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Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by AlfaSeltzer(m): 4:28pm On Sep 13, 2013
Hehehe. Yeye christians calling this a win? This is actually an anti-christian win.

Go and find out how the church of Flying Spaghetti Monster came into being. How they erected monuments in public places forcing christians to remove their own monuments. How they made mockery of the legal system by wearing strainers for official photo IDs.

Wait until some students use this decision to start making the christians squirm.
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Judas2013: 4:29pm On Sep 13, 2013
Do i have to teach English and the bible at the same time? Drop ur bible,read quality books!
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Judas2013: 4:31pm On Sep 13, 2013
Before you worship a God,first find out his/its origin. If you bow to the the wrong god you are on ur own.@Ajibam or whatever your name is
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by plaetton: 4:32pm On Sep 13, 2013
Ajibam:


God helped them gain Their freedom during the war,.
Iwould like tou to prove how freemason are the emmasculators of religion

That is historical fact. It is not my responsibility to put through school.
You need to educate yourself.

Do you know that George Washington was a freemason?
So you are saying that God sided with George Washing and his fellow freemasons to win a war against the British?
Who told you that?
See how god is cleverly sneaked into every victory and sneaked out of every defeat?.
Na wa for god o.

Do you know that the Boston Tea Party rebellion was started by members of a nearby Masonic Lodge in Boston habour?

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Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Ajibam: 4:32pm On Sep 13, 2013
Judas2013: When you hear the American govt say "in god we trust". They mean it literarily .....they get technological help from them!

Then why did your atheist GO's protest against It??
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Judas2013: 4:34pm On Sep 13, 2013
Ajibam:
Then why did your atheist GO's protest against It??

Because your idea of omnipotent,ever loving,caring god doesn't exist! The real gods are advanced technologically!
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Judas2013: 4:36pm On Sep 13, 2013
Why do you think the towel of babel were destroyed? Huh

You think a spirit god has time for you? No! They were physical being who interacted with humans back in the days.
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Judas2013: 4:39pm On Sep 13, 2013
If you are clever enough to open a church and make money,pls do it! There are mum us everywhere to make church members

Follow Oyedepo's example if you must deceive your fellow humans
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by RayMcBlue(m): 4:42pm On Sep 13, 2013
Ajibam:
YAHWEH is the only God!!!
All other are gods,that are lifeless

I'm pretty sure a baal worshipper would say the same thing...lol!
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by plaetton: 4:42pm On Sep 13, 2013
Uyi Iredia:

Sure, Amen is derived from Amun which I know was a phrase used in ancient Egyptian relgious rituals. But one thing I hate (and Pagan9JA should too) is when people ignore that polytheists didn't believe in a Supreme God. They did and so worshipping Ra was a way of worshipping God to the ancient Egyptians.

Whether supreme god exists or not is always debatable.
But the conflation of a local tribal deity of Canaan, Yahweh with the supreme god is the most laughable attempt at fraud in the universe.

The bible repeatedly , more than 320 times, mentions other gods, rival gods operating within and outside yahweh's local domain in Canaan.

Infact, I have proven it on this forum, and I can refer you if you like, that according the Ugarith texts, Yahweh was a junior god in the Canaanite pantheon of gods.
He even had a female consort, Ashera, and Baal and Lilith were his son and daughter respectively.

We know from the bible that the Israelites also worshipped Baal and Ashera as well as Lilith, the one they referred to as the Queen of heaven.

The same Bible also states categorically that the earth was divided amongst the gods and that Israel and some portions of the land of Canaan was yahweh's own inheritance.

That explains why yahweh mobilised the Israelites to murder and expel the occupiers of his inherited land.
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by RayMcBlue(m): 4:45pm On Sep 13, 2013
GeneralShepherd:

An atheist that believes in extraterrestrial gods....hmmm interesting

Why wouldn't an atheist believe in the possibility of alien life forms. It's it so incredible as to challenge the concept of atheism?
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Judas2013: 4:47pm On Sep 13, 2013
He opened a thread and took off! grin grin

Christianity is going down!
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by plaetton: 4:49pm On Sep 13, 2013
GeneralShepherd:

An atheist that believes in extraterrestrial gods....hmmm interesting

Your bible talks about it at great length.
In fact, the bible is really a book about alien lifeforms on earth.

