chukwudi44: Okpaleke is already the bishop.You people can protest from now till thy kingdom come.

I think what the church hierachy should do is close down the ahiara diocese and put it under owerri

mafifle:

And what are you waiting for? Why enlisting the help of people re-instate him through the backdoor if you ahd all the might to close the diocese.

Why not mind your business than poking your juvenile mouth into other peoples business.

mafifle:

And what are you waiting for? Why enlisting the help of people re-instate him through the backdoor if you ahd all the might to close the diocese.

Why not mind your business than poking your juvenile mouth into other peoples business.

Sunny_bobo:

Why bring the issue to a public forum if you didn't want people to poke their noses into it?

Well, Okoakaeke has been consecrated and there is nothing a million of your types can do about it other than having heart attacks. Bunch of clowns.

Okoakaeke

mafifle:

I pity you. When this your "clowns" finish with you and your likes you will never try to take people for granted again. Why has he not taken canonical possession of the diocese if your might was as strong as your mouth.

I am just wandering the reason for this desperation to have your buried na ala mbaise.

chukwudi44:

What do you mean by "reinstate him" was he ever dethroned as the bishop of ahiara diocese?

Sunny_bobo:

I guess you are the type that one would kill first before going after a snake. Efulefu

mafifle:

Well that is if i will give you the opportunity to think of killing me. Since dead people don't think.

Sunny_bobo:

Your people should think more of how to rehabilitate thousands of their sisters and dughters who are prostituting in Lagos.

tpia@:
so, who is running this diocese in the meantime?

chukwudi44:

Okpaleke has been appointed as the substantive bishop of ahiara diocese.He is the only one recognised by rome to run the diocese and all correspondences about the diocese must go from him to rome or the CBCN.

The ekwulobia diocese does not exist and no bishop has been appointed for it.Whenever it is created the pope will appoint someone to take charge of that diocese.

The catholic church will rather close down the ahiara diocese than succumb to the antics of renegades masquarading as priests and their thug laity collaborators.

We have seen them before in the church history.Mbaise people are even just too small and represent an insignificant percentage of the catholic church.

Marotzke: Mr Mafifle abi Mr Maphite (confra man), It is very obvious that you are a part of the propaganda team of the Mbaise resistance group. I have no problem with that. I also don't have any problem with you sponsoring topics on nairaland promoting your group interests(whether anarchist or not).But Nna Men say something sensible and factual. (1) The Bishop's name is Bishop Peter Ebele Okpalaeke not Kelechi Okpaleke,(you don't even know the name of the man that you are opposing) what else are you ignorant of?(2) it is amazing that you people are beating about the bush looking for the promoters of Okpalaeke's Episcopacy, They are (A) His holiness Pope Francis 1, (b) His Eminence Marc Cardinal Ouellete ; Arc bishop of Quebec, Catholic Primate of Canada, PREFECT of THE CONGREGATION FOR BISHOPS. This is the body charged with with the appointments, promotions and discipline of Bishops. Not the pope, or Francis Cardinal Arinze.(prefect emeritus congregation for divine worship and the discpline of sacraments) (c) His grace Arc Bishop Ignatius Kpasuja Papal Nuncio (d) His Eminence John Cardinal Onaiyekan Arc Bishop of Abuja and Chief consecrator in the Episcopal ordination of his Lordship Bishop Peter Ebelechukwu Okpalaeke. These are the people promoting Okpalaeke as Bishop of Ahiara Diocese not some faceless priests, knights or Anambra business men. speaking of business, is this what you people have reduced Episcopal ordination to ? Naira and kobo? Okpalaeke is coming to to take away business from Mbaise priests? Which should be resisted with every arsenal available? like lies , calumny, disregard and disrespect for constituted Authority?This is the Catholic church for God's sake not some backyard spiritual organization. If you think Cardinals will sit by and allow a fellow cardinal build a cartel inside the church , then you don't know anything about the administration of the Catholic Church. These princes don't think in the pedestrian manner as you do. The above mentioned priests are well versed in the art of dealing with renegades , apostates and protestants. That is why the mother church have been around for two thousand years.

chukwudi44:

Okpaleke has been appointed as the substantive bishop of ahiara diocese.He is the only one recognised by rome to run the diocese and all correspondences about the diocese must go from him to rome or the CBCN.

The ekwulobia diocese does not exist and no bishop has been appointed for it.Whenever it is created the pope will appoint someone to take charge of that diocese.

The catholic church will rather close down the ahiara diocese than succumb to the antics of renegades masquarading as priests and their thug laity collaborators.

We have seen them before in the church history.Mbaise people are even just too small and represent an insignificant percentage of the catholic church.

mafifle:


what trash are you spinning. You are not even making any sense. Please make sense and revert. You should be the dumbest person in history to think that all these revered Cardinals you have mentioned are not politically motivated. This is not the discussion for today.

Extending your myopic reasoning and being blinded by craze chase for your final objective, you have failled to realise that this is a failed venture.

