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Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by PENMIGHT(m): 8:42pm On Apr 08, 2013
The Federal Govt has displayed the highest level of insensitivity , hypocrisy, inconsistency, and utmost injustice by the planned amnesty. When there are two evils, you go for the lesser of the evils. The evils in acheiving a temporary, picturesque peace by granting amnesty to BH is much more than facing the challenge head-long and uproot this scourge no matter the cost in terms of human,physical and monetary needs.

History has a way of repeating itself! And it's high time we profered an efficate solution to the rising state of militancy, agitation and terrorism in Nigeria by setting a firm precedence. The militants just killed 13 policemen! Hmn...Amnesty,true amnesty at work!

Amnesty to Boko Haram means the following-

(1) The FG has always known the BH,their sponsors and they have always used them until 'the going gets awry' and BH became an outcast.- an activitism turned terrorism!

(2) The FG is only paying lip service to security all this while to siphon the votes cos no sane president will go against the advise of the security chiefs on this. It's spiteful and morale-dampnening to the security forces. Galant men lost forever...just like that?

(3) The FG is giving its acceptance of the Islam as practiced by Boko Haram as being the image of Islam and that is injustice to Muslims(dead in the hands of BH and living) and Islam.

(4) The amnesty closes book on justice for those wrongly killed. That turns the FG to an unjust govt that will be hated by the generations of those who will wait without success to get justice but can only vent their anger in the future against Nig. Too bad for Nig to witness cycle of generational vengeance.

(5) The land has been desecrated! Soiled with the blood of the innocent and weak ones. God can only visit us more with His anger. Amnesty is not in the book of God; forgiveness bourne out of fairness and justice is.

(6) Lastly the AMNESTY will fail, the FG will be out of options and that is a justification for Internation forces who ve always shown vested interest in Nig to disintegrate us and ursurp our power.

Politics wise , I am not that insightful but these amongst others are sheer wisperings from my little heart. Just my opinions.....

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Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by sentix(m): 8:45pm On Apr 08, 2013
Reference:

Shoo. Why den no go show off. No be dia oyel. By the way wetin you dey take all dis power do. Abi you too don dey refine crude.

So when I pay my taxes its for Nigeria but when they dey pump oyel 'oil' its their own!
When Nigeria win Nation's Cup its for all of us but when they pipe gas its their own!

Well basically for video editing when power failure is not an option!

ENCODING TAKES TIME!
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by kabba7(m): 8:47pm On Apr 08, 2013
lastpage:

Let us be clear on one thing: Police officers (and l detest those people so much because of their unpatriotic behavior to the poor citizenry) represent the "authority of the constitution" and any attack on any of our armed forces or Govt official in the discharge of their duty, is an attack on the country's sovereignty!
Killing officer "to make a point" is sheer terrorism and should not be mistaken with the original demand or agitation for better services and inclusion in wealth-sharing in the Niger delta.
Those who killed those officers need to be hunted down at all cost...ALL COST!
it has nothing to do with amnesty.

We must understand that if people take innocent life and then hide under amnesty, then we have laid the bed for further blackmail and more killings.
The Govt must draw a line between "wanton, senseless murder and moderate agitation for a just cause".



Amnesty is NOT the solution to a Criminal problem like that of Boko Haram because they do not seek peace, ab initio.


Amnesty is fast becoming a lucrative "business", like Kidnappings!

*BH is not fighting for ANY SOCIAL JUSTICE.

* They want an "Islamic enclave or Total Islamization of Nigeria, a Completely Secular Country"?

If they dont recognize the right of Christians to exist in Nigeria, why must Christians recognize their own right to exist as well? This is the crux of the matter.

*BH Kills indiscriminately while "freedom fighters" would first warn of an impending 'strike' so that ordinary civilians can be evacuated and such casualties limited.
BH is simply a terror organization that must be wiped out by all means necessary.

*BH has no clear objective except to wreak havoc and instil terror into the minds of Nigerians and its government.

*BH should have known that it cannot convert every Nigerian to Islam, even if you kill all Nigerians....thus their killings and bombings will never succeed and its a wanton waste of innocent lives.

*If BH wants political power, let them form an 'Islamic party' and contest elections. if they have the numbers and support, they would (and should) win and gain political power BUT they cant terrorize Nigerians into submission! BIG MISTAKE!!

