Bamsyle:

Hannibal et Hardballer, for now let's forget their hits, skills and all. Cos even with those perimeters, I still won't place Em on the same level with Nas.

Now, let's talk about a battle. Hannibal, as much as I can't pre-empt either of both cats, ^{*they're both good no doubt*} I'll still tell you to slow down on this your Eminem Campaign. You analyse rap artistes well. But I think you sometimes blow their abilities out of proportion. How can you ask if any of Nas' albums can be compared with Em's Marshall Mathers? And then I'm sure you had a re-think when you quickly came back and said Illmatic and Stillmatic come close.

Come close? Dude, let's even forget Illmatic. Stillmatic kills Marshall Mathers anyday. Stillmatic is like a sight-seeing trip around the world in about an hour. That album is as intelligent as it can get. Marshall Mathers LP was good but I'll give the deserved five stars to only Conscience and My Name Is. In Stillmatic, I can't list the number of tracks that you prolly need to go listen to all over again.

Well, I think I digressed a bit. Now, the battle side of things. Both cats look like they'll tear it up. But 'member I told you not to be too quick to assume things. You compare Nas and Em like you're comparing Diddy and Canibus.
And oh, Canibus - what a great diss rapper. But please lap up that ish you vomitted about Canibus eating Pac in a battle . I nearly choked on my drink! I told you Pac doesn't diss, he battles - it's like a war. It's even a very imbalanced comparison.

Dude, like I said earlier - you analyze rappers well. But always take time to be modest with your praise-singing ^{*'member your posts on Fiddy?*}
Em would stop dead in his tracks with this song you're singing for him.

Never under-estimate whatever Dr. Dre and Eminem put long hours of work into. . . . .
Stillmatic is 6 notches below the Marshal Mathers LP. Apart from the Intro, Ether, One Mic, Rewind and Smoking. . . .what else is on Stillmatic??
Bridge is Over was wack. . . . .My 2nd Childhood was rubbish and Flyest Gangstar with AZ was too watery.

You are making a costly error, hombre.
Slim Shady is different from Marshal Mathers LP. . . . . Marshal Mathers was Eminem's sophomore album and u can't fault that.
Tracks like "Kill You", "Stan", "Never Knew", "Marshal Mathers LP", "Amityville", "Criminal". . . They all blow Stillmatic apart into atoms.

Canibus would kill any rapper. . . . .His vast knowledge of subjects is the best in the Rap industry. . . .
Please go and cop these albums and feel it "Rip The Jacker", 2000 B.C. and Mic-Club. Listen to Poet Laureate(I-IV) tracks.
This cat spat on a single track lasting 14 mins non-stop and he was dissing and dropping metaphysics and pure science.
He even got to rap on a Fela instrumental. . . . .I was holding ma head in bliss listening n checking his breath control.
I am telling u Pac was lucky he died when he did. . . . . .Canibus would finish him in one go.

I have listened to enough Pac songs to know he is a tad over-rated . . All he talks about in his dissing is guns, mess bitches, Hennessey, Alize n weed.
This is no praise singing of these cats . . . . .It's the way they rhyme, clever words and their cheekiness.
Before i go any further. . . . . Go to youtube and listen to "Beasts From The East" . . . .Lost Boyz feat Busta, A+ and Canibus.
You will be convinced.

Bamsyle:

@Hannibal
'Course not. No under-estimation here. Dr. Dre I respect. Em I also do. But where did you get your 6 notches theory from? What about "Got your Self A, ",? And you refer to these as what else?

You're Da Man
Destroy & Rebuild
Braveheart Party
Rule
My Country

Dude, I thought you said you ain't a commercial rap fan.

Oh blimey, forgive ma error. Dunno why I keep mixing both titles up.

Ok, I'll accept Marshall Mathers kind of edges Stillmatic. Of course that's Em at his finest IMO. But Illmatic? Be honest. It was a journey through the soul of an intelligent black man. Talk about powerful narratives, floetry, complex rhyme patterns, clever word play, impressive vocab and lyrical substance. Those elements alone were what fetched Biggie King of New York. And in God's Son, the singular track "Made You Look" kills a merger of like four of the tracks you listed up there from Marshall Mathers LP.

Yo I already heard all those tracks man. 'fact, I was still bopping ma head to Poet Laureate II yesterday through ma headphone (got it on ma playlist). And I loved that Fela beat.

I repeat you're making an imbalanced comparison here. Canibus was dissing and dropping metaphysics and pure science don't mean he'll finish Pac if he steps to him dude. Agreed Canibus is a first-class diss rapper. That's his insignia. But Pac was is an intelligent rapper. Who cares 'bout 'em metaphysics and science? While Canibus is still reading up his science textbooks trying to choose his words, Pac would have dissed and messed him in about ten tracks in his signature prolific style Is Canibus or any other rapper as prolific as Pac? Most times, intelligence conquers cheekiness man. I leave the rest to your imagination. Go figure.

