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Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by odumchi: 12:08am On May 10, 2013 |
Oh okay. Now I know the song you're taking about; it's called "Asili 98". When Morocco said "Ndi ilo m jelu olu jee Igbo", he meant "my enemies went near and far". In that context 'olu' means "a distant (or non-Igbo) town/country", whereas 'Igbo' means "a nearby town/country". Morocco is trying to say that his enemies went to great lengths to try to kill him. In Southern Igbo, the word exists as 'oru'. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by bigfrancis21: 12:21am On May 10, 2013 |
odumchi: Oh okay. Now I know the song you're taking about; it's called "Asili 98". Daalu nwanne m oma! I bu ezigbo diokpala Igbo! Nna I mulu I! |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by odumchi: 12:23am On May 10, 2013 |
bigfrancis21: Nwanne m, ndeewo o. Nsogbu adighi. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by pazienza(m): 6:29pm On May 31, 2013 |
ChinenyeN: I see (just reread through your post). I can understand where you're coming from now. I'm surprised I missed that completely. That's the kind of mistake I at least try not to make. Anyway, a curious thought occurred to me, after having read through your post again (and also having opened up one of the books I have on Igbo oral traditions). Here is my hypothesis on this matter. 1, The people we today call abam,abriba,ohafia,edda,umuhu ezechi,igberre,aro,etc, once inhabited the area around itu in the present cross river state. 2. These people were igbo speaking,as could be seen from their names. 3. These people were pushed from this their itu abode by the ibibios/efiks/annang, into a more western direction. 4. These people didn't meet the land they occupy today empty,they met other igbo groups there,whom they overpowered and pushed towards the igbo central areas in northern abia and southern anambra(orumba area). |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by ezeagu(m): 9:19pm On May 31, 2013 |
pazienza: Some of the groups you mentioned actually know where they migrated from (usually Imo) and don't need a hypothesis. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by pazienza(m): 12:15am On Jun 01, 2013 |
ezeagu: Which of them? |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by odumchi: 12:33am On Jun 01, 2013 |
pazienza: Ohafia, Aro, Abiriba, Edda, Abam and other Bende groups are related and are all linked to a group of people that migrated into what is now southern Ebonyi and northern Abia. This group wasn't originally Igbo-speaking; it spoke a Cross Riverian language. The remnants of this language are still present in this region since you can still find non-Igbo names like Toti and Akuma among these peoples. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by Antivirus92(m): 8:38am On Jun 01, 2013 |
odumchi:so you know that these people are not originally igbos but for selfish reasons u keep including them in igbo history. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by odumchi: 4:53pm On Jun 01, 2013 |
Antivirus92: so you know that these people are not originally igbos but for selfish reasons u keep including them in igbo history. There's no such thing as "original Igbo". We've discussed this several times. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by Antivirus92(m): 3:56pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
odumchi:you and who have discussed it?. There are original igbos and igbonised igbos. Take it or leave it. 1 Like |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by pazienza(m): 11:58pm On Jun 02, 2013 |
odumchi: Not true. Those groups were originally igbo speaking, the name of their first leaders suggests so. Just like the western igbos that assimilated edo elements with time,so did these eastern igbo groups assimilate cross riverian elements with time. 1 Like |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by odumchi: 7:20am On Jun 04, 2013 |
pazienza: You can't really compare Western (Anioma) Igbo with Eastern (Cross River) Igbo because the circumstances behind their settlements in the areas in which they now inhabit are different. Ohafia, Aro, and Edda (Ada) are not mute peoples. They have clearly recorded their histories both online and offline. I suggest you take a look, if you doubt me. Polyglotism has historically been common among the groups in the Cross River region; meaning that people sometimes bear cross-ethnic names. Therefore, in this region (and especially at that time period), names are not always an indicator of ethnicity. Anyway, if I may ask, what were the names of the original founding fathers of these peoples? |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by Sisom(f): 11:32am On Jun 30, 2013 |