Let me open your blinded eyes to the fact that this is a success story for "Mbaise resistance group"

Can. 382 §1 A person who is promoted to the episcopate cannot become involved in the exercise of the office entrusted to him before he has taken canonical possession §2.

§2 Unless he is lawfully impeded, one who is not already consecrated a Bishop and is now promoted to the office of diocesan Bishop, must take canonical possession of his diocese within four months of receiving the apostolic letters. If he is already consecrated, he must take possession within two months of receiving the apostolic letters.

§3 A Bishop takes canonical possession of his diocese when, personally or by proxy, he shows the apostolic letters to the college of consultors, in the presence of the chancellor of the curia, who makes a record of the fact. This must take place within the diocese. In dioceses which are newly established he takes possession when he communicates the same letters to the clergy and the people in the cathedral church, with the senior of the priests present making a record of the fact.


politically motivated by what? What material or influence can any Catholic offer the pope or senior cardinals? Reducing every thing to materialism is what I have problems with. Okpalaeke can be or cannot be bishop of Ahiara diocese. No one was born a general overseer. Insulting dignitaries, mocking authorities, denigrating eminent people to achieve materialistic desires, might be expedient now , what of tomorrow? it is very obvious that you are not a priest of the Catholic church , might not even be a Catholic, whoever is giving you disjointed lectures on canonical laws and inciting you to violence, disobedience and rebellion is not doing you any good. Today you are revelling with the tag resistance group, don't cry when you are discarded after being used to achieve objectives beyond your cognitive capacity. Those that instigate 'rebellion rarely make good leaders when their anarchists desires come to pass.

[/quote]§2 Unless he is lawfully impeded, one who is not already consecrated a Bishop and is now promoted to the office of diocesan Bishop, must take canonical possession of his diocese within four months of receiving the apostolic letters. If he is already consecrated, he must take possession within two months of receiving the apostolic letters. [quote]

Okoro2015:

In the drive to bring all souls to God, How dare you call Mbaise clan insignificant? Hijacking every post on this subject won't help the matter. Justice will prevail at the end of the day. For your first paragraph, i urge you to read canon 382. I wonder what is holding the closure of Mbaise church if indeed they have disobeyed the Pope.

chukwudi44:

I wonder if you know the meaning of the word'justice'.You want to know what is holding the closure of the diocese? Patience.Yes patience ,the church is only being patient with you thugs and will wield the big stick @ the right time if the crisis persists.Just imagine an insignificant bunch thinking they can hold the catholic church to ransom.You might end up with an mbaise catholic church complete with an mbaise pope.

mafifle:

We are waiting for when this your masqueraded patience will elapse. Who told you that the Mbaises has issues with the Pope or the Church? The issue is with you wolves in sheeps skin and your cult of desperados.

You have not seen any thing yet and your shouting, when you see something what will you do!

chukwudi44:

Okpaleke has been appointed as the substantive bishop of ahiara diocese.He is the only one recognised by rome to run the diocese and all correspondences about the diocese must go from him to rome or the CBCN.

The ekwulobia diocese does not exist and no bishop has been appointed for it.Whenever it is created the pope will appoint someone to take charge of that diocese.

The catholic church will rather close down the ahiara diocese than succumb to the antics of renegades masquarading as priests and their thug laity collaborators.

We have seen them before in the church history.Mbaise people are even just too small and represent an insignificant percentage of the catholic church.

Sunny_bobo:

Why bring the issue to a public forum if you didn't want people to poke their noses into it?

Well, Okpalaeke has been consecrated and there is nothing a million of your types can do about it other than having heart attacks. Bunch of clowns.

hurricaneChris:

Chukwudi I agree and support that d church wud rather close than to succumb to the unnecessary logic of my people....Ndi Mbaise!

But calling our catholic percentage "insignificant" is totally laughable and shows hw cluelez you are about the catholic faith in Mbaise.

The number Priests of Mbaise origin is d highest compared to any oda diocese in Nigeria....do ur research. I don't knw ur diocese, but am sure of my statistics.

But in everytin, I stand by the supremacy of Vatican rule over Mbaise rule.

Benedictus Dominae tibi mater ecclesae...dominus vobiscum

mafifle:

We are waiting for when this your masqueraded patience will elapse. Who told you that the Mbaises has issues with the Pope or the Church? The issue is with you wolves in sheeps skin and your cult of desperados.

You have not seen any thing yet and your shouting, when you see something what will you do!

Sunny_bobo:

Your people should think more of how to rehabilitate thousands of their sisters and dughters who are prostituting in Lagos.

chukwudi44:

The catholic church excommunicated over 5million catholics and their renegade bishops appointed by the chinese gobernment.you will agree with me that mbaise catholics are quite insignificant when compared to these figures.

By the way Agulu people produce priests more than a pure water company manufactures water and yet they are not making noise.

It will take the church notting to effect the excommunication of the mbaise church.That is my point.