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Interesting Argument On Facebook About Nigeria's Problems by NessaFresh(f): 7:15pm On Aug 10, 2013
Day by day debate on Nigeria's situation. See the argument trending on facebook today.


Meshach 'Andy Blaze' Augustine
Nigeria - The only country where people believe
Electricity comes from God. Over the years the Psyche
of the people always make them believe saying 'Chai
God abeg make light come today' will actually work.
Failed System Innit?
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Re: Interesting Argument On Facebook About Nigeria's Problems by NessaFresh(f): 7:20pm On Aug 10, 2013
Fünkÿ Blüé Bãrbîè
My friend na true talk
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Jumoke Samuel Cleverly
God made the world outta nutin.so ders nutin wrong if
sum1 says tru faith and confess,dat pls God bring
lite.its not ignorance,but faith.ders nutin difficult 4
God.nomata how the world hve tried to mke him small.
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Meshach 'Andy Blaze' Augustine
This is the problem with Nigerians. God!God!God! Even
the simpliest of things which you could do on your own,
you want God to leave his dominion and come down to
help you. It is baseless to state that you'll have to have
faith in God before PHCN supplies you power. The
nation has the responsibility of putting it place the
relevant structures for power. God has given you the
resources, Use it yourself. Will God come down to
switch the power on for you? Will God magically
provide the amount of Watts needed?
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Nelly Sylvester
It's Laziness and that's why they sit in darkness daily
even though their God clearly said those who don't
work may not eat!!! Lazy nation who consumes n
consumes n consumes but no productivity!!
Just picture God looking down upon a lazy nation full of
people waiting for him to do everything for him!
My mother never used to want to hear us cry hungry
because there is food in the house but we are too lazy
to cook it and eat or we are waiting for her as our slave
to come and cook the food for us! But if there was no
food, then we can cry, that's okay according to her!
Does it not make sense?
Imagine if you were a rich man and have a bunch of
houses filled with material goods and children and
some children in one house enlarged the house and
made it more beautiful by being the best carpenters
and engineers and lights the house up and supply even
extra to the poor nebors:
but another house with other children and equal goods
supplied by you sit in the house and consume
everything and live in darkness and shout faith in you,
that you will come down in your old age to come and
cook and clean and repair and build and enlarge the
house for them!!? and year after year and after year,
you rest and watch and don't respond and continue to
bless the other houses with your hard working children
and they grow and live longer and healthier and rich
lives but the poor ones believe they and only they who
are lazy are the ones who have faith but the well-off
ones living advanced lives in rich countries do not!?
Clever Jumoke, you now see that your so called faith is
laziness and that you are only clever or wise in your
own eyes!
Keep waiting for God, okay! Let the youth of nigeria
keep specializing in 419 and laziness why the
politicians take your goods and cash and bring it to our
banks in the Western World were we use it to develop
the seed of the world God gave us even more and live
rich healthy lives!
(Oh, some of us realized that we don't like the laziness
of some of Gods children in one of his houses (nigeria)
and so we left to go and meet other children in the
better houses were we can join them to work hard and
enjoy great lives...so we live in advanced oversea
countries now and we learn God does not supply
electricity since he gave us dominion over his earth and
we work very hard like the other children of God in
these parts of his earth and enjoy the fruits)
See! Simply. Keep sowing faith but remember faith
without work is dead! Lazy people and even lazier
thinkers...
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Re: Interesting Argument On Facebook About Nigeria's Problems by NessaFresh(f): 7:25pm On Aug 10, 2013
Jumoke Samuel Cleverly
nelly tanks for the insult. but my faith dsnt encourage
anyone to be lazy,.. abraham wsnt,moses,david,gideon
ĄЙd̶̲̥̅̊ jesus christ himself wsnt lazy @all.. ĄЙd̶̲̥̅̊ am a
working lady,who has her own business,ĄЙd̶̲̥̅̊ I don't sit
ĄЙd̶̲̥̅̊ xpect God to work for •̸Ϟ ﻉ..he said he'll prosper the
works of my hands.. but Ʋ can insult •̸Ϟﻉ.. @andy..ders
nutin wrong if we call God on everything.it dsnt makes
us lazy!! there are a lot of rich christains.. but my
opinion ĄЙd̶̲̥̅̊ belief... nomata how anybody insults •̸Ϟ ﻉ,Ʋ
can't shut •̸Ϟﻉ up,am to big to react to petty things
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Junetha Kokui O
#Meshach!!!!!