*BH are not "Ghosts" but their "physical personalities" is being condoned, protected and nurtured by Islamic Elders in Northern Nigeria; does they appear as "ghosts" to the security forces!

Having said all these, the ineptness of the Nigerian Security forces is legendary.
It did not start today but to be candid, our security apparatus are not fit for purpose, when it comes to modern warfare or terrorism.
The training is mediocre, the morale is shameful, the equipments are obsolete and the political will is not only indecisive but extremely naive and weak!.


Issues like employment, good education, justice, abject poverty, intelligence gathering and management, zero tolerance for corruption especially amongst the political class, social cushion for the less privileged, clear and direct vision in terms of infrastructural developments (Power, Water, Roads, health), moral decadence and use of the "religious centers" to preach hatred and get rich quickly, are issued we need to tackle concurrently if we are to make the slightest semblance of progress in Nigeria.

With the way things are going currently, simply put, WE ARE FU.CKED!

We dont even have a Leader or 'group of leaders' (House of Assembly and Ministers) who understand the level of danger we are in or have the slightest idea of how to turn things around. Everyone is after Money! Money!! Money!!!


It is better to learn from other people's mistake that to go through the same "violent process".
Somalia and Rwanda 'combined", could be child's play, if we are not very careful.

If it were possible to "ERASE" the present crop of vipers and leeches masquerading as "Leaders" in Nigeria, maybe we would have started the "healing process" and sent a strong signal that "Nigeria is no longer business as usual"... to everyone.
Strange that when we needed an "Idiagbon", we got ourselves a Jonathan! Its a big, fat, shame on us.


Lastpage!

NB: The "Pant-Bomber" Abdulmutahllab was well educated, from a rich background and did not suffer any "poverty" in his life, yet he chose to be a suicide bomber! food for thought.
It seems most Nigerians don't want to hear or know how Boko haram began in Maiduguri,if only GEJ is a good student of history he would have promptly intervene when those senseless killings by the police began in that part of the country however he abd his people (pdp family )were too busy to take note of those happenings .To thhis best of my knowledge boko haram never fire the first shot government agents (Army/police) did , so they got us all into the mess its their responsibility to get us all out. Unfortubately the BH problem is now a money spinner for the security arm of government heard a General got close to being fleeched of a small #300,000000 in Kano recently
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by overkillR(f): 8:52pm On Apr 08, 2013
I beg to differ! Americans have nothing to loose negotiating with the Talibans. Do you think Americans will be negotiating with the Talibans on American soil?

Let's not kid ourselves. This is a huge mistake. These terrorists has to pay for their crimes.

mu2sa2: In the fight against boko haram the military option has failed, so what option remains other than a non-violent approach. In Afghanistan, Americans have only realised the fact that force is not always the winner after 10 years of bloodshed and are now talking with the taliban. Do those talking force-only with boko haram want the bloodshed to continue for 10 years in nigeria before FG ends it - by talking?
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by PENMIGHT(m): 8:53pm On Apr 08, 2013
me_for_you: Amnesty is no solution to nothing. It breeds nothing but blackmail. See MEND. They kept their arms and ammunition and have easily started killings again. The solution -smoke shekau out of hell, tie him to the stake, along with those bafoons called northern elders, shehus emirs and sultans and buhari and atiku and shoot all of them to death
Your brain seems Bi-polar!
You think extremely positively and annoyingly negatively ! With this polar combo U are a time bomb wating to be detonated.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by kbbanj10(m): 9:06pm On Apr 08, 2013
in as much as i appreciate ur comment & opinion but ur literature is too long & time consuming. anyway all i care t say is we av a clueless & inexperienced head of state. most unfortunate.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by PENMIGHT(m): 9:06pm On Apr 08, 2013
overkill®:
I beg to differ! Americans have nothing to loose negotiating with the Talibans. Do you think Americans will be negotiating with the Talibans on American soil?

Let's not kid ourselves. This is a huge mistake. These terrorists has to pay for their crimes.

Well said. At least let their be 10years of serious engagement of this resistance and perhaps we can dialogue with their deads.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by Nobody: 9:28pm On Apr 08, 2013
Amakamax: Will i call this biology note or what?
Don Okereke or whatever u call yoursef, how do u expect us to read all these long notes?

