₦airaland Forum

gbosaa: Why the left hand..Thats discrimination..

Im a leftie..

then use your right hand , silly man!

just use the hand you dont use for eating, shaking hands and all purposes. its not necessary as long as you use soap, but just a precaution.

PDPwayoo: My broda, tell them. some people even use carton and cement paper. Thats first degree of dirtiness.

VolvoS60: ^^^^I am curious sir. Why the exemption for education? On what grounds does education qualify for subsidies?

Because education builds the pepole and society to ensure it creates value and thus earn respect amongst its peers in the comity of nations.
That is what leading nations have always done, first with the Europeans starting around the 15th century.
The Chinese and Asians, including India started theirs shortly after WWII and we see the results manifesting 50 years later. The Arabs are slowly following suit.

Chief Obafemi Awolowo realised the great potential of this for unlocking the creative genius of a whole society hence his pivotal programme was free & compulsory education at primary school, when six decades ago he was Premier of Western region. It did not matter that his father, a farmer, died when he was 7 years old and had to struggle to pay for his own education.
The UPN governors moved the free education forward to include secondary schools in 1979-1983.
Now that is being PROGRESSive.

The yorubas have a saying:

Ada to mu daradara, ko le shan oko fun ara re. Eniyan lo le mu shanko - no matter how sharp a cutlass is, it cannot cut the grass all by itself. You need someone to use it to cut the grass.

All the PHYSICAL yoyo structures being put up by governments today to scam people will lay to waste soon enough without the necessary HUMAN capital development to sustain them.
If you take a trip to the northern part of our country you will see a few structures mostly empty and lying waste while the people are doing almajiri and waiting to be fed by their "generous" leaders.

That is not the way of sustainable development.

Wapgod: Toilet paper plenty for nigeria.Can i be their supplier?CHECK OUT THIS COOL FORUM http://AMEBO.NSTARS.ORG

Really? And they are made in Nigeria?

iamdsam: Water is the best. Stop deceiving yourself

I was just asking a question.
Don't crucify me now

they shld learn from western n northen Nigeria were water serves the purpose

Nna bros! I am immediately sending five 40ft containers with tissue paper straight to Venezuela! There is money to be made biko!!!!

mickijoe: they shld learn from western n northen Nigeria were water serves the purpose

^^^Are you trying to say that water does not serve the same purpose in other part of the country

To all the ass wiping nairalanders remind me not to shake your hands when we meet in person.
No wonder amoeba, cholera, typhoid are soooo common in one region of the country

gbosaa: My friend shattaap and listen to him..use water next time..you are a million years behind..
You are lucky,you are not a woman..you turn around for some do.ggy style...the mans anaconda shrinks to the size of earthworn..

Ike nsi like you.

ehm...ehm... Confirm true talk!
I bin don get first hand xperience wen i bi badt boi chairman no gree perform again i jus tel d babe sey i nid 2 pais so we go continue later .

Where are those Chavez apologists on Nairaland. They should take up the patriotic task of sanitizing socialist bums.

Venezuela is lucky he passed away sooner that later. Five more years of Hugo and they will be perusing garbage heaps ala Nigeria 1983.

Tissue paper for what, they better start using cocoyam leaves......

Socialism and communism can't work they are of the Devil, the worst performing countries are socialist and communist countries. The more free market, low tax, less regulated, capitalist economy a country is the better it performs. The bible promotes biblical capitalism, and only that works because it is of God.

Get the books:

1. "Productive Christians in an Age of Guilt-Manipulation: A Biblical Response to Ronald J. Sider", by David Chilton

http://www.amazon.com/Productive-Christians-Age-Guilt-Manipulation-Biblical/dp/0930464389/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369071435&sr=8-1&keywords=productive+christians+in+an+age+of+guilt+manipulators

2. "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective", by Ted R. Weiland

http://missiontoisrael.org/booklist.php

http://www.amazon.com/Bible-Law-United-States-Constitution/dp/0983852618/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1369072283&sr=1-1&keywords=Bible+Law+vs.+the+United+States+Constitution%3A+The+Christian+Perspective

I feel very uncomfortable after using a tissue hence I still use water.As far as u wash ur hands properly.Team water all d way.nd always remember SHIT!!! Happens

Well na matter of choice for my toilet tissue dey and water dey...but as 4 me na water ooo e 2 make sense ooo

PAGAN 9JA:
disgusting. why cant they be clean and use water?

i see, you are among the peeps that leave containers behind in the toilet, distributing bladder worth.
after cleaning with your hand and water you still shake people with it.
BTW, i think its only easterners that dont do that $hit.
that is the reason i hate public toilets, yuck!!!

