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Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by pastorking(m): 8:18am On Mar 15, 2008 |
So even in America, there is this dirty "Religious Politics" http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/13/barackobama.hillaryclinton
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Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by almondjoy(f): 10:28am On Mar 15, 2008 |
Well, he will have to deal with that too. What a pastor. In as much as I do not believe in guilty by association. I wonder how he would have gone to a church that preaches these kinds of things for over 20 years. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Much ado about nothing really. But knowing "white" Americans. . .they will definitely milk this one. I personally will never allow any person to preach to me unless we have the same views. I really do not know what to make of this. Well let us hear what he has to say or write about this. Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown. I wish him well! It could go either way. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by princeonx: 3:27pm On Mar 15, 2008 |
Its funny how he's being judged by everything around him. His background, school/lived in indonesia, and so on! At first they said he's a muslim and now he's being one church member for over 20yrs! Politics is one dirty game! I won't be surprise is they come out and say "He's just too black for the white house" |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by Encomium(m): 3:35pm On Mar 15, 2008 |
Obama will still get out of this tight corner been placed on him by his Pastor. Anything can still go as far as politics is concerned. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by RichyBlacK(m): 2:47pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
Pure absolute balderdash! What do those closet racist want Obama to do? Switch church anytime the pastor says anything bad about America? Rubbish!!! America was founded on the evil practice of slavery and many of those so-called founding fathers of America were slave owners! Rubbish! So, if some pastor says this then what? White America needs to wake up from their stupid slumber if they think the 400-year-old scars of slavery, racism, and discrimination will just vanish overnight. The oppressed have every right to be angry about their state of oppression. What were these people thinking? That Obama has been "shielded" from the realities of the racist aspects of America? Nonsense! All those pretenders who keep shouting "separation of Church and State", should remember that tired slogan now! |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by JeSoul(f): 2:56pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
Inasmuch as I don't fancy the way Rev. Wright went about delivering that "sermon" - lets be real, a lotta what he said is true, though I did disagree with a good portion of it too. This is a no-win situation for Obama. So poster you should change the title to "Obama Faces Definate Damage From His Pastor's Comments" Becos if he completely denounces his church and totally contradicts his pastor (or ex-pastor) he will lose the support and admiration of a large percentage of blacks/african-americans who in reality hold the same (or some of the) views of the pastor. On the other hand, if he doesn't completely distance himself from wright, white america will not continue to embrace him as "one of theirs". A no-win situation. . . but maybe he might be able to assuage the |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by Nobody: 3:05pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
Now this is a tight one. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by doyin13(m): 3:13pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
The Pastor na real Alakoba. . . . Akoba Adaba Olorun ma je ka ri oo |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by 4Play(m): 3:25pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
The fact remains that Obama has run his campaign on the basis that he is a uniter who transcends racial and identity politics.Yet,here you find Obama joining and attending a church that thrives on racial polarisation. The Rev,who he calls his spiritual mentor,produces vile sermons that are unbecoming of a Christian clergy man.What is Christian clergy man doing with Louis Farrakhan? Claiming that the AIDS virus was produced by white America and all sorts of kooky nonsense. If Obama wants to be a Black leader in the mold of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson,he is free to belong to any church he wants to.However,if he wants to be the leader of America,you can't belong to an organisation that thrives on racial/identity politics. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by TheSly: 3:36pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
I got ur back Obama. . . . .Do not worry. . .fear no evil. . |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by JayFK(m): 3:38pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
I think he has already distanced himself from the comments his pastor made. Hey but at least with this, no one still thinks he is M'uslim. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by 4Play(m): 3:41pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
JayFK: Distancing himself isn't sufficient.He said this man is his spiritual mentor and personally decided to join this particular church.Does it mean that for those 2 decades,he wasn't aware of the Pastor's incendiary remarks? It is said that he named his book,The Audacity of Hope ,after one of Rev Wright's speeches.All of a sudden,he is seeking distance now that the Rev's remarks have been exposed. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by JayFK(m): 3:48pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