Also with ur phone numba and email, i bet u are kinda advertising smthing here.
Maybe u want a post up there!!!
Well, go ahead, we r behind u.

Nigerians trully don't like to read.Pity.SMH. Plus leaving the message and attacking the messenger.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by PastorOla1: 10:04pm On Apr 08, 2013
As far as 2015 is concern, it is the best political move.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by 360command: 10:31pm On Apr 08, 2013
Jona, if u provide amnesty , the afghans and other muslim nation will come to nigeria and do their bombings and then seeks for amnesty to stop the bombings.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by confusion247(m): 10:45pm On Apr 08, 2013
manny4life:

Your problem is beyond therapy, you're not too far away from your name...What has Igbo and Massob got to do with this now? Do you guys ever leave Igbo out of your mouths?

@Topic,

NO, it isn't. Giving amnesty will be a dangerous precedence that may NEVER be overturned, it will give rise to future terrors of all sought, nonetheless, it will hasten the disintegration called Nigeria, after all we can live peacefully neither can we negotiate our terms.
Too bad that you are confused from womb. Because of you bigotry you condemned my post and ended up saying the same thing i said.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by fuck419: 10:59pm On Apr 08, 2013
God punish All the bokoharams and the person giving them amnesty. What of the innocent citizens they killed. Let them go to hell with their fucking animalistic mentality. May the Allah they worship destroy all of them. Amen.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by Nobody: 11:01pm On Apr 08, 2013
NUAIT!:
Is Amnesty the Panacea to the Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko Haram Crises in Nigeria?

Food for thought: While attempting to broker a deal with Napoleon, Pope Pius VII (1742-1823) said, ‘’we are prepared to go to the gates of hell- but no further’’.

Caveat:
In a country renowned for thunderous bandwagon sycophancy and where dissenting opinion or criticism is seen as ‘’Opposition’’, let me quickly point out that this treatise is apolitical and is devoid of tribal or religious inclination. It is out of profound Love for country, Patriotism and Passion that I undertook to invest my time in articulating these views. This is not aimed at traducing anybody, organization or section of the country.

Lately there have been so much brouhaha and well-orchestrated angling for Boko Haram to be granted an amnesty. The Sultan of Sokoto tested the waters and since then notable Nigerians mostly drawn from the north have also added their voice.

Rather than pestering the federal government to grant amnesty to impenitent Boko Haram members, let the Sultan and other prominent northern leaders persuade the leadership and members of Boko Haram to embrace peace, surrender their weapons and plead for clemency.

If Boko Haram wants amnesty, they must come out, show remorse and ask for pardon. They cannot get an amnesty by proxy. They must yearn for it and demonstrate it by ceasing wanton killings. It does not behove the government openly beseeching Boko Haram to negotiate or accept an amnesty. It portrays sheer helplessness and weakness. Boko Haram is playing a dangerous psychological war with the government. It will be very embarrassing to the Goodluck Jonathan government if Boko Haram snubs its overtures. I deduce they are lackadaisical over this amnesty thing, so why force it down their throat? It is a waste of time reciting poetry to somebody who does not appreciate poetry. It is human nature not to appreciate something one did not ask for or pay a price for. If the body language of the Presidency cum Political expediency/2015 election permutations is anything to go by, Aso Rock will sooner than later succumb to this wishy-washy exit strategy.

Let’s get something clear here. There is a parallel between the agitation of the Niger Delta militants and that of Boko Haram. The motive, ideology, philosophy and modus operandi of these two groups contrast. Niger Delta militants were fighting for equitable distribution of Oil Money and environmental protection of their communities while Boko Haram says they abhor Western education and that Nigeria must become a full-fledged Islamic country. The activities of the Niger Delta militants largely involved sabotage/bombing of Oil installations in the creeks while Boko Haram is kamikaze and undiscriminating: they target everybody- School children, fellow Muslims, Christians, foreign doctors, Youth Corpers etc. The Niger Delta militants had a semblance of a Unified Command and Control Structure whereas Bokites have a very loose structure, splinter groups and purportedly affiliated to Al-Qaida.

Contrary to widespread believe and in fairness to Boko Haram, the sect may not after all be responsible for all the acts of terrorism and atrocities credited to them. People settle scores somewhere and the Sect basks on it. An example is the sporadic clashes in Plateau State (Jos) and other places involving Fulani herdsmen.

Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and Iran are the bastion of Islam yet these countries don’t witness the unprecedented and sporadic killings that we have in Nigeria. There are also Muslims in America, Ghana, Cameroon etc and these places are relatively calm. Let’s stop this window dressing and get to the root of this matter.

Beyond the guise of religion and politics, there must be a strong force that will galvanize an individual to waste his life and that of others as a suicide bomber. That strong force is the trio of abysmal poverty, hopelessness/frustration, and joblessness. It’s not simplistic! A hungry man is an angry man. It will take an amazing brain-washing prowess to convince a gainfully employed young man or somebody with a thriving business to abandon the trappings of his work or business and be a slavish stooge for kidnapping or terrorism.

Nigeria and Nigerians exigently yearn for good governance and a no-holds-barred restructuring. I dream of a Nigeria that is SAFE, PEACEFUL and where ALL her citizens irrespective of their ethnic and religious background, have a sense of belonging. We want a Nigeria where JUSTICE and EQUITY reigns supreme; a Nigeria that has a zero-tolerance for CORRUPTION, NEPOTISM and TRIBAL JINGOISM. We want a Nigeria where merit is not sacrificed in the altar of mediocrity and godfatherism. We want a Nigeria where some people are not above the law. If I may borrow a word from Barrister Onyekachi Ubani, I dream of a Nigeria where a private citizen will write a letter to a governor or a minister and get a prompt reply.

Beyond the razzmatazz of an amnesty, it is high time Nigeria articulated a ‘’Coherent and Comprehensive Terrorism, Counter-terrorism Policy/Strategy cum a National Defence/Military Policy/Strategy’’. I also advocate an ‘’Extensive Vulnerability or Resilience Test/Audit of Strategic Public Infrastructures in Nigeria’’. Let us do away with our fire-brigade approach and mentality. Let us do away with our predilection for randomly setting up committees and sub-committees every time something happens. Every thoughtful and security-minded country or individual, hopes for the best but prepares for the worst. A wise saying goes, after a battle, sharpen your sword.

We want lasting peace in Nigeria not a simulated/semblance of peace. We want lasting peace not sustained deferment of the evil day. Amnesty is tantamount to treating the symptom of a disease rather than exterminating the latent causative agent. The Boko Haram miasma is the butterfly-effect of a dysfunctional society. Something is not right with the foundation and structure of Nigeria. Urgent action must be taken against unprecedented corruption, acute poverty, culture of impunity/arrogance of power, soaring unemployment rate and whittling radical religious fundamentalism by run-of-the-mill clerics. Good governance will largely nip growing insecurity, instability and terrorism in Nigeria in the bud. Former President Obasanjo stated the obvious when he recently opined that, ‘’rising unemployment in Nigeria is a time-bomb’’.

Imagine the socio-economic transformation that will take place if the N6bn ‘Security Vote’ and the so-called ‘Constituency Allowance’ accruable to all 36 State governors and members of the National Assembly respectively are judiciously utilized and channeled into truly uplifting Nigerians.

A culture, penchant and antecedent of a promiscuous amnesty is a subtle invitation to future anarchy. The Igbo’s have a saying that ‘’aru gbaa afo, oburu omenala’’. In English this roughly translates to ‘’when a crime/atrocity lasts for too long, it becomes a culture’’ With an amnesty, we can presuppose that the likes of Kabiru Sokoto and other detained terrorist/insurgency suspects will now be left off the hook and given a pat on the back for a job well done. Brilliant precedent! Since what is good for the goose is also good for the gander, in the Spirit and Season of Presidential Pardon and amnesty, proponents of the foregoing, should also clamour for James Ibori and Henry Okah to be repatriated to Nigeria and lavished with this magnanimity. Perhaps very soon the United States government will also remove the name of the Boko Haram leader- Abubakar Shekau, from its list of most wanted ‘’global terrorists’’.