[quote author=Abagworo] Those people that use "ifon", "ifen" or "iphe" are mostly Crossriver Igbos that live North of Umuahia to Abakaliki and greet with "Ka" or "Jokwa". No Abia dialect uses "wu" instead of "bu". I think "wu" starts around Imo State and ends at the Egbeda axis of Ikwerre via Ohaji. Every other Igbo dialect I've heard uses "bu". [/quote] i wish you will listen mor to the abians when they speak cos i am an abian from ohuhu and i speak wu nad ihe what u will say is that the intonations differ from community to community and from state to state |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by ifyalways(f): 12:57pm On Aug 25, 2013 |
^ ^ I agree. Parts of Umuahia that I've been to uses "wu" Owu ihe owu = it is what it is. 1 Like |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by simpolelala: 10:28am On Sep 08, 2013 |
i strongly belive that there are diffrence in the whole language speaking in anambra becos even in idemili ,Abatete dialet has some diff between our neborin villages not to talk of other local govt or state. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by Ihuomadinihu: 12:16pm On Oct 25, 2014 |
odumchi:Well,Aro,Ohafia and Abam were probably Cross -riverian according to you. But most Bende groups were not. Most of them have a history of descending from other Isu groups. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by odumchi: 4:37am On Oct 26, 2014 |
Ihuomadinihu: 'Cross Riverian', in that context, refers to the cultural area that encompass northern Abia and southern Ebonyi. I was not referring to the actual administrative zone (Cross River State). 1 Like |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by Ihuomadinihu: 12:57pm On Oct 27, 2014 |
odumchi:I know what you mean,i guess you misunderstood me. I just want to know if Bende groups like Uzuakoli,Nkpa, Alayi and Igbere etc are classified as CR cultural zones. I thought the CR cultural stuff started from Ohafia,Arochukwu and down to Southern Ebonyi. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by OdenigboAroli(m): 8:06am On Oct 29, 2014 |
simpolelala: What is the difference between what is spoken in Abatete and Umuoji? |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by odumchi: 8:55am On Oct 29, 2014 |
Ihuomadinihu: I see what you mean. You're right. The Umuahia-Uzuakoli-Bende-Item elements of northern Abia are considered southern Igbo and not Cross Riverian. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by Ihuomadinihu: 10:19pm On Oct 29, 2014 |
odumchi:Yeah. And i believe they fall within the CR igbo dialect cluster. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by letu(m): 8:10am On Oct 30, 2014 |
pazienza:There are many community/villega in igbo land that goes by the name Itu eg Ituku,Itukpa and others in Abia& Imo so there might be some relation between the cross river Itu and Igbo Itu. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by Deltagiant: 6:48pm On Oct 30, 2014 |
simpolelala: I know only about the Igala language speakers in Anambra. Except you wanted to say the different dialects in the state. Many people, rightly or wrongly, are of the opinion that the Omambala region's dialect is by default the flagship tongue of Ndi Anambra. This dialect is traditionally spoken mainly in the Oyi, Ayamelum, Onitsha North, Anambra East/west and Dunukofia councils. The youths thinks it's sexy. Other neigbouring communities whose dialects come close to the above are Ogidi and Obosi. Nkpor and Umuoji to an extent. The Ogbarus, from Idemmili-Odekpe down to Obeagwe have their own dialect, though very light like the Omambalas. I will group Abatete, Eziowelle and Abacha together. Then Abagana and Nimo on one side, though the Abagana's tilted more to the Dunukofia side. Amichi, Nnobi, Nnokwa, Agulu-UzoIgbo, Igboukwu, Adazi and Oraeri in one group. Parts of Umunri; Nawfia and Enugwu Ukwu speaks like the natives of Awka and environs. Nnewi North, parts of Idemmili like Oba and Ojoto, including the Ekwusigo council speak in a similar way. On the other hand, Nnewi South and parts of Orlu/Mgbidi shares dialectical affinity. Aguata: Umuchu, Akokwa, Osina etc. are very unique. Umunze, Isulo, Nawfija, Ekwulobia, Uga, Ogbunka and so on are another group amongst the rest. So, yes, Anambra nwelu different dialects. I’ve lived amongst them. And can rightly guess their respective communities/areas whenever I’m their midst. 2 Likes |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by UtuhMbadike: 10:11pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
