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Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by plaetton: 4:22pm On Mar 04, 2013 |
Lord_Reed: @plaetton You just contradicted yourself.First you accuse me of watching films and reading too many books. You said the power in the name of jesus does not follow that process. Well, what process does it follow? Then at the end you say those of you who believe the name of jesus is salvation and pillar of strenght in time of need.... So you do believe that there is a power that resonates with that name.? main question is : Is there power in the name of Jesus? Yes or no? I dont know about you, But from infancy, must of us have been made to believe and accept that there is power in the name of Jesus. If you doubt this, go to any church and listen. Since we now know that JESUS is simply a derivative of the original name, my questions are: 1. Does anyone know that original name given to him by his momma and papa? 2. Did Isaiah prophecy not claim that " he shall be called Emmanuel"? So why was he not named Emmanuel? 3. If there is power in the original name, as we assume there would be, should we also assume that such power would also reside in the name jesus, the generic version of his original name? I have argued that this cannot be the case. In Jewish and most of ancient mysticism, Holy names are sacred specially configured letters and vowels with a special numerical value, much like a musical octave. So yes, you can call it a spell or a talisman. A holy name was a reservior of latent power, to be only invoked sparingly, and in worthiness. 1 Like |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by kabiyesiii(m): 4:14am On Mar 05, 2013 |
The original name of "Jesus Christ" is Yehoshua Ben Joseph The "Christ" is the Hellenized corruption of Krishna, the black one. The earlier images of "Jesus & Mary" were of Jet Black in complexion. |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by LordReed(m): 8:25am On Mar 05, 2013 |
plaetton: I in no way contradicted myself. Lemme recap my post. I said that you seem to think that Jesus' name is like a chant or a spell along the lines of the magics or juju of popular movies, it is not. Faith is the operating factor. The power is not intrinsic to the name. Transliterations of the name will still work because of faith not because you called the name. Those of us who believe are not practicing Jewish mysticism when we call the name. The authority we wield with that name is similar to when a letter signed by the President is presented, it does not matter whether you the presenter knows the full or original name of the President as long as you have a valid signature you are covered. The name Emmanuel was not going to be His "name" rather it was going to show a "function" , God with us. Jesus said when He resurrected "I will be with you till the end of the age", that is the Emmanuel. Do not confuse the power in the name of Jesus with mysticism. 2 Likes |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by kabiyesiii(m): 6:56pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us. ~ Pope Leo X |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by plaetton: 5:33am On Mar 06, 2013 |
Lord_Reed: So If in a chruch service, a new-age pastor decides to replace the name Jesus with "Orkija Juju, everything remains the same, so long as he is visualising a white skinned man? |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by LordReed(m): 8:32am On Mar 06, 2013 |
plaetton: You are still getting it wrong. Faith is not about visualizing a "white skinned man" neither is Orkija Juju a valid transliteration. All you seem to be focused on is the magic sequence of popular fiction. To understand the power in the name you must understand the "process" of faith. Stop equating the name of Jesus to spells, incantations and new age practices. 2 Likes |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by donchido(m): 9:00pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
ur head dey dere joor
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Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by donchido(m): 9:08pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
mr man ur just using style to advertise your atheism........ 2 bad ....... smh DeepSight: |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by donchido(m): 9:19pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
he is not doing that the truth is that u do not just want to agree with him, his points are clear even to a unborn person " :0 LordReed: |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by Nobody: 11:24pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
plaetton: Where does the scripture establish this formulae? Oh Hebrew mysticism? I thought u were serious. |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by plaetton: 11:37pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
JMAN05: To maintain integrity of the scriptures. |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by Nobody: 11:58pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
plaetton: Edited pls. |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by plaetton: 1:34am On Jun 17, 2015 |
JMAN05: Isn't the bible a book of hebrew history, legends, mythologies and religion? Is the bible an African book or a book of ancient Judaism? 2 Likes |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by LordReed(m): 8:53am On Jun 17, 2015 |
donchido: Since it is clear to the unborn, elucidate on his point. |
Re: The Real Name Of Jesus: Power In The Name Or Power In The Myth? by Nobody: 12:51pm On Jun 17, 2015 |
plaetton: U are still far. |
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