http://vimeo.com/56395626

anyone have any idea how to embed the video from vimeo here

PAGAN 9JA:
http://vimeo.com/56395626

anyone have any idea how to embed the video from vimeo here

Sadly no Video embedding codes on this forum. Good video portraying Yan Arewa, more specifically great Hausa musicians.

hmm,. thats bad.

Im not sure they are Hausa, even though the drumming and instruments are Hausa. I feel most of this is copied from general durbar culture. (except for those retainers in black dress).

This area is dominated by Ngizimawa people, including the Mai ruler.

PAGAN 9JA:
hmm,. thats bad.

Im not sure they are Hausa, even though the drumming and instruments are Hausa. I feel most of this is copied from general durbar culture. (except for those retainers in black dress).

This area is dominated by Ngizimawa people, including the Mai ruler.

Aren't Ngizimawa a sub Hausa group? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Fulaman198:

Aren't Ngizimawa a sub Hausa group? Correct me if I'm wrong.

NO they are a separate ethnic group with their own language.

However they share close proximity and similarity with us. We are Chadic Sahelian peoples.

PAGAN 9JA:


NO they are a separate ethnic group with their own language.

However they share close proximity and similarity with us. We are Chadic Sahelian peoples.

Ok... thank you for clarifying that

You are right actually, they are from Beri-Beri people

Fulaman198: You are right actually, they are from Beri-Beri people

Well not exactly. THey certainly do live close to Kanuri poeples but they are still separate.

PAGAN 9JA:


Well not exactly. THey certainly do live close to Kanuri poeples but they are still separate.

Language wise, their language is very close to one another.

Fulaman198:

Language wise, their language is very close to one another.

yes we all have similarities. it is very possible.

PAGAN 9JA:
hmm,. thats bad.

Im not sure they are Hausa, even though the drumming and instruments are Hausa. I feel most of this is copied from general durbar culture. (except for those retainers in black dress).

This area is dominated by Ngizimawa people, including the Mai ruler

Were you referring to the machina folks? If yes you are wrong, machina emirate was ruled by the kanuri/manga/bare-bari since time immemorial, the ngizim has never settle in machina, their root is the place where they are still ruling upto this day which is potiskum.

WHξξ∟s:


Were you referring to the machina folks? If yes you are wrong, machina emirate was ruled by the kanuri/manga/bare-bari since time immemorial, the ngizim has never settle in machina, their root is the place where they are still ruling upto this day which is potiskum.

I thought they ruled Machina as well.

are you sure? Do you have any link?

Fulaman198:

Aren't Ngizimawa a sub Hausa group? Correct me if I'm wrong.

They were sub-Bade. Ngizim and Bade are sister languages, legend has it that they had common progenitor who once had two sons who are both worthy to the throne[Gogaram emirate] and to avoid the obvious strife to come, the king in his wisdom divide the kingdom and assigned each of the princes to rule part of the divided land. A fluent Bade speaker can communicate with Ngizim and they will understand each other without any difficulty.

Fulaman198: You are right actually, they are from Beri-Beri people

They are the bare-bari[machina]

PAGAN 9JA:


Well not exactly. THey certainly do live close to Kanuri poeples but they are still separate.

Machina is situated in northern Yobe which is hundred of kilometers from the Ngizim that lived in Yobe west. And the ngizim do not live close to the kanuri, they live with the Bole, Ngamo, and Kare-kare.

PAGAN 9JA:


I thought they ruled Machina as well

Nah, not even once.

WHξξ∟s:


They were sub-Bade. Ngizim and Bade are sister languages, legend has it that they had common progenitor who once had two sons who are both worthy to the throne[Gogaram emirate] and to avoid the obvious strife to come, the king in his wisdom divide the kingdom and assigned each of the princes to rule part of the divided land. A fluent Bade speaker can communicate with Ngizim and they will understand each other without any difficulty.

Interesting where are you from Wheels?

According to Wikipedia, Ngizim language and Bade language are Chadic Languages like Hausa.

