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Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by plaetton: 4:36am On Sep 10, 2013
It is soo interesting and and so disheartening to quickly adjust our minds from the promise of "Hope and Change" of yesterday to the current chorus of "Bomb Bomb Bomb" that fills the air.

It brings to mind Peter Tosh's 80s song titled "war party" that goes like this:

"Them inviting me to a war party, and me no want to go, ......"

It seems that Obama has been invited to a war party, and he doesn't want to go.

As an avid observer of the American political system, several things have become very clear to me.

The president of the United States is not the most powerful man in the United states. The president is the salesman for some some obscure , even mythical superstructure to which he is subordinate .

Unfortunately, Obama has managed to get himself trapped into a terrible quagmire: Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

If Obama does not go to war to placate his masters, his handlers, his godfathers in the military industrial complex and their think tank appendages will most likely assassinate him or turn up dirt on him to muddle his reputation and his presidential legacy.
If he decides to go to war, I am willing to wager that in about 3 to 6 month's time, leaked documents will come out to show that this is a fabricated war built on deliberate lies. the republicans will pounce on this relentlessly and will ultimately impeach Obama for lying to the American people.
So, to me, this is an elaborate trap for Obama. I also think that Obama is well aware of this and has been trying his utmost to delay this war and to get the American people aware of the machinations of the invisible power elites that are holding him hostage.

Poor Obama.
Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by Nobody: 4:42am On Sep 10, 2013
Obama is a liar, fraud, and a conman. I have never seen a failed American prseident since I have been residing there. He is being backed only for being black. He has achieved nothing. Obama lies from every sides of his mouth. A failed American president indeed! Onama will be talked about in 20-30 years time as failure and missed opportunity.

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Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by felifeli: 6:45am On Sep 10, 2013
I predict he's gonna be assassinated pretty soon anyway. Poor geezer.
Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by bowee4u: 7:51am On Sep 10, 2013
felifeli: I predict he's gonna be assassinated pretty soon anyway. Poor geezer.

How did you come about this ?
Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by Rossikk(m): 7:59am On Sep 10, 2013
payless: Obama is a liar, fraud, and a conman. I have never seen a failed American prseident since I have been residing there.

If Obama is all this what do you call Bush? Bush went into Iraq and also presided over the economic collapse of the US. Obama has brought the economy back on its feet, and seems reluctant to go into war.
Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by stevecantrell: 8:40am On Sep 10, 2013
Obama, the ultimate Manchurian Candiddate.

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Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by Symphony007: 9:06am On Sep 10, 2013
payless: Obama is a liar, fraud, and a conman. I have never seen a failed American prseident since I have been residing there. He is being backed only for being black. He has achieved nothing. Obama lies from every sides of his mouth. A failed American president indeed! Onama will be talked about in 20-30 years time as failure and missed opportunity.
you are dreaming...barck obama is going to be remembered as the ronald regan of the democratic party. He is repositioning america on every issue to the left. Economy. Healthcare. Same sex marraige, climate change. Immigration, etc..the right knows this an it is boiling their bloods. On election night 2012 when obama was reelected. Popular fox news ancour bill o'riley said "this is not your traditional america anymore". He was right. Obama is moving the center right nation to center left. And the crowning glory of his presidency will be helping hillary clinton suceed him.
Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by Symphony007: 9:11am On Sep 10, 2013
This article is idiotic. Because barck obama was elected as anti war. That does'nt mean he becomes a hippie on the world stage. There is a difference between campaigning for office and being in office. Barck obama walked into the oval office on the 21st of january 2008 and saw that american faced over the million threats everyday. From terrorist organisation to rough nations. He had no make the tough choices to protect americans which is his number one duty. If he becomes a hippie and goes around the globe preaching world peace and distabilizing u.s defence mechanism and a massive terrorist attack goes off in one city. Guess who these same people blasting him will blame?

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Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by kingbang: 10:22am On Sep 10, 2013
Symphony007: This article is idiotic. Because barck obama was elected as anti war. That does'nt mean he becomes a hippie on the world stage. There is a difference between campaigning for office and being in office. Barck obama walked into the oval office on the 21st of january 2008 and saw that american faced over the million threats everyday. From terrorist organisation to rough nations. He had no make the tough choices to protect americans which is his number one duty. If he becomes a hippie and goes around the globe preaching world peace and distabilizing u.s defence mechanism and a massive terrorist attack goes off in one city. Guess who these same people blasting him will blame?

So how does bombing Syria safeguard America and it's citizens? I think Obama is going to bomb Syria just to sooth his ego over his "red line" comment. America has everything to lose by ousting Assad because they will ultimately hand Syria over to Al Queda elements and extremists which in turn is a danger to global peace. Most Congressmen are against the attack and Syria and i am waiting to see how the confused Obama gets them on his side. This is how they Ousted Mubarak only to hand Egypt over to the Muslim brotherhood, now see the mess Egypt is in. FACT is, Obomber lacks the constitutional right to invade Syria without the congress approval and that approval won't come. SIMPLE!