Although an old discussion, but I was successfully tempted to join in. I am from the southern part of Anambra State, the town of Utuh Mbadike in Nnewi South LGA. I agree with the thesis of Anambra having divergent dialects. But I should hasten to add that one would be wrong to assume the differences in dialect always mean differences in origin between the towns and regions of Anambra State. Many of the towns in Ihiala LGA have verifiable Nri origin, yet they don’t speak the Njikoka dialect. My father is from Utuh, and the town was settled by folks from different parts of the old Igbo country. My paternal grandma is from an Utuh clan called Umuehim, descendants of Agulu settlers, hence their being referred to as ‘Ehim-Agulu’. My mother hails from Amichi, and Amichi is an Okotu town—closely related to Osumenyi, Adazi Enu, Adazi Ani, and Adazi Nnukwu. Okotu himself hailed from Umuona town in Aguata, a town I suspect is Nri-linked via neighbouring Oraeri. My sister is married to a man from Ikenga town in Aguata, and Ikenga folks say they are ‘isi mba’ wherefrom every Ikenga community originally departed, including Ikenga Ogidi. The mother of this Ikenga Aguata brother-in-law of mine was herself originally from Oraeri. My direct elder brother is married to a lady from Umuchu (Aguata still). All this was said to allow me point out: No two of these mentioned towns speak the same dialect of the Igbo language, except perhaps the three Adazis. But I have just illustrated how my family is linked by blood to all these places. (For what it’s worth: The Ikenga + Umuona dialects are close but not the same; the Igboukwu + Oraeri dialects are close but not the same; Osumenyi and Ukpor folks sound alike; Utuh has a unique dialect; Amichi and Nnewi town share a dialect which I believe extends into Oraifite and Ichi in Ekwusigo. Osita Osadebe’s mother was, I suspect, from Oraifite, and many of his musical words are unique to the Oraifite-Nnewi-Ichi-Amichi dialect ... I hear these terms from my mom and her Amichi folks but never from the other towns that surround Amichi, like Osumenyi and Utuh. NB: To clarify further; the Okotu clan includes Adazi-Enu, Adazi-Ani, Adazi-Nnukwu, Obeledu, Amichi, Ichida, Osumenyi, and Ogbodi. Potentially more towns. Yet between these listed communities are up to three dialects and two local government areas. Go figure!) When we marry, our preference goes in this manner: fellow Nnewi South towns, Nnewi North, Aguata, Ekwusigo, Idemmili South, Idemmili North (minus Obosi), Orumba South, Orumba North, and then Ihiala. Njikoka and Dunukofia come next, followed by Awka, etc. We don’t marry from Onitsha or the towns adjacent to it. We equally don’t venture toward Delta State. My folks are of the belief that Igbo towns bordering non-Igbo cultures should not be prioritised in matters of marriage. Finally, to discount Southern Anambra as not being ‘Anambra enough’, whatever that suggestion might mean, is to rob Anambra of its widely envied glorious excellence. It is generally seen as ‘the money State’ of doers, and for every billionaire businessman from Northern Anambra, there are four from Southern Anambra. Nnewi is untouchable in this regard. And there’s a good reason the medical investments of ObiJackson (Okija) and Godwin Mmaduka (Umuchukwu) are both located in Southern Anambra. I am in fact of the opinion that three Igbo regions stand out above the rest with regard to wealth ownership ... in the following order: 1. Southern Anambra, 2. Northern Imo, and 3. The Bende axis of Abia State. / Therein lie the business and industrialist cultures that make the Igbo special and without which the Igbo would cease to be Igbo. 5 Likes |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by agadez007(m): 10:49pm On Aug 24, 2016 |
anambra south's dialects is very different from anambra center and north,them orumba and co have the harshest dialect in anambra,sounds mostly like what is obtainable in imo state,while anambra center is lighter,and the north the lightest but when u come to anambra center,almost all towns are a dialect of their own,close towns dont even speak same dialect,e.g ideani which descended from Alor and share a common boundary dont speak alike |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by bigfrancis21: 4:47am On Aug 27, 2016 |
agadez007: Isn't orumba dialect similar to the dialect of Oji River/Udi in Enugu state? 1 Like |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by Ceska(f): 5:08pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
achi4u: The core omambala communities, Oyi, Ayamelum, Anambra east and West, speak the same dialect with little variance. Their dialects is the most complicated of all Anambra dialects. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by Ceska(f): 5:13pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Deltagiant: Wow! Good to know that someone understands that there re core Omambala communities. But it comprises of Oyi, Ayamelum, Anambra East and West. |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by toolovely(m): 11:14am On Jun 08, 2019 |
bigfrancis21: Afikpo in Anambra? Hiaa |
Re: Misunderstanding Anambra Igbo Dialect by Ceska(f): 10:25am On Apr 25, 2020 |
achi4u: Ayamelum like other Omambala communities, i e Oyi, Anambra East and West speak the same dialect with little variance. You can't choose one without the other, that includes the minority Igala in Olumba n'asa. 1 Like |
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