eGuerrilla:

While I would again make clear that the faith-based ministries along that axis have a duty of care to ensure the rights of travelers are not infringed upon, of course, I recognise that the main problem lies with town planning agencies who have failed to discharge their oversight functions. @AjanleKoko's illustrative post provides further confirmation that feasibility study on environmental impact is often jettisoned once money changes hands in our corrupt society.

Sunnynwa: Joe IGBO kwe, those churches are headed by your hosts and you as a guest should not tell the host what to do in his land.

pastor prosper :
Author of this is thread go and hug NIPP power plant. The church is marching on and foools like u can do nothing about it.

Ola one:
I wonder oo.

Winners Chapel was chased out of Bermondsey by Council officials. Well, that na Obodo Oyinbo

pappilo:

KICC attempted to set up shop in Dagenham, Essex just off the A13 on Thames Gateway land after they were sent packing from Stratford. Them pursue them quick. The local complained about effects on their lives and they were refused planning permission. Now they are based in the middle of nowhere in Chatham where they cant disrupt peoples lives.

In countries where things are done with sense, if your proposed business, new housing development, place of worship e.t.c is going to affect the lives of the local population, the developer is compelled to contribute a significant amount to the improvement of transport links, health centres e.t.c

For example, In Shepherds Bush, London, Westfield invested £200 million out of a total £1.7 billion project cost on transport improvements in the local area delivering a brand new Tube and Overground station.

deeptesting:

The question is did they build the church on the road? Lagos-Ibadan road ought to be dualized to at lease accommodate 10 vehicles on each lane and ensure that all vehicles veering to these churches or whatever maintain a single lane...Where else should they locate this churches? I wish Joe Igbokwe proffered a solution in his write up. It's simply the failure of the government to live upto its responsibility and they should be held responsible for the sufferings and death of Nigerians on that road.

pastor prosper :
Author of this is thread go and hug NIPP power plant. The church is marching on and foools like u can do nothing about it.

occam: Churches are not to blame. Nigeria is in the throes of a massive population explosion, but we refuse to plan to accommodate this. Now this is just one of the results.

AjanleKoko:

How can you say churches are not to blame?

naptu2:

Even in Lagos, Bicourtney has been refused planning permission to convert the old Federal Secretariat into luxury flats and UAC were issued several "stop work" orders when they were renovating 1004, because the government was concerned about the effect the estate would have on the surrounding area.

FOLYKAZE: This problem is evolving from white men mental enslavement to Nigeria made mental enslavement....didn't they claim God is everywhere? Must they worship God in Lagos and disturb industries and residential folks sharing the same environment with them?

They should take their church to Bauchi....Adeboye should preach in the boko haram camp. That is where we need the gospel not lagos where people are busy working for their daily bread. Adeboye should start preaching in Saudi Arabia. We need land for industries in Nigeria not church. We want more organisations that will benefit unemployed Nigerian and the economy not church. We have had enough in our street. We have had enough disturbance at our door step. This madness must stop

Dominiquez: Imagine how IGBOKWE justified NASFAT cos his APC bosses are muslims. I foresee doom if APC take over power.
1) The will legalize child marriage
2)The will persecute the churches
3)Nigeria will be Islamized
4)Sharia law will be forced on us all.
5)Islamic banking will be order of the day.

We are watching.

pappilo:

Good. So why was the same not done for the churches on the express road? You dont necessarily have to refuse planning permission but they can be told to build a 100,000 seater auditorium instead of a 1 million seater, asked to construct roads as part of their development e.t.c

pastor prosper :
Author of this is thread go and hug NIPP power plant. The church is marching on and foools like u can do nothing about it.

Afolabs101: @eGuerilla - these churches stream their programmes online but people still insist in going to the programmes in person. You can not regulate the people that will come to your church programme. Will you advertise in the newspapers or give instructions to certain parishes that they are not allowed to come?

@topic -

1- There is free association of movement, so you can not reduce or control the people go to these services.
2- These churches do liaise with the FRSC and other govt agencies to try and reduce and control the traffic congestion.
3- Where else can these churches go? They must be on an expressway because of the large volume of people attending.
4- You can not tax a church because many people attend their site. You can place a toll on the road but there is no justification for taxing a church because lots of people attend. What about all the factories and all the trailers who ply the road.

The truth is we just have to grin and bear it and hope that govt fixes the road. Remember you don't need to tax the churches on that road because we already have enough provision for road construction and other infrastructure.

Odd-even license plate policy
This car has an even end number, therefore it could not go on public road space every other day.
On July 20, 2008, Beijing implemented a temporary road space rationing policy, odd-even rationing policy, by allowing cars that have an even last number of their license plates to be able to drive on roads in one day while the cars that have an odd last number of their license plates could go on the road the next day in order to improve air quality in the city during the 2008 Summer Olympics.[2][3] This policy does not affect taxis, public buses, yellow-plate vehicles (vehicles with more than 9 seats inclusive), police vehicles and military vehicles.

Neye1973: I am a Christian and have visited the redemption camp several times. For me,the blame should be laid on he step of both the government and the church. I have also lived abroad,specifically in the UK and and I know what is obtain in the country.
1. Who gave approval to redeem to open and expand the redemption camp
2. What has government done to stem the tide of gridlock.
3. What is redeem leadership doing about it. Are they saying they don't know

For me I suggest that government should charge all the churches,mosques,industries and school along the Lagos- Ibadan corridor,use the the money to build overhead bridge or underground from say Berger to shagamu. Also,institute extra charges for people carrying cars every first Friday.speak with the leaders of the church cos religion is a big thing in this country. Am sure,if you ask any redeem member,they won't see anything wrong,so we it has to be managed well

Regards

naija_swag: The name Joe Igbokwe attracted me to this post. Whom the gods want to kill they make him go mad. This is a man that has been in the news because of a gang up against his brothers. This is a real efulefu. Now he has taken his battle against the churches. CAN should reply him, I am very confident that the CAN president who is ever vibrant will have something good to say to him.

I remember reading Awolowo's Awo where the gods fought for themselves by killing a man who killed fishes in a certain River. An attack on churches is an attack on God. God will fight the war himself.

The last time I travelled from Lagos, the president was commissioning the construction of this same road at Sagamu interchange. Am sure Joe should be aware of that. Or is it just the hypocrisy of being in another party which is not the ruling party that has blinded his eyes or made him deaf to read or hear about the awarded contract on the news...

Joe Igbokwe, I weep for you.