Our bane in Nigeria is paucity of healthy debates and our predilection for policy summersault. Recall President Jonathan recently said he cannot give amnesty to ghosts, now he has recanted. I sincerely sympathize with government appointees, especially in Nigeria. It’s not easy being one. Just few days ago, the Chief of Army Staff-Lt. Gen. Azubuike Ihejirika was busy spewing fire and brimstone during the Military-Media Relation Seminar in Lagos. The COAS was reported to have said that, ‘’only force will end the Boko Haram crises’. Now he will eat his words. The Service Chiefs were all smiles aftermath of their meeting with President Jonathan. In an ideal country, you will hear that so and so person has resigned his appointment because he does not agree with the position of the government on an issue. Not in Nigeria, business as usual.

My take is that the malaria drug (amnesty) that was used to simulate Peace in the Niger Delta may not necessarily work for a typhoid fever (the Boko Haram imbroglio). Right now MEND is threatening to resume hostilities. It appears they implemented their threat because a while ago, Niger Delta militants reportedly killed about 13 Police Officers in Bayelsa State. Of course the culprits of this dastardly act are still covered by Presidential amnesty immunity. From the foregoing, one can safely prognosticate that an amnesty for Boko Haram is not a guarantee that they will not relapse in the near future. Is that the type of peace we want in Nigeria? I have been around for a while and old enough to recall when the dreaded Maitatsine reigned terror in the northern part of Nigeria. Was it an amnesty that whittled this group? The symptom of the disease was treated and the disease has metamorphosed again. Empirical evidence suggests a more virulent Sect or breakaway faction of Boko Haram may just be in the offing.

At the risk over-egging the pudding or been dubbed a pessimist, I postulate that with or without negotiation/amnesty, pockets of sporadic terrorist incidents, kidnappings will persist across Nigeria unless far-reaching measures are taken to shrink abject poverty, unemployment, hopelessness, wanton corruption, religion fundamentalism and injustice.

So what is your take, do you think amnesty is the panacea to the Insecurity, Instability and the Boko Haram brouhaha bedeviling Nigeria? Is amnesty the magic wand that will bring lasting peace to Nigeria? Will an amnesty automatically obviate the philosophy and psyche of Boko Haram members? Will Boko Haram members also undergo psychotherapeutic courses abroad as part of the amnesty package to wean them their bloodletting streak? How much will this amnesty Project cost the government or will it be Private Sector driven? Taking a cue from the Niger Delta amnesty package, I am pretty sure that this time too monies will be doled out to Boko Haram amnesty beneficiaries. How will the government decipher real Boko Haram members and impostors that will want to avail themselves of the impending largesse? What happens to families that lost loved ones during the onslaught, will they be adequately compensated? Boko Haram is said to have an unholy alliance with Al-Qaida, if you exonerate the Nigerian elements, what happens to their external allies. Will they be given amnesty too?

With the setting up of the ‘Presidential Amnesty Panel’, what started as a mere speculation and a fairy tale now appears to be a fait accompli.

Given that this amnesty thing is fast becoming an ongoing thriving and money spinning industry in Nigeria, perhaps it is high time the Presidency established a full-fledged ‘Ministry of Amnesty Affairs’.

One of the traits I profoundly appreciate in Western democracies and advanced societies is the profundity of interesting debates on issues of national interest. An example is the ongoing Gun Control debate in the United States of America. Let us replicate the same in Nigeria.

I have noticed a deafening collective apathy towards discussing or debating the far-reaching implications of this blossoming amnesty industry in Nigeria. Please let us have a healthy, matured and intellectual public debate devoid of myopic ethnic or religious leanings before this haphazardly conceived concept is rammed into our throat. I am trying to stimulate a vigorous National public debate on this burning issue in Nigeria. Let superior reason prevail. Let the discussion continue in the streets, markets, on Social Media/Networking Platforms-FaceBook, Twitter, Print and Digital media etc. Stand up and be counted.

No individual or country will make meaningful progress in an atmosphere of unpredictability and wanton killings. Let’s make Nigeria great again! Let’s give peace a chance; nobody or group has a monopoly of wisdom or violence.

God bless Nigeria and Nigerians.