PAGAN 9JA:
bathing doesnt clean it. the water doesnt all reach inside. and if it does, its disgusting. just imagine all your left over shytz falling down your legs, with the water.

well you guessed wrong. I take a bath immmediately when im done with the toilet. so Im extra clean!

and dont tell me that you take a bath outside in public, after using toilet paper. dont lie.

toilet paper is wasteful since it kills trees and causes deforestation and its filthy.

you sound horrible, i ve stopped people like you using my toilet in the office.
you claim you wash, with which basin?? same toilet seat? dis guy is a non living thing.
after washing on the toilet seat you leave it brown with pebbles of brown shit,
do you wash the toilet seat and the ceramic body with your hand also??
ironically, this $illy practice is so common in Nigeria, i could rem. asking my room mate in the university why there are containers in the toilet? he just smiled
i later discovered why the toilet seat is always brown,
damn!!!??

gbrookes02: Socialism and communism can't work they are of the Devil, the worst performing countries are socialist and communist countries. The more free market, low tax, less regulated, capitalist economy a country is the better it performs. The bible promotes biblical capitalism, and only that works because it is of God.

Get the books:

1. "Productive Christians in an Age of Guilt-Manipulation: A Biblical Response to Ronald J. Sider", by David Chilton

http://www.amazon.com/Productive-Christians-Age-Guilt-Manipulation-Biblical/dp/0930464389/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369071435&sr=8-1&keywords=productive+christians+in+an+age+of+guilt+manipulators

2. "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective", by Ted R. Weiland

http://missiontoisrael.org/booklist.php

http://www.amazon.com/Bible-Law-United-States-Constitution/dp/0983852618/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1369072283&sr=1-1&keywords=Bible+Law+vs.+the+United+States+Constitution%3A+The+Christian+Perspective

STOP the lies.
The Bible does not promote any capitalism for CHRISTians. Quite the contrary.
Jesus Christ had a common purse with his 12 Apostles from where their daily needs were met. The first CHRISTians continued that practice as documented here:

44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

[url=http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Acts+2%3A+44-45&ver=kjv]Acts 2: 44-45[/url]

I will advise you to read the Bible yourself and ask the Holy Spirit to give you understanding directly rather than base your life on the interpretation of others who may have an agenda
To make it worse you even have to buy their books, which are simply their own understanding of the scriptures.
SMH!

Toilet Paper is not only used for wiping bottom, there are other uses for it, what if you have Catarrh or cough with heavy phlegm

Also if they are having toilet roll shortages, the same would apply to Tissue, Serviettes, Baby Wipes

anonimi: Because education builds the pepole and society to ensure it creates value and thus earn respect amongst its peers in the comity of nations.
That is what leading nations have always done, first with the Europeans starting around the 15th century.[/b]
The Chinese and Asians, including India started theirs shortly after WWII and we see the results manifesting 50 years later. The Arabs are slowly following suit.

Chief Obafemi Awolowo realised the great potential of this for unlocking the creative genius of a whole society hence his pivotal programme was free & compulsory education at primary school, when six decades ago he was Premier of Western region. It did not matter that his father, a farmer, died when he was 7 years old and had to struggle to pay for his own education.
The UPN governors moved the free education forward to include secondary schools in 1979-1983.
Now that is being PROGRESSive.

The yorubas have a saying:

Ada to mu daradara, ko le shan oko fun ara re. Eniyan lo le mu shanko - no matter how sharp a cutlass is, it cannot cut the grass all by itself. You need someone to use it to cut the grass.

All the PHYSICAL yoyo structures being put up by governments today to scam people will lay to waste soon enough without the necessary HUMAN capital development to sustain them.
If you take a trip to the northern part of our country you will see a few structures mostly empty and lying waste while the people are doing almajiri and waiting to be fed by their "generous" leaders.

That is not the way of sustainable development.

^^^^
In your first post on this thread, you said only education deserves subsidies. Do you still hold this view?

anonimi: STOP the lies.
The Bible does not promote any capitalism for CHRISTians. Quite the contrary.
Jesus Christ had a common purse with his 12 Apostles from where their daily needs were met. The first CHRISTians continued that practice as documented here:



I will advise you to read the Bible yourself and ask the Holy Spirit to give you understanding directly rather than base your life on the interpretation of others who may have an agenda
To make it worse you even have to buy their books, which are simply their own understanding of the scriptures.
SMH!

Nothing is wrong with people voluntarily coming together and having everything in common if they so privately choose to so do. The examples that you gave in the bible were all done on a voluntary basis, not enforced. With Jesus and the disciples it was all voluntary and it was only limited to money all else they owned privately, also they weren't forbidden to also have their own private money in addition to the common purse. With the first Christians in Jerusalem only, it was all voluntary Acts 5:4. Also they voluntarily brought all of their possessions to the church not to the government. Even then this practice of the first Christians at Jerusalem only, bankrupted them when they gave away all of their possessions and Paul had to spend the rest of his ministry picking up contributions from other Christians (who didn't have such a practice) to support them. We have no record in the bible of this practice been done anywhere else by the early Christians.

