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Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:11pm On Apr 19, 2013 |
[quote author=KidStranglehold] Bantu is JUST a language group. Just like Afro-Asiatic is just a language group. Bantu speakers are diverse just like Afro-Asiatic speakers. Some 'Bantu' people look like this: [img]http://1.bp..com/-a2ifEXP9hao/URBehBcKWBI/AAAAAAAAAmc/v44gop4qYqU/s1600/kagame.jpg[/img] While some Afro-Asiatic speakers could look like this: The 1st pic is President of Rwanda, Mr. Kgame. He might be a Bantu speaker but ethnically he is Tutsi, more closely related to the pastoral Nilotes. You are right when you say that it is wrong to base everything on language, however in Africa, it so happens that in most cases, the people who speak langauges of the same family are from closer related ethnic groups.
but there are certainly many other genetic markers other than E1b1a right? isnt the phenotype also a result of the genotype? how else do you explain the differences, apart from external factors? as for the E1b1a it has mutated which is why there are so many varied sub-haplogroups. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:16pm On Apr 19, 2013 |
CAMEROONPRIDE: Bantu are both.... sorry bro. I know its annoying. Just imagine , I keep receiving useless notifications from that Onila. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by Nobody: 11:17pm On Apr 19, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: It is all right bro, I enjoy reading you...tho this topic doesn't interest me that much. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:18pm On Apr 19, 2013 |
CAMEROONPRIDE: it doesnt interest me as well. just putting forth some points of note. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by Nobody: 11:19pm On Apr 19, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: No I just try to back up my claims with facts. My whole argument was never meant to claim the Ancient Egyptians or say they are black...My point was that they indigenous Africans no different from their neighboring Africans like Nile Saharan speakers and Afro-Asiatic speakers. Trust me I have debated with Afrocentrics like Clyde Winters, when he was claiming the Ancient Chinese were black. When I say genetically African, it does not MEAN I am saying they are black. 'Black' is just a made up social term. Look there are people of SouthEast Asian called the Negritos who look no different than your stereotypical African, yet they carry no African genes at all. This is why I said we DO NOT use terms such as black or Negroid when addressing genetics. Because its flawed. Skin color is color. Fulani peopke are genetically African yet I heard many of their African neighbors consider them white. S.O.Y. Keita touches base on what I am saying and about African diversity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4sbLY6rxxg&list=FLOi5yL1B9aLEWSTjyIwcWLw PAGAN 9JA:Correct I did. I only said "Would the Ancient Egyptians be considered black by todays standard?" Which was me just speculating. Yes environment does play an effect, Notice how people of the temperate zone are usually lighter toned like the Khosian people. Africa is the only continent which has two temperate zones. PAGAN 9JA: I was just pointing out that King Ramses III carried an African clade. I agree that some Africans split a part and some Africans are more related to others compared to others. But all Africans(minus the non indigenous Africans) are all binded together via pn2clade and all Africans have a more recent ancestor. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:21pm On Apr 19, 2013 |
^ Correct. well and good. Its not as recent as you talk but otherwise you are on point. I apologise for the insults. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by Nobody: 11:22pm On Apr 19, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: No problem. I was being a dickhead too. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by somalia9: 1:08am On Apr 20, 2013 |
afro asiatic is a language jews and arabs speak afroasiatic language |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by Nobody: 1:10am On Apr 20, 2013 |
somalia9: afro asiatic is a language You you please post the most deadliest and successful Somali warriors in this thread. https://www.nairaland.com/1263616/deadliest-black-african-warriors Thanks. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by somalia9: 1:16am On Apr 20, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: change the thread to african warriors and take out black |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by Nobody: 1:21am On Apr 20, 2013 |
somalia9: I put 'African/Black'... |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by somalia9: 1:28am On Apr 20, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: ok |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by Soliloqyofchaos: 2:19am On Apr 20, 2013 |
You are truly amazing kidstranglehold. Alot of the arguments you made are very similiar to what i would have said. You even managed to calm both the raging pagan and the somalian dunce down. Truly remarkable feat. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by somalia9: 2:23am On Apr 20, 2013 |
Soliloqyofchaos: You are truly amazing kidstranglehold. Alot of the arguments you made are very similiar to what i would have said. You even managed to calm both the raging pagan and the somalian dunce down. Truly remarkable feat. why are u talking to urself? i know this is ur other username...i saw it when u were complaining to the mods that your post was hidden also its SOMALI not somalian. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by Soliloqyofchaos: 2:27am On Apr 20, 2013 |
You lack basic reading comprehension if you did not notice that I had used kidstranglehold's name in my post. If you did not know, I will educate you. When you put someone's name in your post, it means that you are addressing them either directly or indirectly. Specifically the context I used, which stated "you are truly amazing" provided more than enough for even the most simple minded person to comprehend that I was speaking to him. Do you now understand? I am not frustrated with you, it just seems that you need education. Do not feel bad. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by Nobody: 2:29am On Apr 20, 2013 |
Soliloqyofchaos: You are truly amazing kidstranglehold. Alot of the arguments you made are very similiar to what i would have said. You even managed to calm both the raging pagan and the somalian dunce down. Truly remarkable feat. Thanks. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by somalia9: 3:01am On Apr 20, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: dude everyone knows ur talking to urself |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by Nobody: 3:11am On Apr 20, 2013 |
somalia9: Not really. |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by Soliloqyofchaos: 3:20am On Apr 20, 2013 |
I thought you were being kiddish and said it like "stop talking to yourself". But you actually meant me and kid are the same person? How embarrassing for you |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by member3(m): 2:31am On Sep 25, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: fake africans [img] http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/04/11/world/11saudi.xlarge1.jpg[/img] [img]http://mgpscrazyschoolinagoodway.files./2013/02/bushman.jpg[/img] |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by jantavanta(m): 4:39pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
There was no Arab 2,000 years ago. Arabic & Hebrew are dialects of Ancient Egyptian. Arabic script is evolved Ancient Egyptian Demotic script. The White Arabs are actually Turkish people who expanded during the years of Turkish Ottoman Empire. 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Name "ARAB" A Tribe/ethnicity,a Culture Or A Confederation? by PAGAN9JA(m): 5:29pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
^we are not talking of the levants a.k.a 'white blue eyed arabs'. The pure Arabs lie in the Gulf states stretching down to Yemen. 2 Likes |
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