Don Okereke
(Security Analyst & Consultant)
Abuja, Nigeria
+2347080008285
donnuait@yahoo.com



Please can some1 tell me d code for migration to MTN supersaver ; thanks

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Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by Nobody: 11:38pm On Apr 08, 2013
Raymondenyi:

Please can some1 tell me d code for migration to MTN supersaver ; thanks
this is d mst annoying post i'v seen on NL. Wen i introduce my own bomber sect. ''all d modafckers in govt. Haram'' it wil be wit u.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by joseph1832(m): 11:46pm On Apr 08, 2013
"Niger Delta militant - 75k/month, Boko Haram - 100k/month, @_NYSC - 19,800/month. Choose your career wisely" if after serving my country to the beat of my abilities means my country will turn her back on me and spit on my face by giving those Boko Haram scallywags amnesty, then I believe I too can also take up arms and amunition, caryy out inglorious crimes against humanity and wait for amnesty!

I believe the GEJ administration is trying too hard to please everybody! Ever since this whole amnesty of a thing surface, Boko Haram has not even said a word! I believe this simply means they don't give a rats ass about the amnesty the FG is offering!.

One can never stop violence by cuddling the people behind it, it will only pave way for more violence. The sultan of sokoto who is the epicentre of this amnesty bullshit is still pretty silent about it, ever since he pleaded with the FG for it, he went into hybernation.

Is he secretly planning to solve the almajiri problem by bringing all the almajiris in the north to benefit from the amnesty offered Boko Haram?!. Only time will tell.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by Kairoseki77: 12:49am On Apr 09, 2013
I wrote a post recently condemning the people proclaiming respectful sadness at the death of a politician.

A few agreed with my condemnation, but most hurled insults at me and said they would be respectful of her at any cost, even if she was a thief.

Isn't there something wrong with this? Is it too painful to admit that many of these politicians are of more help to the Nigerian public when they are laid to rest than when they are alive and stealing?

There can be no revolution in this country as long as the oppressed are mentally enslaved to the oppressors.

A funny thing about 2015 is that NOONE talks about Fashola being President. It is almost as if Nigerians are deathly afraid of what a real leader might do in office. If we are told constantly from birth that if we work hard we will be rewarded, what do the Nigerian leaders of tomorrow think when they see that a hard working achiever is ignored, while thieves and criminals are pardoned and celebrated.

This goes way beyond tribe and party...it is just sad.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by remmyz(m): 4:30am On Apr 09, 2013
To me, its not the best solution but if I† will reduce all this bombing here and dere, why not...but...†ђεy should make sure no financial string is attached to it.

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Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by Dankota1: 6:59am On Apr 09, 2013
Mr Don Okereke, as a security consultant you don't seems to understand the difference between various types of security situations. A fight over resourses and a fight over ideology are NOT THESAME. By the way our thinking on amnesty is linear and typical.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by Flashyfash(m): 7:00am On Apr 09, 2013
this president is clueless.... he knows the people behind boko haram,he will be the dumbest human if he says otherwise,he should explain to nigerians what d late nsa meant when he said boko haram is d creation of pdp? l am affraid no opinion here would be seem to be meaningful when the real reason behind this crisis is not told.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by deandavid(m): 7:51am On Apr 09, 2013
The holy book says, my people perish for lack of knowledge, we need to know what we are talking about here, 1st and foremost what is amnesty, my dictionary says its a period of time during which people can admit to a crime or give up weapons without being punish. Now its clear, there isnt any money or package attached to it, it doesnt necessarily means bokoharam will be given money for killing people, to me its just a way to disarm and bring them into the society again without punishment. Hence amnesty to bokoharam is nt out of place, IF package isnt included. But my fear is will they accept it, since what they are asking for cannot be granted, poverty isnt bokoharams problem, but the islamization of Nigeria. So now the only 2 solution i will suggest is: Let the northern elites, muslim scholars, teachers and their elders tell bokoharam that Nigeria can never be an absolute islamic state, that they should just learn to practice their religion peacefully side by side with others. This should be done openly on the media,,before granting them amnesty. OR the fg should declare the affected state total state of emergency, open temporary camps, so that ordinary citizens can stay there while the military action is carried out, to smoke the terrorist out.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by lastpage: 8:19am On Apr 09, 2013
moneybag4411: Sincerely,thie amnesty proposal for Boko haram is annoying...I am based in Kano and words can not describe the amount of horror and pain this sect has unleashed on us...and to say the way out is to appease them with Money..huge some of money is disheartening...

With my own eyes,i saw a woman who lost three children at the scene of the latest bomb blast @ the luxurious bus park in kano..

