the streets, to social media, to Molue buses, to paraga joints. We have to meet Nigerians where they are. This would involve painstaking planning and networking. It would require dedicated intellects willing to brainstorm and strategize. Once we agree that public pedagogy is an option we need to consider very seriously, conceptualization and planning could follow. In the end, every citizen we gain who no longer identifies with his own oppressor, even if the oppressor is his ethnic kinsman - is one giant step for Nigeria. With public pedagogy and instruction, we can begin to undo the psychological injury that the oppressor has done to our Stockholm Syndromed compatriots and begin the process of taking Nigeria back one mind at a time." 1 Like |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by DaMayor1: 4:06pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
otokx: @da mayor Thats why i kept my observations mostly to Lagos since thats my domain. Maybe if i travelled to these places I could comment further. Youre spot on about the mediocrity. I watched the flood saga unfold and all i heard was distribution of money. Not one talk about technical solutions. Take for instance hurricane sandy that struck the US coast lately. while there were relief materials distributed, most effort was spent on Huge pumps all around the city pumping water out to sea, and reinforvement of dikes. In our case we were waiting for water to recede while sharing money (billions) in the name of "relief material". |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by otokx(m): 4:09pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
@da mayor do take out time to read the blog in my signature line, it will give you a picture of the real deal going down in Nigeria. |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by DaMayor1: 4:24pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
1forall: This is for discerning minds please. Thanks for the compliments. Your analysis of the situation is surgical with deadly precision. EDUCATION is the key. The leaders are scared of this, as they need look no further than 'Animal farm' to know the consequence of an educated populace. |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by otokx(m): 4:33pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
I beg to differ with regards to education; if you go about Nigeria with the sense of i know my rights nobody can oppress me, educated air, you will just wake up in the next world and nobody will even remember that you are no more. What we need is a revolutionary leader who got the military in his pocket. |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by DaMayor1: 4:44pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
otokx: I beg to differ with regards to education; if you go about Nigeria with the sense of i know my rights nobody can oppress me, educated air, you will just wake up in the next world and nobody will even remember that you are no more. What we need is a revolutionary leader who got the military in his pocket. Lol! Otokx. I mean no disrespect when i say this line of reasoning is a by-product of the Nigerian situation. lol!! The military is what it is "The military". To defend territory against 'External aggressors'. Police is for internal issues. So you see, you reinforce 1forall's view. Its due to lack of education they do not know their place. We realy have to stop depending on them and praying for a coup as some do. They got us in this mess in the first place. |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by OkikiOluwa1(m): 5:11pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
I m still wondering where the Subsidy Probe, Power Probe, Police Pension Probe etc will end. Fuel is still been sold for N105/litre in my area. The thing wan tire me. |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by Godogwu: 5:24pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Da Mayor: It was meant to be a pleasant trip back home after a while abroad. As with everyone in my shoes I was quite excited, especially after all I’d heard (I emphasize ‘heard’) about gallant strides made by Mr. Goodluck Jonathan (representing the Federal Republic of Nigeria) and Mr. Babatunde Raji Fashola (representing Lagos State Government). And so I got on a plane, destination Nigeria, all smiles on my face. Well, I didn’t have to leave Murtala Muhammed International Airport (MMIA) before those smiles began to whither. T Dudeeee!!!! This is utter rubbish! and please stay back wherever you are next time aii. Like!, imagine the ode! You didnt see anything good in Nigeria?, you must live in heaven then..... ( '_') 1 Like |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by DaMayor1: 5:45pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Godogwu: I completely understand your frustration and sympathise with you, really. As they say, "if you cant debate them, smear them". A technique employed by the Nigerian govt, hence it is not unlikely it rubbed off on some. 1 Like |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by Revolva(m): 6:06pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
@poster wow your post is so long I got tired of reading but I must confess you said the right thing but not in a right manner- Lagos of today is far more better and improved than lagos of 8years ago - were you not in lagos when there were molue at every corner even oshodi under bridge was a mess, no street signs no traffic lights no road sweepers - oga I beg o suffry siffry dey diss lagos oya enter ekiti state you. Will call lagos london lol 1 Like |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by 1forall: 6:10pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Da Mayor: Something to laugh about at least |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by DaMayor1: 6:14pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Revolva: @poster wow your post is so long I got tired of reading but I must confess you said the right thing but not in a right manner- You are right. There's been improvements here and there especially environmentally which i rightly pointed out in my post. However i leave you to digest on this, this, "The view of the earth by a soaring Eagle is different from that of a flying Chicken". |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by 