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Nelly Sylvester
@ Jumoke Clever Samuel
You talking shiit woman, and only foolish people
respond to messages on a topic and then leave that
thread to go attack others who disagree with them on
their private pages with private messages!
I can see that you are really jobless now!
Do u know me or is there something else??
Umma ask ya again, do you know me just becos you
say you know Val?
U think I'm some stupid boyfriend of urs that you talk
to as you pleased!
Get the hell out of my private page and take this
conversation to the page where everyone can see your
attacks and comments since you say you are the
humble, praying Christian and I'm the bad guy!
Foolish people Talk about God as if they know him and
then break every single rule he has laid down!
You must think you are very important because you say
you own ur own business ...but I will not let you know
what I think about that!
Do you have to buy a generator to run the business?
How many Naija people die from generator fumes last
night or last week or last month?
How many people could not sleep well because of
generator noise??
How many business fail due to lack of light?
Oh...I forget Naija mentality as long as u have ur own
business and your life is okay then everything is
good!!? Right?
Nigerians as a people are lazy n greedy but can you
prove they are not!!
Madam business woman, this is not about you and
don't attack me any further ...you are however free to
attack the issue of Nigerians praying for lights!
If u disregard my warnings to stop attacking me with
private messages...then, umma take it you wish to be
attacked right back, k
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Jumoke Samuel Cleverly
Sori O! Rasta nelly.am not attacking Ʋ O!!but if Ʋ feel
attacked,its urself attacking Ʋ. Ω̶̣̣̥̇̊ọ̥ need for all dis long
talk.I inboxd Ʋ to talk to Ʋ as a sensible person.but I
was wrong, Ω̶̣̣̥̇̊ọ̥ vex..never called Ʋ a bad guy,if Ʋ feel ur
bad,ur trouble..but sori rasta man.my bad.it won't cost
•̸Ϟ ﻉ constipation to eat my words back..
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Kanach Nwizu Charles
Oboy, c lectures... Makin sense.
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Meshach 'Andy Blaze' Augustine
#Junetha!!!
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Re: Interesting Argument On Facebook About Nigeria's Problems by NessaFresh(f): 7:32pm On Aug 10, 2013
Nelly Sylvester
From Jumoke: God will humble Ʋ one day,ĄЙd̶̲̥̅̊ then
you'll learn how to talk,maybe. Shalom,remain blessed
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Jumoke Samuel Cleverly
andy.religion is di4rnt 4rm being Godly. If we had
Godly leaders and not religious leaders,tins wuldv been
di4rnt.dat was the point i was tryna make. In all,i cant
fit run 9ja down,one day we'll have good leaders,and i
thank God 9jerians r now aware of sumtins dey were
ignorant of b4. In due time. Wen e beta all our brodas
living abroad na dat time dem go know say naija great!
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Nelly Sylvester
I just posted the last 2 private messages this woman is
sending to my box to abuse me so the readers can see!
Anyways, dumb pipo can be very hard to deal
with...you have ur small business, pray everyday and
do church seat-ins and think you have arrived and
when the rest of us worry about nigeria and the
suffering there you say wow...prayers works, these pipo
don't know! So, u attack!
Keep praying for electricity to help light up your heart n
blind eyes woman...
You only know what you can see and if only you know
what is out in the world where you have never
been...then you will know how miserable and wretched
your life truly is!
You seemed to think somehow everyone will fail in their
lives and come to you for help one day...becos you
believe in God and other don't?? Lolz. Keep waiting...
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Jumoke Samuel Cleverly
wow. Valerie was right.not muvd.keep talkin nelly. Tank
God am wretched o!hnn. But no be me be ur whitey
wey go don piss u off o!nelly. U marry her 4 green
card,deal with it.but if abusing me,gives u peace,pls by
all means continue ranting.my dog sheila barks more
wen she's being ignored. Carry on rasta man!jah bless.
see drama,i beg lite no dey,dis na entertainment.kip on
amusing me nelly boy
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Nelly Sylvester
My Guy Meshach nigeria is one of the most corrupt lazy
godless land in the world but they also preach the most
and is one of the poorest nations in earth!
Don't worry, we get your points!
We must keep talking about the Nigerian situation and
working hard to change it!