The baby she had on her back was her only survivng child..THREE children burnt to ashes...now tell me,the killers will be given huge amount of money,how much does this woman get?
Likewise uncountable victims of this heinous act..would the government pay them too?

I want to ask,if the attack targeted @ the emir of kano which almost took his life had been successful,would the government stil have proposed amnesty? Furthermore....the niger delta militant is paid 80,000naira...Boko haram members wil get 100,000naira monthly....and our NYSC corpers get 19,800naira monthly...is that justifiable?

Nigeria needs to wake up
Thank you so much for this post.
Our people still dont understand that this "Amnesty thing" is just a RACKET!
A FRAUD, 419 FROM "OGA AT THE TOP"!


For the avoidance of doubt, "Amnesty" is only granted to:

1.) Bandits who have renounced violence COMPLETELY and surrendered ALL WEAPONS used for violence.
2.) Those who have COME CLEAN by way of CONFESSION to their evil deeds, VOLUNTARILY.... (Not through "Blackmail or threat of further Terror!)
3.) Those who dont have the blood of the innocent, on their hands.....(if you have killed the innocent, you will still serve the time, maybe instead of death penalty, it can be commuted to a long jail sentence.)


*You dont grant amnesty to "wanton murderers" who kill babies and the innocent passers-by!
*You dont grant amnesty because you are afraid of the Terrorist or even negotiate with them from a position of 'fear', which is what Jonathan is doing.

What stops the BH or MEND from picking up their weapons again ..and threatening worse violence if for example they think they want a SALARY Amnesty increase?


Did BH or MEND satisfy these conditions? Did mend not just murder 13 federal officers this week?
What manner of foolish people or Govt REWARDS KILLERS of the innocent?


WHY?
To gain "interim peace"? To pacify them?


Was "financial gains" (like Amnesty) their original intention for starting the massacre?
Have they realized their "original motives"? If 'NO', then what makes the Fed. Govt think those "motives" will simply disappear or the "conditions which lead to the development of such motives" will simply vanish as a result of payment?

Tell, me why OPC, MASSOB or any other group should not take-up Terrorism, knowing that Amnesty is just round the corner?
Is this GEJ Govt actually promoting Terrorism as a way for life for our people?
Who does not like "Awoof Amnesty" Money?


Before you know it, groups of "small boys & girls" will start springing up, learn how to detonate bombs and GBOOSAWA, they are entitled to Amnesty!

Jeezuz, what offense did we commit in this country, to be saddle with these kind of inept and mentally depreciated "Leaders" Looters?

Really, this Jonathan Govt is taking stewpidity to new heights/levels, on a daily basis.


Lastpage!

PS: I have nothing personal against GEJ as a person but as the President of my dear country, he is a colossal failure that has brought shame to the black man!

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Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by Nobody: 8:24am On Apr 09, 2013
jentlsoul: SE and SS are the problem of Nigeria. When oga jona grant pardon for alam and we all know that is wrong but the ss and se see nothing wrong with that, it is only N and SW that condemn the barbaric act. Now it is your turn to be hurt by oga jona to grant amnesty to boko haram. Me I think it is only us in the north that oga jona is hurting not knowing that he will also hurt his brethren.

What are you talking about ? I don't blame you, I blame those who betrayed and forced us together.

Truly, I think we should divide. We can't co exist as an entity.

You've only drawn yourself ten time backwards, while others are striving to forge ahead.

North + Disaster = low level of education
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by Raymondgabriel(m): 8:42am On Apr 09, 2013
jentlsoul: SE and SS are the problem of Nigeria. When oga jona grant pardon for alam and we all know that is wrong but the ss and se see nothing wrong with that, it is only N and SW that condemn the barbaric act. Now it is your turn to be hurt by oga jona to grant amnesty to boko haram. Me I think it is only us in the north that oga jona is hurting not knowing that he will also hurt his brethren.


bros u lack wisdom n knowledge. Hw old re u?
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by plasgidy: 9:02am On Apr 09, 2013
NUAIT!:
Many a times in Nigeria ill-conceived government Policies are rammed into the throat of Nigerians devoid of wide consultations and public debate or input.

I am trying to stimulate a vigorous National public debate on this burning issue in Nigeria.

