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Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Nobody: 9:59pm On Sep 26, 2013 |
Sagamite:All these venom, i have a life, with your deranged self, keep fighting and cursing people on Nland every day. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Nobody: 10:01pm On Sep 26, 2013 |
Sagamite:Like seriously, how old are you? I see no reason why anyone will tag Islam to be worse than Judaism or Christianity Islam is a relatively new religion. Are we to discard the crusades? Aren't they all guilty of gender inequality?? Christianity has passed through the phase Islam is passing through, it's only a matter of time b4 they all calm down. There are too many people that have killed in the name of religion, do not blame the religion for how some ppl choose to interpret it. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Sagamite(m): 10:03pm On Sep 26, 2013 |
Donlittle: All these venom, i have a life, with your deranged self, keep fighting and cursing people on Nland every day. Shut up. Why would I not curse people that do not have a brain. You don't know potential Zombies are a danger to society if they get into the hands of evil people? Cretins don't ever want to listen to how things can be done better or well. No wonder Africa is so backwards. It is such a struggle on the continent to get the fucktards to agree we should be the best we can be. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Sagamite(m): 10:16pm On Sep 26, 2013 |
This woman seems to have had the opportunity to do what I was talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFs-2JqwiJw |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by striker9(m): 10:54pm On Sep 26, 2013 |
The guy crawled to where the woman was hiding with her kids,he knew they were scared.He couldn't have walked towards them,she might freaked out,thereby making a sound or her kids might scream.He wanted to earn her trust,but he made a mistake by not watching his back after she accepted to follow him.The guy is brave,we talking about terrorists here,not armed robbers,lol. 1 Like |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by dont8(m): 11:25pm On Sep 26, 2013 |
At the bolded, is there any difference? Just curiuos. striker9: The guy crawled to where the woman was hiding with her kids,he knew they were scared.He couldn't have walked towards them,she might freaked out,thereby making a sound or her kids might scream.He wanted to earn her trust,but he made a mistake by not watching his back after she accepted to follow him.The guy is brave,we talking about terrorists here,not armed robbers,lol. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by babybuzx(f): 2:50am On Sep 27, 2013 |
She is a heroine. She is an encouragement to motherhood. But how many Nigerian mothers can do such? This thing wey we dey talk na at GUN POINT oooooo |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Nobody: 3:41am On Sep 27, 2013 |
Mothers are capable of incredible things when their childrens lives are at danger. 1 Like |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by striker9(m): 8:36am On Sep 27, 2013 |
dont8: At the bolded, is there any difference? Just curiuos.Very huge one bro,you might wanna use your dictionary. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Nobody: 9:32am On Sep 27, 2013 |
Wow |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by dont8(m): 9:35am On Sep 27, 2013 |
I've checked my dictionary, can't find any difference-they are both killers striker9: Very huge one bro,you might wanna use your dictionary. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by telexfree1: 9:56am On Sep 27, 2013 |
SniperInADiaper: Mothers are capable of incredible things when their childrens lives are at danger. Yup |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by plux: 11:54am On Sep 27, 2013 |
Okija_juju and Sagamite think before you write anything down. And get a life!!! |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Sagamite(m): 12:15pm On Sep 27, 2013 |
plux: Okija_juju and Sagamite think before you write anything down. And get a life!!! You are a person! You just showed thinking is not an art you engage in. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by plux: 1:07pm On Sep 27, 2013 |
Sagamite: Big Mouth
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Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Sagamite(m): 1:15pm On Sep 27, 2013 |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by striker9(m): 1:48pm On Sep 27, 2013 |
dont8: I've checked my dictionary, can't find any difference-they are both killersArmed robbers wants your money and valuables,they don't care about your religion,they let you live if you cooperate.Terrorists don't care about your money,there aim is to kill and destroy. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by dont8(m): 2:05pm On Sep 27, 2013 |
There is no difference jor, what if I commit suicide afterwards, knowing fully well I got the money on loan and if I don't cooperate? striker9: Armed robbers wants your money and valuables,they don't care about your religion,they let you live if you cooperate.Terrorists don't care about your money,there aim is to kill and destroy. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by dont8(m): 2:08pm On Sep 27, 2013 |
Sagamite needs to read this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1456199/abdul-haji-kenyan-somali-muslim-saves You'll realize those guys are mostly civilians or vigilante at best, I call it bravery at it's peak. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Sagamite(m): 2:30pm On Sep 27, 2013 |
dont8: Sagamite needs to read this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1456199/abdul-haji-kenyan-somali-muslim-saves Then those ones have an excuse and cannot be blamed. But as for this in the story: "It was now close to an hour since the shootings had started and the anti-terror unit had not yet arrived." Disgrace! In my world, HEADS WILL ROLL! |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by tefund(m): 6:43pm On Sep 27, 2013 |
Happy to be alive |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by delishpot: 7:12pm On Sep 27, 2013 |
Hian. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Nobody: 7:34pm On Sep 27, 2013 |
moscobabs:Ha ha ha he doesn't understand the meaning of playing dead. Wonder if it was written as feigning death |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by preeky: 2:40am On Sep 28, 2013 |
Thats a brave woman instead of running around and kids to different directions she lay still and that saved all their lives.A mothers instinct indeed.bravo lady! Thank God alshabab never saw them cos they were brandishing guns to everyone they saw leading them to a certain room where they shot at close range or literally strangled them.I tell you am still terrified |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by pendo89(f): 9:19am On Sep 28, 2013 |