Socialism and communism (they don't recognize private property) are enforced by the government, etc. this is totally different to the bible voluntary practice.
The commandment says don't steal, you can't steal something from someone if they don't own it as private property. This is capitalism.
Another commandment says, Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his man-servant, nor his maid-servant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor's." - (ASV) American Standard Version. This is private property, capitalism again, once you have true private property you have capitalism. Jesus kept the commandments therefore He taught capitalism.

In Matthew 20:1–16, Matthew 25:14-30, etc. Jesus use capitalism in parables to teach spiritual truths.

I think you are the one who should study the bible properly and stop let the communist and socialist advocates fool you.

gbrookes02: Nothing is wrong with people voluntarily coming together and having everything in common if they so privately choose to so do. The examples that you gave in the bible were all done on a voluntary basis, not enforced.

Again you are wrong.
When you join a club/ society, you abide by its rules which are COMPULSORY for its members. That was the case for Jesus and his Apostles as well as with the first group of CHRISTians (those who were living Christ-like)
The stroy of Ananias and his wife below clearly illustrates that point.

But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. 3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. 5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. 6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him. 7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. 8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much. 9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. 10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband. 11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

[url=http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Acts+5%3A1-11&ver=kjv]Acts 5[/url]

My dear brother, please read and study your Bible asking the Holy Spirit to guide your understanding.

Socialism and communism (they don't recognize private property) are enforced by the government, etc. this is totally different to the bible voluntary practice.
The commandment says don't steal, you can't steal something from someone if they don't own it as private property. This is capitalism.

I am sure you know what you wrote their is just stretching the fact as it is.
There were cases of stealing in the old Soviet Union and there are such in North Korea and Cuba because some items are still held privately as there is no ABSOLUTE communism.

VolvoS60: ^^^^
In your first post on this thread, you said only education deserves subsidies. Do you still hold this view?

Yes in a very GENERALISED way.

anonimi: Yes in a very GENERALISED way.

^^^^How do you mean "ïn a very generalised way"? I am going somewhere with these questions. I find it a bit odd that you single out education for special attention. Are there no other goods with positive externalities which deserve government subsidies? Why education alone?

VolvoS60: ^^^^How do you mean "ïn a very generalised way"? I am going somewhere with these questions. I find it a bit odd that you single out education for special attention. Are there no other goods with positive externalities which deserve government subsidies? Why education alone?

What other goods do you have in mind?

anonimi: Again you are wrong.
When you join a club/ society, you abide by its rules which are COMPULSORY for its members. That was the case for Jesus and his Apostles as well as with the first group of CHRISTians (those who were living Christ-like)
The stroy of Ananias and his wife below clearly illustrates that point.



My dear brother, please read and study your Bible asking the Holy Spirit to guide your understanding.



I am sure you know what you wrote their is just stretching the fact as it is.
There were cases of stealing in the old Soviet Union and there are such in North Korea and Cuba because some items are still held privately as there is no ABSOLUTE communism.

Where in the bible does it tells us Jesus and his Apostles were forced to hold everything or anything in common? Concerning the early Christians only those at Jerusalem held everything in common and even then it was all voluntary, Acts 5:4.

If communist or socialist countries allow private property then to that degree its capitalist and in line with the bible.

Socialism and communism (they don't recognize private property) are enforced by the government, etc. this is totally different to the bible voluntary practice.
The commandment says don't steal, you can't steal something from someone if they don't own it as private property. This is capitalism.
Another commandment says, Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his man-servant, nor his maid-servant, nor his ox, nor his Bottom, nor anything that is thy neighbor's." - (ASV) American Standard Version. This is private property, capitalism again, once you have true private property you have capitalism. Jesus kept the commandments therefore He taught capitalism.

So as far as where a government is enforcing Socialism and communism its going against the bible.

In Matthew 20:1–16, Matthew 25:14-30, etc. Jesus use capitalism in parables to teach spiritual truths.

I think you are the one who should study the bible properly and stop let the communist and socialist advocates fool you.

anonimi: What other goods do you have in mind?

Healthcare.

VolvoS60: Healthcare.

Yes to PRIMARY healthcare with strict qualifying income & family size criteria depending on what stage the particular society is in.

The issue with subsidies is to avoid abuse and create economic inefficiencies even in so-called developed societies and the difficulty of scrapping them or making them more strict after the difficult phase they were supposed to address has passed.

You have conceded that primary healthcare is worthy of subsidies. At first it seemed that only education passed the qualifying test. Don't you think there are still other goods worthy of subsidies? We are now two up and still counting. . .