Miss clever can go to church and pray for lights for the
rest if time...it will never work!
Only hard work, discipline and ingenuity will build
nigeria into an advanced nation with constant
electricity...great health care, educated pipo who enjoy
long lives as God wants!
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Meshach 'Andy Blaze' Augustine
#MRS Jumoke Hahahahahaha I laugh in pakistani at
your pitying subscription to that delusional Nigerian
norm of saying ''One day, E Go Better'' ! That same
statement has been said by our fathers and grannies
and generations to come will repeat it. Do you think a
''Godly'' man could ever ascend the apex triangle of our
federation? Before he even begins his campaign, his
mouth would have be shut closed forever by the evil
eggs and godfathers who run the show. The States
itself is not perfect but i tell you, Life in the states is
alot more peaceful, progressive and secured than that
in Nigeria. Is God the one making it that way for them?
NO! Even an atheist president who is principled can
make a nation work! But then, this nation Nigerian
doesn't seem to be working. Come to the embassies at
Abuja and see the amount of youths who have lost
faith in the nation and are willing to trade their
freedom in their homeland for contemporary thralldom
in a state with a better system abroad
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Nelly Sylvester
Lastly at Jumoke clever Miss: The last time I was in
nigeria, I was told people like you are called "suffering
and smiling Nigerians"
If only you know how truly and utterly uninformed and
miserable your life is...!
Those whom Jah bless no man can curse!
Keep hoping that everyone will fail one day and come
beg you for food, okay...because God loves only you n you
alone! K
Go visit your pastor and pray that God humble me so I
can come n bow before you and beg you for food, k!
May everything you wish for my life return to your head
and your family ten fold - be it good or bad!
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Jumoke Samuel Cleverly
so blaze.wot is ur solution?lets kill the pple in power?
cus wen u finish talkin,u have to have a solution.
Nelly,yep! I'll keep prayn rasta man,u can be sure of
that.
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Meshach 'Andy Blaze' Augustine
Nelly has said it all - Ingenuity, Sincere change,
Reduction of the rate of corruption, Making the nigerian
system more mass friendly and many more are good
enough solutions
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Meshach 'Andy Blaze' Augustine
BTW You and Nelly sef ehn...lol abeg you guys should
return your daggers back to its sheath and respect
each others differing opinion, we are all making good
points in our varying philosophies of the catalysts of
change necessary for nigeria
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Re: Interesting Argument On Facebook About Nigeria's Problems by NessaFresh(f): 7:35pm On Aug 10, 2013
Akinwole Dudesuperfly Awe
^^ Which "States" are you talking about?
Hope it's not the "states" in the continent of North
America?
If it is, it will be delusional to compare Nigeria, a
country of just over 50 years, to the "States", a country
of over 250 years!
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Re: Interesting Argument On Facebook About Nigeria's Problems by NessaFresh(f): 7:38pm On Aug 10, 2013
Meshach 'Andy Blaze' Augustine
Would it also be delusional to compare Nigeria with
even South Africa or Ghana? They are within the range
of our independent age bracket but yet they seem to
be moving a lot more faster towards complete
civilization than this your Kleptocracy-ran Nigeria.
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Akinwole Dudesuperfly Awe
Who is this Nelly casting aspersions at Nigeria?
Is Nigeria the worst nation in the world?
How, in all ramifications, can you compare America
with Nigeria?
Isn't that weird?
Though, we know that Nigeria has been in the
doldrums for years due to corruption in high places by
our thieving leaders and the colonization and capitalist
system by the west.
That, however, shouldn't give you the gut to denigrate
Nigeria with impunity!
I still believe that one day, Nigeria is gonna be the
pride of Africa, with the right leaders voted in power.
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Meshach 'Andy Blaze' Augustine
True be told, bro! If you have found yourself at the
sorry end of the economic ladder no matter how much
effort and hardwork u put into your job, if you find
yourself in a nation you have to spend 5-6 years in the
university for a course which could have taken
originally 4 years due to Strikes, if you find yourself in a
nation where the middle class is been eliminated and
the gap between the rich and the poor gets enormous
day after day, if you find yourself in a country where
your business gets crippled due to incessant power
failure and security hitches and your income gets
reduced due to the amount of money you have to
spend on gasoline every day AND you get the
opportunity to be in a nation where things actually
work, security actually works, 9-1-1 is actually working,
the society is actually progressive and less antagonistic
to your pocket once your hardworking, pay your tax
and abide by the laws then there is no way you
wouldn't sound like #NELLY. I am with him on this.