Sagamite:No No sagamite,the events that played out that day did not leave room for such acts of bravery! It was too risky not with bullets flying around! Look at where that woman lay,do you see any dead person nearby? would you risk looking for dead people's blood to smear on yourself?? honestly I wouldn't even breathe! From victims accounts,those who attempted to make the slightest movement ended up dead! or shot!! Ok this is what happened. - nine people pull up at westgate with guns blazing - enter the mall shoot in the air to alert fellow assailants who were already in the mall then proceed to shooting at people - number of assailants in excess of 25 took up positions in various parts of the mall - assailants rigged 50 cal gun with laser controlled unmanned automatic firing, rigged most of the mall with small explosives - assailant snipers took positions in the vents - the KDF got the vent plans, determined the snipers positions, sealed the vents, got the fans to blow towards the snipers then deployed flame throwers with over 50 metres range and fried the idiots inside the vents The KDF/Army are not stationed at westgate,those fellows stay in their barracks -some distance away. The first people to react were reservists,ordinary cops and anyone with a gun! By the time it was discovered that this was no ordinary robbery,guys had lost lives,the army was called in followed by the KDF in that order. And they used different entry points to access the building including the roof top. I mean even the most well trained group makes blunders during such operations and victims are always there. The confusion that reigned initially was too much so I can't blame the woman. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by dont8(m): 9:55am On Sep 28, 2013 |
Well said, let's see if Sagamite would change his taught about this event and stop blaming the security agents of ill-trained. pendo89: |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Sagamite(m): 9:58am On Sep 28, 2013 |
pendo89: Yeah, I was not blaming the woman. I was just stating the precautionary measures I would take if I could. "assailants rigged 50 cal gun with laser controlled unmanned automatic firing" - What does this mean? You mean they were using weapons that fired on their own in the mall? |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Sagamite(m): 10:04am On Sep 28, 2013 |
dont8: Well said, let's see if Sagamite would change his taught about this event and stop blaming the security agents of ill-trained. That is the more reason why the first police officers that got their should have exhibited training of having their guns pointed straight and ready, not hanging down. Confusion is not an excuse for them if they were well trained. Majority of their job would be in environment of confusion anyway and training should show they can be mostly structured and professional even in the midst of confusion. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by pendo89(f): 10:09am On Sep 28, 2013 |
Sagamite: yes,but they were put on when the kdf/army took control. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by dont8(m): 10:14am On Sep 28, 2013 |
All in all, they did a good job, we're not even 100% sure if that guy that crawled to rescue the woman and her children was a civilian or a security agent. Take for instance, Hajji Yusuf that rescued a lot of peeps in that building was initially said to be a security agent; not until later, it was discovered it's his brother that was actually an agent. Sagamite: |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by pendo89(f): 10:21am On Sep 28, 2013 |
Sagamite: Sagamite why do you keep insisting that they were not well trained? These people you are blaming are partly trained by the foreign forces you keep hailing. If the British soldiers train in kenya how much do you think our forces are exposed to? Yeah they do undergo training by those fellows-the kind of training that can kill a normal human like you and I on day 1. And If they are poorly trained,how did they succeed in dealing with el-shabab in mogadishu,where the americans failed and gave up? We are seeing a retaliation, but trust me Kenya will not relent on the war. Somalia needs Kenya to survive and Kenya has ways of draining life out of that poor country. Whenever such terrorist acts happens,the somalis bear the brunt more than kenyans . Please don't underestimate or come to conclusions based on one or two acts which you see on video, because the real acts of bravery by soldiers are never captured as there's no luxury time to take photos when the war heats up. Only accounts by the soldiers in the line of fire worth listening to. |
Re: Mum Saved Her Kids From Attack By Playing Dead by Sagamite(m): 11:08am On Sep 28, 2013 |
dont8: All in all, they did a good job, we're not even 100% sure if that guy that crawled to rescue the woman and her children was a civilian or a security agent. Take for instance, Hajji Yusuf that rescued a lot of peeps in that building was initially said to be a security agent; not until later, it was discovered it's his brother that was actually an agent. I don't think I heard any reliable news agency call him specifically a security agent. pendo89: The police officers I saw did not exhibit good training. Maybe the special forces did but I cannot know because the media was blocked and withdrawn when they came into play to stop the communication between the terrorists and their commanders. Succeed in Mogadishu? Sweetie, I am sure the military standard expected from a Western Army in a war zone is different from that expected from an African Army in a war zone. So I would not use that to refer to success and failure. If we tried to apply US Army standard on the Nigerian Army fighting Boko Haram, Boko Haram would be having carnivals in the city centre before exploding their bombs. The fact there is that if you are unrestrained by professional standards, you can strike fear in the opposition and their supporters and slaughter as many people as possible without anyone questioning you, hence increasing your odds of killing the enemy. And No, the US did not fail in Mogadishu, they went there as peacekeepers and decided, due to public pressure, their soldiers are not worth dying for this. I am sure we Africans don't give a toss about our soldiers that much and I am sure more Kenyan soldiers would have died in Somalia than US soldiers did. I sure don't give a toss about the Nigerian Army, but strangely enough care for the British Army. If I was President of Kenya though, I would send more troops into Somalia to capture all the regions Al-Shabaab has. |
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