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Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by Symphony007: 1:13pm On Sep 10, 2013
kingbang:

So how does bombing Syria safeguard America and it's citizens? I think Obama is going to bomb Syria just to sooth his ego over his "red line" comment. America has everything to lose by ousting Assad because they will ultimately hand Syria over to Al Queda elements and extremists which in turn is a danger to global peace. Most Congressmen are against the attack and Syria and i am waiting to see how the confused Obama gets them on his side. This is how they Ousted Mubarak only to hand Egypt over to the Muslim brotherhood, now see the mess Egypt is in. FACT is, Obomber lacks the constitutional right to invade Syria without the congress approval and that approval won't come. SIMPLE!
thousands of egypthians rioted in the streets demanding mubarak should go and you're blaming that on obama? You expect the united states of america ro support a dictator over the wishes of thousands protesting? I'll let that sink in. Then syria, it is in the interest of america to relive assad of his chemical weapons so it does not pose a threat to isreal, syria is a rough nation. Supported by russia. It is in the interest of the united states to depose him. Most republican congress men know this but will vote against just to embarrass obama, prominent conservatives like bill kristol has made this know. As for the democrats. They have always been wimps and won't vote for war.

Obama has the constitutional right to strike syria without congressional approval. Ronald regan invaded greneda without congressional approval, JFK ordered the bay of pigs without conhressional approval. Bill clinton entered kosovo, george h.w bush entered kuwait.etc... Were they impeached. Even prominent constitutional specialist blasted obama for seeking congressional approval because he has weakned the executive and handed over to congress powers, his predessesors have garthered over the last 30 years.
Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by birdman(m): 12:57am On Sep 11, 2013
steve_cantrell: Obama, the ultimate Manchurian Candiddate.

Not quite. More likely, he has been "made an offer he cant refuse". He got into power and the kingmakers made themselves known to him. This IS a trap that is supposed to kill two birds with one stone. Get the black president to use his charm to draw the country into a needless war, and at the same time set him up as the fall guy so the Republicans can pounce and rip him to shreds. This would tie up the 8 year "Obama affair" in a neat little bow, as there is always the risk Obama hasnt lost his conscience, and he may start talking after his presidency. I'm not an Obama fan, but the dude needs some prayers right about now

Then again, he keeps quoting Reagan, so maybe you are right undecided
Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by kingbang: 10:42am On Sep 11, 2013
Symphony007: thousands of egypthians rioted in the streets demanding mubarak should go and you're blaming that on obama? You expect the united states of america ro support a dictator over the wishes of thousands protesting? I'll let that sink in. Then syria, it is in the interest of america to relive assad of his chemical weapons so it does not pose a threat to isreal, syria is a rough nation. Supported by russia. It is in the interest of the united states to depose him. Most republican congress men know this but will vote against just to embarrass obama, prominent conservatives like bill kristol has made this know. As for the democrats. They have always been wimps and won't vote for war.

Obama has the constitutional right to strike syria without congressional approval. Ronald regan invaded greneda without congressional approval, JFK ordered the bay of pigs without conhressional approval. Bill clinton entered kosovo, george h.w bush entered kuwait.etc... Were they impeached. Even prominent constitutional specialist blasted obama for seeking congressional approval because he has weakned the executive and handed over to congress powers, his predessesors have garthered over the last 30 years.

No Obama does not have the right to invade a country without the congress vote. The constitution states that he can only order an invasion or declare war on a sovereign nation when that nation is a threat or has attacked the United States. Syria right now has done nothing to America for Obama to invade them without the congress backing. That's an impeachable offense, go and do your research. Secondly, this would be a senseless war because it would cause many years of unrest around that region, Syria,Isreal,Lebanon and co would never have peace for years to come.
Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by kingbang: 10:47am On Sep 11, 2013
Symphony007: thousands of egypthians rioted in the streets demanding mubarak should go and you're blaming that on obama? You expect the united states of america ro support a dictator over the wishes of thousands protesting? I'll let that sink in.

Now the same thousands cried out against Morsy! SO what exactly did America achieve in Egypt? Chaos? Instability? I will let that sink in too.
America should tell the Saudis to stop funding and supporting rebels to oust a legal government. We are not fools, we know that America are masters of spurious allegations to support their propaganda.

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Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by plaetton: 1:54pm On Sep 15, 2013
A daniel has come to judgement.
Putin steps in to save both Syria and The Obama presidency from certain ruin.
Re: Barak Obama: From "Hope And Change" To "Bomb Bomb Bomb". by VULCAN(m): 3:59pm On Sep 15, 2013
Let me repeat this post in this thread:

First Off, let me hail everyone on here. People say that Nigerians don’t discuss issues that don’t concern their bellies and this is evidence that that assertion may be untrue,

Let me dive in. Some people here are ready to lay down their life swearing that Assad used chemical weapons. But I have to ask- based on what proof?

Based on an intercepted phone call between two Syrian Army war commanders?? Intel supplied by Israel. I'm disappointed how someone will sit in front of their TV and swallow whatever CNN and Al J report.

You wanna convict me of murder cause you "claim" you have a record of a phone call between my bodyguards discussing a murder. Even in a court of law you can’t convict a man on such flimsy evidence.

It’s also interesting to note that the Germans say that the Syrian Army commanders asked for permission to use CW “9 TIMES” and were refused. That’s a story that needs to be looked into.

Permit me to attempt to put you into al-Assad’s mind.

I am al-Assad. I have been fighting the rebels for 1 and half years. They are being funded by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the US. None of whom can provide military support for obvious reasons.

Then suddenly from out of the blue the President of the US announces that the use of CW is a “red line” that I should not cross. My enemy has spoken. He has just informed me of the ONLY circumstance that will allow him to intervene militarily because he needs an excuse before his people who are war weary.

Then a year later, the day after I receive UN inspectors to Syria.......

…….I use CW to kill 1,400 people ,100km away from where the UN inspectors are.

Really? Really, REALLY, I give the ONLY one of my enemies who can take me down in a matter of months the very reason he needs to come in and do that.

REALLY!!!!

REALLY!!!!!!

REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!

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