WHξξ∟s:


They were sub-Bade. Ngizim and Bade are sister languages, legend has it that they had common progenitor who once had two sons who are both worthy to the throne[Gogaram emirate] and to avoid the obvious strife to come, the king in his wisdom divide the kingdom and assigned each of the princes to rule part of the divided land. A fluent Bade speaker can communicate with Ngizim and they will understand each other without any difficulty.

ok I did not know this story about the King. very interesting.

Fulaman198:

Interesting where are you from Wheels?

Yobe

Fulaman198: According to Wikipedia, Ngizim language and Bade language are Chadic Languages like Hausa.

Yeah, West chadic. And talking about wikipedia, how can one send an error report? On the list they have for nigerian traditional rulers and their ethnicity they mistakenly wrote kanuri as Bade emir's language.

WHξξ∟s:


Yobe




Yeah, West chadic. And talking about wikipedia, how can one send an error report? On the list they have for nigerian traditional rulers and their ethnicity they mistakenly wrote kanuri as Bade emir's language.

haha no wonder!

if you can share more info and pics it would be great. we can try to nominate this on frontpage and advertize Yobe.



As for wikipedia, make an account and change it yourself. It is a minor change and will go through a small period of screening and will be excepted. There is not much basis here for tampering.


Do you have the link to the list?

WHξξ∟s:


Yobe




Yeah, West chadic. And talking about wikipedia, how can one send an error report? On the list they have for nigerian traditional rulers and their ethnicity they mistakenly wrote kanuri as Bade emir's language.

Very nice, good to see another Northerner

Fulaman198:

Very nice, good to see another Northerner

True. very few of us.

THis site is owned by Ibos and Yorubas and their petty squabbles.

PAGAN 9JA:


haha no wonder!

if you can share more info and pics it would be great. we can try to nominate this on frontpage and advertize Yobe.

Really? I like to broaden my extracurriculars too, I was bored this days and I need something to get busy with, but hey this is yobe we are talking about, the BH state with tons of soldiers deployed on a daily basis and insurgents rattling people. With barricades everywhere I think this task is enermous.


Will try my luck anyways, I will soon be visiting Yobe, there are many books written about these emirates which am sure I will get if I reach there and I will see to it that I get as many pics as I can. I will holla when ready.

PAGAN 9JA:
As for wikipedia, make an account and change it yourself. It is a minor change and will go through a small period of screening and will be excepted. There is not much basis here for tampering.


Do you have the link to the list?

Here is the link

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_traditional_states

WHξξ∟s:


Really? I like to broaden my extracurriculars too, I was bored this days and I need something to get busy with, but hey this is yobe we are talking about, the BH state with tons of soldiers deployed on a daily basis and insurgents rattling people. With barricades everywhere I think this task is enermous.


Will try my luck anyways, I will soon be visiting Yobe, there are many books written about these emirates which am sure I will get if I reach there and I will see to it that I get as many pics as I can. I will holla when ready.



Here is the link

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_traditional_states

great!


ok thnx.

Fulaman198:

Very nice, good to see another Northerner

Good to see you.. I still don't know why we are few here, was it because of the fact that we have many sources of information or what?

WHξξ∟s:


Good to see you.. I still don't know why we are few here, was it because of the fact that we have many sources of information or what?

I am not too sure

WHees:


Were you referring to the machina folks? If yes you are wrong, machina emirate was ruled by the kanuri/manga/bare-bari since time immemorial, the ngizim has never settle in machina, their root is the place where they are still ruling upto this day which is potiskum.

1) The Ngizism formed and control the traditional system in Potiskum (even though, the Bolewa ruler of the more developed Fika Emirate has relocated to Potiskum since 1922).

2) However, Ngizism people are also found as co-owners of villages under Nangere and Funa LGAs of Yobe State and their language appear closer to the Bade Language of Gashua Emirate.

3) Machina is Kanuri or more correctly, Mangawa which is like an adulterated form of Kanuri.

4) Machina and Nguru are neighbours and speak similar Manga dialects of the Kanuri Language.