When you get the opportunity to experience life in
other countries, you will get to know that you have
been in an ''earthly form of hell'' called Nigeria.
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Re: Interesting Argument On Facebook About Nigeria's Problems by NessaFresh(f): 7:42pm On Aug 10, 2013
Akinwole Dudesuperfly Awe
What are you on about, Andy?
Juxtapose Nigeria's population, culture and tribal
differences with South Africa's or Ghana's, and do the
comparison.
Nigeria is an heterogenous and multi faceted state, for
crying out loud!
If Ghana or South Africa is faced with Nigeria's
overbloated population, or massive tribal difference,
you think those countries would be better off than
Nigeria?
The number one challenge that Nigeria, as a Nation,
has is from Culture and Tribal perspective.
An Hausa man would never want an Igbo man to rule
Nigeria, even if he(the Igbo man) is the right person to
preside over the affairs of the country, due to nepotism,
bigotry and Tribalism.
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Akinwole Dudesuperfly Awe
Yes, Nigeria is a hell on earth!
But you should never compare a third world nation,
Nigeria, to a First world nation, America.
What would you have done, if you were born in
Afghanistan or Somalia?
Commit suicide or go seek asylum in a neighbouring
nation?
Or aren't people living in those countries humans?
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Nelly Sylvester
At Akinwole I would have responded to you if after you
attacked me, you have had the decency to address the
original issue of Nigerians being the only people who
actually believe and pray to God for electricity!
The fact that you did not, tells me volume about you
and also why nigeria is the way it is: persistent inability
to focus on what is important!
Given the choice between attacking the topic and a
contributor and acting - based solely on blind emotions
that prevent Nigerians from being able to focus; you
attacked me and did not respond to the issue Meshach
raised!
This is why I can not take you seriously.
Who I am is not important, so set your boundless fake
patriotism aside for a second and address the issue
raised!
Do you know why you should, because since you don't
know me and I do t know you...there is a very tiny
possibility that I may have already invested more
towards the development of nigeria than u have and
that may give me the right to sound the way I do about
the situation there!
It is this what ifs(?) that makes us put breaks on when
we attack strangers!
Your population talk and the rest of your unintelligent
banta have been addressed by Blaze...so, umma pass!
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Meshach 'Andy Blaze' Augustine
Just as Nelly said, Akinwole you have twisted the whole
argument fallaciously. Instead of tackling what is at
hand you are trying to excuse Nigeria by mentioning
the Somalis and the rest
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Akinwole Dudesuperfly Awe
^^ Mtsheeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!
You can continue to rant, for all I care.
All I know is, you have got no right to denigrate Nigeria
with such lucid impunity!
And, who says I have taken you seriously?
Do I know who you are?
Does your opinion and reckless talk count in the
development of Nigeria?
Your unbridled ranting on the internet is baseless!
You can as well come back to Nigeria and contribute
your quota to the development of Nigeria.
So many Nigerians have never gotten to the shores of
America but they are thriving here in their fatherland.
You and Meshach make it sound as though one must
leave Nigeria to make it in life.
Nigeria is bad, agreed. But I am gonna make it in the
face of corruption and challenges facing the country.
I'm out!
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Nelly Sylvester
Nigerian politician from every conceivable tribe of the
nation gather daily to share the wealth of the nation,
loot and embezzle and ship the cash to Western Banks
without killing each others and some uninformed
comes here to say that nigeria is the nation with most
tribes on earth, hence it is not working!
Nigeria's population is too much!! Hahahahahahaha!!
Is the issue 'nigeria has the most tribes' or that
'Nigerians are the most tribalistic'??
Blaze already asked about China with 1.3billion
humans!!?
The more one try to bring out the issues so we can start
to look at potential solutions...the more one is
attacked!
There is the Nigerian thieving politician, the pastors
and those who insist things are fine the way they are n
then of-course the nigerian: not sure who is more
responsible for nigeria as it is:
Either way, I think the problem with nigeria is Nigerians
actually...and I can defend this belief any day!
I've had my say
By virtue of where I was educated, my reasoning is
superior to yours Akinwole and the deflections you
bring by attacking people and what ever else you try to
do will never work with me! I have the ability to focus
that you can only imagine...