1forall: 6:36pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Godogwu: There's a native saying I grew up hearing which goes 'A child thinks his father's farm is the largest until he visits his friend's father's farm'. I have hypothetically said many times to friends that one way (although not practical) to accelerate the Nigerian revolution would be to take the masses, all 112 million of them, to developed nations to live for a short period of time just enough for them to take in how such societies are built, how they work and how citizens are generally regarded. The arrangement would be such that EVERY one of them would return back to Nigeria. My brother, a revolution with maximum violence would commence immediately they return as people suddenly realize they'd been rammed up the asss with wooden stakes all their lives lol. 1 Like |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by DaMayor1: 6:47pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
1forall:LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @ MAXIMUM VIOLENCE |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by Nobody: 6:58pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Cyberknight: Paris's Charles de Gaulle is virtually a cityhmmm Paris CDG, that airport should be listed as one of the man made wonders in this world and a national treasure to France...kilode. |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by ryom(m): 7:08pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
@OP- very well said. Very well said. It is difficult to fathom where we start from to fix this nation of ours. Some say fix it from top down. If we have a saint for president, what about the other arms of government? Will they not hound him? What about the ministers and directors who will simply saboteur his/her good intentions? If we say to fix it from bottom up, go back to primary schools to establish proper educational foundations, where are the hands to ensure this? We are quick to blame leadership, but followership is just as much in dire need of reform. The average Nigerian is generally not a keen reader. Someone had said if you want to hide a thing from the African, put it in a book! Changing the mindset requires reading. Reading about change. Reading about how people who achieved change did it. I have read the Singapore story (Lee Kuan Yew), I don't know how many Nigerians have. But he successfully transformed his country, today one of the few debt free countries on earth. Years of degradation now means many of our people now accept mediocrity for excellence. Someone mentioned the Stockholm syndrome. It still boils downtown how we can change the mindset. It will not be easy but it is possible. When malignancy has taken such foothold, curing it requires great care and delicate handling otherwise the host will perish with the disease. The Nigerian question will require a multidimensional approach. A good man at the top (like Lee Kuan Yew), a mindset change emphasis from the religious polity, same from traditional rulers(why are they not called traditional leaders?), schools, especially from bottom up. There is also a need to empower the people. The various human rights organisations can strengthen their vanguard function by guiding foreign NGOs to support programmes that will genuinely empower the people. So, graduated mechanised farming for instance, not necessarily high tech, but beyond hoe and cutlass. Home building and construction using locally available resources. Various aspects of craftsman ships. Things that will genuinely empower the people so they don't hero worship their leaders that much. There are other ideas but I've go to keep this short. 1 Like |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by Nobody: 7:15pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
1forall:True, I was formerly a "dont say anything bad about my country or I kick u in d ass" over patriotic Nigerian. Well, I stepped my foot on European soil and it dawned on that Nigeria had been developing in the negative direction. 1 Like |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by ryom(m): 7:27pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
It looks like there is a pseudo-dichotomy on this thread, I don't think my brothers and sisters at home should pick issues with those who have been privileged to travel to lands yonder. The truth is sometimes it takes seeing the other side to appreciate a need for change. I remember once I took my car to a mechanic in a city in S/West , and while chit chatting with the car electrician, I told of my sojourn to the lands beyond the seas. I mentioned how power supply was so constant to which he replied 'ha ha oga, NEPA no dey there?' To this my dear friend it was inconceivable that there will be no black out! So naturally he doesn't expect his govt to provide it. 1 Like |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by DaMayor1: 7:32pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
ryom: It looks like there is a pseudo-dichotomy on this thread, I don't think my brothers and sisters at home should pick issues with those who have been privileged to travel to lands yonder. The truth is sometimes it takes seeing the other side to appreciate a need for change. I remember once I took my car to a mechanic in a city in S/West , and while chit chatting with the car electrician, I told of my sojourn to the lands beyond the seas. I mentioned how power supply was so constant to which he replied 'ha ha oga, NEPA no dey there?' To this my dear friend it was inconceivable that there will be no black out! So naturally he doesn't expect his govt to provide it. Such has been displayed on this thread as well. As i quoted, earlier, "The view of the earth by a soaring Eagle is different from that of a flying Chicken" |
Re: My Nigeria Experience by Godogwu: 7:43pm On Nov 28, 2012 |
Da Mayor: LOL, i can only laugh.... Frankly im not your type that virtually lives on nairaland but i dont have a class now so lets have fun for a bit aii. Look at the pictures on this other thread and tell me which lagos you actually went to, that leaving the airport there were numerous pot holes and all that funny stuff you said. https://www.nairaland.com/1114951/growing-beauty-lagos-pics |
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