Please let us avail ourselves this opportunity to make meaningful contributions and proffer solutions. I am puzzled by the apathy in making contributions here. Stand up and be counted!
Nuait, I strongly believe that every thing is moraly wrong with granting northern nigeria polotician amnestie, cos there reason is baseless unfounded and bayace, jtf shld carry on there job untill all the big fishes behind this boko boys are unmasked who knows if this God doing to free us from this blood sucking demons, no I said no the blood of this innocent victim will not go in vain, hope our opinion will count, my 50 kobo
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by Parnassuss(m): 9:11am On Apr 09, 2013
No. Its the antithesis of the problem's solution.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by plasgidy: 9:20am On Apr 09, 2013
This type of bombings has sperked of civil war in many countries, this so called northern criminal is using the loot they got from govt to sponsor all this dog shit, all they want is go back to asorock to mess up all what this our good luck have done as they born to rule and not serve the ppl, if I may ask what is the meaning of making gej govt ungovernable?
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by adewaleafolabi(m): 9:20am On Apr 09, 2013
It puzzles me, There's a saying that when everyone becomes mad and you are the only sane person and keep living amongst lunatics, and appear different to them, they would think you're crazy. in reality such a person really is crazy so to say.

Nigeria, the government is terribly corrupt and offering amnesty is a cheaper option than fixing employment, infrastructure, health and providing good governance in general.

Unfairness and gross inequality rules the nation. Good luck to nigeria
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by dbride: 9:37am On Apr 09, 2013
Repeatedly I have cautioned that the northern elders that are bent on amnesty for boko haram are doing so for their own selfish reasons, not because they dont know that this will become a gateway to hell for Nigeria. I know them, I grew up in their midst and I know that when they are being governed or led by non-muslim (which koran forbids), they seek ways to destroy that nation. They secretly support boko haram and that explains why non of them has ever condemned them publicly. The ones who were killed or attacked by the boko boys are those whose loyalty is in question. They dare not oppose them even secretly within the four walls of their bedroom because the walls have ears.

With this, we can see that the northern elders are in a web. One, they are secretly in support of the boko jihadists and they also want to be in the good books of the southerners. To show the boko boys that they truly support them, they canvass for amnesty even when they know boko haram is a pricipled jihadist group whose agenda is death to the unbeliever, nothing more nothing less. Dont be surprised, if the northern elders succeed in securing amnesty on their behalf, the boko boys will use it to finance their course but this time with a DIFFERENT NAME. Of course, fake representatives of boko haram would show up for amnesty. Yes, the corrupt northern elders would have financial gains as well while the islamic agenda continues unabated. For God's sake, how do you ask for amnesty for the man you do not know!!!!!Deceit, deceit.

Let nobody be deceived or naive, Boko Haram is the VOICE OF THE NORTHERNERS. They are simply saying, if we are not in power, nigeria will not know peace. But for God, their wicked plans would have had far reaching disastrous results. Amnesty is plan B for the northern elders.

Anmesty will not work. They just want to plunge this country into hell simply because they are not in power. Let's resist them. All southerners over there, do the needful and let them get burnt by the fire they ignited. Period.
An unbeliever does not lead a believer according to their koran! Then, let's separate. Truth is bitter.
Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by adewaleafolabi(m): 9:51am On Apr 09, 2013
It puzzles me, There's a saying that when everyone becomes mad and you are the only sane person and keep living amongst lunatics, and appear different to them, they would think you're crazy. in reality such a person really is crazy so to say.

Nigeria, the government is terribly corrupt and offering amnesty is a cheaper option than fixing employment, infrastructure, health and providing good governance in general.

Unfairness and gross inequality rules the nation. Good luck to Nigeria

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Re: Is Amnesty The Solution To Insecurity, Terrorism & Boko-Haram Crises? by ng4am(f): 9:57am On Apr 09, 2013
[quote author=jentlsoul]SE and SS are the problem of Nigeria. When oga jona grant pardon for alam and we all know that is wrong but the ss and se see nothing wrong with that, it is only N and SW that condemn the barbaric act. Now it is your turn to be hurt by oga jona to grant amnesty to boko haram. Me I think it is only us in the north that oga jona is hurting not knowing that he will also hurt his brethren.[/quote
When u dnt ve anything meaningful to contribute, just shut up. Thank u.

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