So, your tactics may work easily with others but not
here...when you are ready to address why Nigerians
pray for electricity (this is actually only symptomatic)
then we may have a conversation if not a conversion...
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Akinwole Dudesuperfly Awe
Meshach, you have started smoking again, right?
Didn't you see where I enunciated Nigeria's problem
and how I said I am hopeful Nigeria is still gonna rise to
the rostrum among the comity of nations, despite our
many challenges as a sovereign nation?
So, I have twisted the whole discourse because I didn't
join the bandwagon of casting aspersions at my
country?
So, I have twisted the discourse because I defended my
fatherland?
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Re: Interesting Argument On Facebook About Nigeria's Problems by NessaFresh(f): 8:10pm On Aug 10, 2013
Akinwole Dudesuperfly Awe
You just keep going round in circles!
Does one need to leave Nigeria to the States or China
to make it?
Jeez! Who are these people I'm arguing with, for crying
out loud?
How do you compare China's population, a first world
country, and apparently, the most powerful nation in
the world, to Nigeria's, a third world country?
I said juxtapose and compare Nigeria's population and
cultural diversity with Ghana's or South Africa's, and
here you and Meshach are, bringing China into the
discourse.
Na wah o!
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Nelly Sylvester
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Again lack of focus @ Akinwole "does one need to leave
nigeria to The States or China to make it" was never
the issue raised and your heated emotions and sub-per
education have actually blinded you to this simple fact!
You have an agenda that wish to argue but this is not
the time to do that...
Some of us have made it so we are not obsessed with
making it anymore.
Lets try gently to bring you back to the original issue
and I'm sure by now if any of your college profs where
following this...they would be shocked: why do
Nigerians pray for electricity!?
Ugh, China is not a 1st world or developed country
anymore than nigeria is: it's called an emerging
market!
China's populations averages about $3000 per year in
productivity and 1st world advanced nations usually
are in the $30,000 to $40,000 plus!
Get your facts but still, the issue of China and
population is irrelevant here...anyhow.
Address the original issue...show some focus
Are the Chinese not leaving China to move to nigeria or
Ghana or the States or some other advanced or poor
nations??
Why can Nigerians not leave nigeria if they choose
to...and what does that have to do with Nigerians in
nigeria praying for electricity from God!??
There are tens of thousands of US citizens here so why
can in your opinion Nigerians not leave nigeria if they
don't like it there?
Who said everyone must leave to make it?
Why can u not focus??
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Meshach 'Andy Blaze' Augustine
What's has population has to do with the "Ogas at the
top" who keep stealing billions and billions of dollars
which should be used to better the lot of the nation?
Yes every nation has its own problems, but then since u
wanna bring population to the fore, I wanna make use
of China and Usa; these are two nations with a large
number of populace yet due to the good systems put in
place by the government of these nations there is less
disturbing amount of unemployment. But then in a
lesser populated Nigeria, the rate of unemployment is
alarming. Even lucrative courses like Engineering get
their graduates stranded after service due to no work
but then this is a nation which has more than enough
resources and money with which enough jobs could be
provided for the people.
Re: Interesting Argument On Facebook About Nigeria's Problems by oshyno(m): 9:20pm On Aug 10, 2013
I cant believe i had to go through the whole write up. Irrespective of how engaging and sometimes utter trash soo many of them sounded , I wud want to draw one thing here : It seems most of these Americana ( in the voice of Chimamanda Adichie ) looks at Nigeria as a shithole where one cant make it.

I beleive Nelly on the fact that u dont pray to God to come do what ur supposed to do for ursef, like praying for light to be restored.But denigrating the entire citizens for how Nigeria is is utter rubbish.
Re: Interesting Argument On Facebook About Nigeria's Problems by jpphilips(m): 3:38pm On Nov 05, 2013
oshyno: I cant believe i had to go through the whole write up. Irrespective of how engaging and sometimes utter trash soo many of them sounded , I wud want to draw one thing here : It seems most of these Americana ( in the voice of Chimamanda Adichie ) looks at Nigeria as a shithole where one cant make it.

I beleive Nelly on the fact that u dont pray to God to come do what ur supposed to do for ursef, like praying for light to be restored.But denigrating the entire citizens for how Nigeria is is utter rubbish.

You don't need to be an Americana to know that Naija is a shit hole

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