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Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by UyiIredia(m): 4:49pm On Sep 13, 2013
There is a problem when a minority in a population want a clause removed which majority of the population have no qualms with, even folks within that minority. It's hypocirtical to mention how one's religion influencies policies, no matter the inanity of the intent, and pretend you have no belief and aren't with an agenda, whilst you have. In any case, to bad for FFRF.
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Judas2013: 4:51pm On Sep 13, 2013
plaetton:

Your bible talks about it at great length.
In fact, the bible is really a book about alien lifeforms on earth.

Gbam!
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by RayMcBlue(m): 4:52pm On Sep 13, 2013
Christians have become a minority in this section. When a Christian creates a thread and took to his heels, then something is wrong somewhere. Could it be that religion is finally losing it's relevancy or people getting smarter?
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by plaetton: 4:53pm On Sep 13, 2013
Uyi Iredia: There is a problem when a minority in a population want a clause removed which majority of the population have no qualms with, even folks within that minority. It's hypocirtical to mention how one's religion influencies policies, no matter the inanity of the intent, and pretend you have no belief and aren't with an agenda, whilst you have. In any case, to bad for FFRF.

Your statement itself is hypocritical.

If the constitution itself states clearly that religion should be separate from statecraft, then both the letter and the spirit of the constitution should be adhered to. Simple.

If a majority of people disobey a law, but their act does no real harm to anyone, does that justify disobeying a law?
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by plaetton: 4:56pm On Sep 13, 2013
Ray McBlue: Christians have become a minority in this section. When a Christian creates a thread and took to his heels, then something is wrong somewhere. Could it be that religion is finally losing it's relevancy or people getting smarter?




Ha ha ha.
It is called Religious Decoherence.
When the absurdity of religious belief meets the firewall of reason and common sense, they lose their bearing and start flip flopping.

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Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Judas2013: 4:57pm On Sep 13, 2013
Ajibam:
Then why did your atheist GO's protest against It??

Who is the GO ? An Athiest is someone who thinks/ make use of his/ her thinking cap,someone who likes to look before making judgement,someone who will be difficult to fool.

That is why we challenge your God. If you god lands in my court,he is going to jail straight!
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by UyiIredia(m): 5:04pm On Sep 13, 2013
@ plaetton: Please post the links to the thread where you showed how Yahweh is a Cannanite god. Belief in God is not the sole excluse of religions. Two, the manner of seperation of religion from state allows for the phrase to be put in the currency to the extent that it isn't biased to any one religion or philosophy, trust in God being accomodated under many religions or deism. Not to mention, as I said, that some atheists have no problem with that phrase. Funny enough, one wonders whether you would oppose an atheistic biased phrase being printed on the currency. Where were atheists when Hoxha proclaimed Hungary to be an atheist state ?
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Ajibam: 5:09pm On Sep 13, 2013
Judas2013:

Because your idea of omnipotent,ever loving,caring god doesn't exist! The real gods are advanced technologically!




Ohh..that means They accepted the fact that the God in on The currency is The christian God..
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Ajibam: 5:09pm On Sep 13, 2013
Judas2013:

Because your idea of omnipotent,ever loving,caring god doesn't exist! The real gods are advanced technologically!

Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Ajibam: 5:11pm On Sep 13, 2013
Judas2013: He opened a thread and took off! grin grin

Christianity is going down!


Indeed!!!
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Ajibam: 5:12pm On Sep 13, 2013
Judas2013:

Who is the GO ? An Athiest is someone who thinks/ make use of his/ her thinking cap,someone who likes to look before making judgement,someone who will be difficult to fool.

That is why we challenge your God. If you god lands in my court,he is going to jail straight!


Difficult to fool?
But He Is A Fool Before(he Believes in no God,)
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Ajibam: 5:16pm On Sep 13, 2013
Ray McBlue:

Why wouldn't an atheist believe in the possibility of alien life forms. It's it so incredible as to challenge the concept of atheism?