4 Play: I dont think his pastor's comments were a recurring theme in his preachings, they were just made on one occasion. I think he said he wasn't aware his pastor made such remarks. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by JeSoul(f): 4:29pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
did anyone check out his speech? http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_RACE?SITE=WTKKFM&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-03-18-11-16-31 I guess I was wrong to say it was a no-win situation! I think he did a great job of pedalling to both sides and he made it clear that he wasn't turning his back "or distancing" himself from the church or his pastor. Good speech, it should calm a lot of the furor down and hopefully help in both sides understanding each other better. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by RichyBlacK(m): 4:58pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
JeSoul: Excellent speech by Obama! Stand by your church! Stand by your pastor! That does not mean agreeing with every comment made by the pastor. GObama '08!!! |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by doyin13(m): 4:58pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
Hmm. . . . . This man looks like he could sell sand to Sahara dwellers |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by ndubest(m): 4:58pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
Am really fed up of all these accussations and making NEWS out of nothing The next thing we will hear soon is OBAMA'S DOG BITE SOMEONE 20YEARS AGO or OBAMA URINATED ON HIS BED WHEN HE WAS A KID or OBAMA MISSED ONE OF HIS LECTURES DURING HIS SCHOOL DAYS the clinton team is running out of ideas |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by Dreloaded(f): 5:05pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
it's when he wins the nomination that Mccain and co will throw this back in his face, just wait 4 Play: hahahha. anyway his speech might be fine now for opeople to still be against Hiliary but once she's ouyt of the picture, it'll come up again. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by bawomolo(m): 5:48pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
I don't think his pastor's comments were a recurring theme in his preachings, they were just made on one occasion. I think he said he wasn't aware his pastor made such remarks. they weren't made on one compassion, u need to check out the pastors interview on hannity&colmes. the statements stretch 10years. obama must have been dozing off or romancing with michelle obama while in church. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by JayFK(m): 5:54pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
bawomolo: Meh, anyways Obama has set the record straight that he doesn't agree with his pastor's statements. So its all good. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by doyin13(m): 6:03pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
bawomolo: Well he did admit he has heard on many occasions things he disagreed with his pastor But hearing his speech. . . . .He reminds me so much of Churchill for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on why |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by 4Him(m): 6:05pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
pls can anyone summarise his speech this morning? |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by 4Play(m): 6:08pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
doyin13: Churchill was a brave straight-talker.This guy is a smarmy pol who thrives on being all things to all people. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by doyin13(m): 6:08pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
4 Play: I meant his speech making |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by 4Play(m): 6:12pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
doyin13: That was what I was referring to.Churchill's speeches had substance and he often didn't mind whose ox was gored. Obama's best quotes come from speeches or soundbites written for him. Churchill was naturally gifted with wit. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by 4Him(m): 6:13pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
Good speech from the summary. I suppose the anti-Obama bandwagon are back in full force. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by JayFK(m): 6:17pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
doyin13: Obama sounds very much like Ronald Reagan, and that gives me the chills. |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by 4Play(m): 6:19pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
JayFK: WTF? Obama doesn't even sound a tad like Reagan! |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by DRANOEL(m): 6:36pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
obama just lost the race! |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by faketan(m): 6:48pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by doyin13(m): 7:00pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
4 Play: Like I said I can't quite put a finger on it. . .it is more on the delivery of the speech i suppose Obviously contexts are contexts apart. . . . Talking of Churchill. . . .he was witty alright. My fave to Lady Astor "Sir, you're drunk!" "Yes, Madam, I am. But in the morning, I will be sober and you will still be ugly." |
Re: Obama Faces Potential Damage From His Pastor's Comments by 4Play(m): 7:05pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
doyin13: No mind Churchill.Lady Astor wasn't that ugly. http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:1NqAtNfMLnwJ:jssgallery.org/Paintings/Lady_Astor.htm+Churchill+to+Lady+Astor&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk There was another witty exchange with her: Lady Astor said, "Winston, if I were your wife I'd put poison in your coffee." Whereupon Winston said, "Nancy, if I were your husband I'd drink it." 1 Like |
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