This is what it feels like sometimes.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn-ZggPYmvg

Are you the real Anony?

This is quite below him.

How you can take an atheist (Bionic Dance) that even many atheists do not like and then try to make a point?

Mr_Anony2: This is what it feels like sometimes.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn-ZggPYmvg

What is your point?

did anyone make sense out of this?

thehomer:

What is your point?

The absurdity of moral subjectivism

Mr_Anony2:
The absurdity of moral subjectivism

In what sense do you think morality is objective? I ask because you don't seem to realize that there can be objective facts about subjective values.

Another troll thread with no point but to meaninglessly attack atheists.

Trolololo.


Desperate christians

Logicboy03: Another troll thread with no point but to meaninglessly attack atheists.

Trolololo.


Desperate christians

yawn....

thehomer:

In what sense do you think morality is objective? I ask because you don't seem to realize that there can be objective facts about subjective values.

It is precisely because of the bold that I am sure morality is objective even though it is subjectively percieved. Perhaps you should tell me why you think it is totally subjective

Logicboy03: Another troll thread with no point but to meaninglessly attack atheists.

Trolololo.


Desperate christians

It seems as if their imaginary saviour is secretly recruiting some army of trolls

^^^^Lololol, trolling a thread by calling it a troll thread. Oh the irony!

Interesting --- now that I've seen the video.

This thread should be linked to this other one https://www.nairaland.com/1210342/christians-agree

They complement each other and together they make the point beautifully.

Mr_Anony2:
It is precisely because of the bold that I am sure morality is objective even though it is subjectively percieved. Perhaps you should tell me why you think it is totally subjective

That will depend on the concept of subjectivity and objectivity we're using.

e.g is morality objective in the same way 2 + 2 is objectively 4? Or is it objective in the same way that if you love someone, you'll care for them? Or is it objective in the same way that good health is better than poor health?

Is it subjective in the same way that chocolate is better than vanilla? Or that pleasure is better than pain? Or that the better way to treat someone who gives you a slap is to turn the other cheek?

thehomer:

That will depend on the concept of subjectivity and objectivity we're using.

e.g is morality objective in the same way 2 + 2 is objectively 4? Or is it objective in the same way that if you love someone, you'll care for them? Or is it objective in the same way that good health is better than poor health?

Is it subjective in the same way that chocolate is better than vanilla? Or that pleasure is better than pain? Or that the better way to treat someone who gives you a slap is to turn the other cheek?

I'll leave you to make the clarifications. So what sort of subjectivity do you apply to morality?

Mr_Anony2:
I'll leave you to make the clarifications. So what sort of subjectivity do you apply to morality?

The type that pleasure is better than pain.

thehomer:

The type that pleasure is better than pain.

Is your argument therefore that actions that lead to pleasure are morally better than actions that lead to pain?

thehomer:

The type that pleasure is better than pain.

and if your pleasure will plead to someone else's pain, what then?

Mr_Anony2:
Is your argument therefore that actions that lead to pleasure are morally better than actions that lead to pain?

No, it is that the idea of subjectivity being used matters in the discussion.

F00028:

and if your pleasure will plead to someone else's pain, what then?

Then it leads to their pain. What is your point?

thehomer:
Then it leads to their pain. What is your point?

that's your 'morality' ?

F00028:

that's your 'morality' ?

Just keep quiet if you have no point

F00028:

that's your 'morality' ?

Wow. Just wow.

Logicboy03:
Just keep quiet if you have no point

tut tut tut just cos you dont see something, it doesn't mean it's not there.
...maybe be you oughtta shut up.

thehomer:

No, it is that the idea of subjectivity being used matters in the discussion.

You lose me my friend, perhaps a little bit more clarity might help

Mr_Anony2:
You lose me my friend, perhaps a little bit more clarity might help

What don't you understand? Is it that the idea of subjectivity being used is important or that what I presented was an example of subjectivity that has to first be agreed upon for the discussion to proceed?