Not alien Life form,buh extraterrestrial gods
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by plaetton: 5:27pm On Sep 13, 2013
Ajibam:

Difficult to fool?
But He Is A Fool Before(he Believes in no God,)

I keep asking over and over again.
Why would a self-evident god need to be believed in?
Do we need to believe in Gravity, the Sunshine, Oxygen?

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Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by plaetton: 5:28pm On Sep 13, 2013
Uyi Iredia: @ plaetton: Please post the links to the thread where you showed how Yahweh is a Cannanite god. Belief in God is not the sole excluse of religions. Two, the manner of seperation of religion from state allows for the phrase to be put in the currency to the extent that it isn't biased to any one religion or philosophy, trust in God being accomodated under many religions or deism. Not to mention, as I said, that some atheists have no problem with that phrase. Funny enough, one wonders whether you would oppose an atheistic biased phrase being printed on the currency. Where were atheists when Hoxha proclaimed Hungary to be an atheist state ?


https://www.nairaland.com/1074709/anony-ihedinobigoshen-lets-discuss-yahwehmonotheism
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by Judas2013: 6:23pm On Sep 13, 2013
Asherah - the wife of Yahweh
In the 1975 excavation of Kuntillet Ajrud, a site dated to the 8th century BCE, pottery was found covered with amazing and revealing scripts. Asherah's name was associated with Yahweh as if as his wife. "I have blessed you by Yahweh ... and his Asherah".




Yahweh (normally portrayed either as a storm god or desert god) is often mentioned in other archeaological finds in association with Asherah. Her name even appears 40 times in the Hebrew bible. Perhaps you remember passages from the bible that appeared not to make perfect sense [ironic smile] but some of them might be clearer if you know that Asherah is generally translated into English (King James Bible) as the 'grove' or 'pole' - both of which probably represented her ritually. In fact Asherah was usually represented in a distinctive way using a tree or branch motif. She was thought of as the 'tree of life' and in Ugarit she acted as an intermediary between mortal men and her husband the Most High god El.

Deuteronomy 16:21 "Thou shalt not plant thee a grove of any trees near unto the altar of the LORD thy God" is one example where she seems to be described as a cult object. The meaning seems clear (even if slightly strange) until you find that the 'grove of trees' might represent a goddess if translated differently.

2 Kings 23:4 it is clear that the King is attempting to purge all the trappings of polytheism,". .. to bring forth out of the temple of the LORD all the vessels that were made for Ba'al, and for the grove, and for all the host of heaven . . ."

Deuteronomy 33:3 says in some translations "At his right, his own Asherah"

A similar figure to Asherah appears in other cultures under different names, including Athirat, Ashertu and Astarte and but with a similar tree of life theme. The Wikipedia article about Asherah says that in the Ugaritic texts Athirat is distinct from Asherah but then goes on to say "although in non-Ugaritic sources from later periods the distinction between the two goddesses can be blurred; either as a result of scribal error or through possible syncretism".

This all points towards the Old Testament being a huge mixed bag of myth and legend and some biblical scholars, including Francesca Stravrakopoulou would go so far as to claim that God's wife might have been edited out of the bible.

I suspect that speculation like this is not what one might term 'strong evidence', and certainly the 'lovely Francesca' has her critics. Somehow though I find her arguments more compelling. At the very least she is not afraid of point out inconsistencies in the Jewish and Christian interpretations of the Old Testament stories.
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by UyiIredia(m): 6:26pm On Sep 13, 2013
@ plaetton: Noted. Very much so since it is generally agreed that the Israelites hugely interacted with and worshipped Caanaanite gods. This needs more research before believing but it is possible, not plausible.
Re: Atheists Lose, 'in God We Trust' To Remain On Currency by quivah(f): 8:06pm On Sep 13, 2013
Judas2013: Each time you say "amen" you are worshiping amen Ra and not yahweh grin grin

when they scream Jesus..they are simply hailing zeus.. who's fooling who?!
http://www.biblicalresearchinstitute.com/lectures/lec1.htm
Or
http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/transliteration.html



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