Now you've joined the bandwagon of those claiming Pac's over-rated. And talking 'bout dissing, go check this link:
www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/tupac%20tops%20diss%20list
Check out the list of top 20 diss tracks of all time. Pac's Hit 'Em Up, by poll, is number 1.

And to your guns, mess bitches, Hennessey, Alize n weed references, what about "Against All Odds", "Lil' Homies"? Sure you've not listened to 80% of Pac's songs.

Hell, who did this guy not diss in his days. Check the roll call:

Biggie
Ice Cube
Nas
Jay-Z
Mobb Deep
Fugees
Da Brat
LL Cool J
Lil' Kim
etc, etc

OMG, he dissed all your best rappers!

And last word, don't be pissed with all those gun talks et al. 'member I said he doesn't diss, he battles

Firstly, i am mad at u for getting me up early to reply you.

Pac is intelligent(no doubt about that) but people forget he had loads of time on his hands to make those songs.
Prison life they say can be very boring. . . Compare 2pac before his prison sentence to 2pac/Makaveli(at Deathrow). Massive difference!!
What i like about Canibus is his vast range of knowledge. . . . This nigga can spew. Packaging/Production screwed him up big time.

Hit 'Em Up will always be number one. . . . It was a clash between the best 2 cats, best 2 record company.
It was more than Biggie diss. It was the battle of the Coasts.
Besides that, i think that was the first time anyone would mention names in a diss track.

2pac is a very good rapper but then he is over-rated. He became a gangstar after he shot to the limelight not BEFORE.
The only record he had with the law was "jay-walking" Can u beat that??
While em Biggie, Jigga and nas were hustling crack on the street. . . . .2pac was studying!!!!
So it's kind of funny when u hear him talk about gunz, drug hustling and other shitteryThis is why Biggie had more to say than Pac.

There's no 2pac album i don't have. . . . .ma iPod is a walking DJ(without the mixes)
I have heard "Against All Odds" where he dissed Nas and Mobb Deep but ALL OUT is a better song.

Eminem has dissed more peops than Pac. . . . .if i make a list, i would waste valuable bandwidth so lets leave that.
Number of people he dissed cannot be a yardstick but the quality of the disses.
Surely, u have heard 2nd round K.O. That was a classic diss track. No thrills, No mucking about.

I am never a commercial rap fan. . . . . .The tracks that make it for me in any album never makes it to the radio or MTV.
They don't even become singles. . . . They are the deep tracks only genuine rap heads can find.
Stillmatic got puppy after the first 7 tracks. . . .I cannot fault Nas. . . That particular album leaked so many of those songs were rushed to make the release date. That was what gave birth to "The Lost Tapes" Album.

2pac had 11 months to re-make himself. . . . . .That was where Makaveli was conceived and perfected.
The fact that Biggie/Puffy was making cheddarz while he was locked up even got him more angry.
He knew he had to work hard. Success is the only option, failure was unimaginable.
"Trapped", "Brenda's got a baby", "I get around"(very commerical, ) You have just referred me to 2 different albums.
This is why some school of thunks feel Biggie was better. . . .It took Pac 4 albums to achieve his stardom, it took BIG just one album.

I like 2Pac. . . .Don't get me wrong. . . . . He was a very talented rapper but then Biggie was always ma number 1.
2pac's death kind of helped his legendary status. Honestly, he is a tad overrated albeit very good.
Have u heard "Lets get it on"? Please find it. . . . .You would feel what i am trying to say here.

On the peops Eminem have dissed. . . . . .Where do i start??

Bill Clinton(Criminal)
George Bush(Mosh)
Arnold Schwarzenegger(Ass like that)
Dick & Lynne Cheney(Without Me)
Britney Spears(MM)
N-Sync, Backstreet Boys(MM)
Vanilla Ice(MM)
Christina Aguilera(I'm back)
Benzino(Nail in the coffin)
Canibus(Can-i-bitch)
Ja Rule n MURDA INC(Hail Mary remix)
Jermain Dupri(Say what u say)
Nelly(Detroit Grammar)
ICP(MM)
Hilary Duff(Ass Like that)
Michael Jackson(Lose it)
Janet Jackson(Ass like that). . . .and many more.

chamotex:

No disrespect to Rakim though but Nas gives me that something special/different. He's like a teacher and I'm like the student listening and taking notes. 

He's a One Man Army

bgees:

So many 'Nas fans' . But how many of una dey buy the guy album?