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Re: Aguiyi-ironsi: Igbo Leaders Blast Useni by madamoringo(f): 2:11pm On Sep 29, 2013
druid06:

You call the first military coupe the igbo coupe when you forget to address the fact that some Northerners and officers from the middle belt played a major role during the first coupe but no, you all complained like it was a coupe done by the South eartern brethren alone.

A coupe was eminent during the 1960's even though if Neogwu and Ifeajuna who was the driving force of the first coupe didn't kindle the spirit, someone else would. The military were all power hungry at that time and still are. Azikwe was spared his life because he was damn lucky. The weeks before the coupe, he left for the United State for a conference of some sorth. I'm sure if were still in Nigerian during the time of the bloodshed, he would have been a collateral damage to their cause.

We all seem to forget about the thousands of innocent Southern Eastern officers who were arrested, tortured and prosecuted unjustly during the counter-coupe. Also a very great and civil man lost his life. His name is Aguiyi Ironsi. He had no involvement during the first coupe that went wrong, he simply took the mantle of power and became the supreme commander because he was the most high ranking officer at that time and he was murdered because he represented the South-Eastern side and the millions of Igbo brethren and people alike lost their lives during the civil war.

Also during the first coupe, the mutineers planned on excuting Aguiyi Ironsi later on but couldn't succeed since their coupe later failed and was uncompleted. All top military personel during that period were planned on being assasinated. Also Aguyi's intentional plan after becoming the supreme commander was to restore back the power to the democratic regime before he was being murdered during the counter-coupe which would later lead to the destruction and the deunification of Nigeria. People also fail to remember that Aguiyi and some other high ranking officers purposedly matched to Balewa's residence to warn him of an imminent coupe rumours spreading around and to listen to his couseling and orders but the old man couldn't give any. He was too trusting and too naive.

So let's try to be civil and unbiased about this matter of very sensitive nature. Nigeria was formed from distrust. Distrust from the Northerners towards the South and vice versa. It's so sad that the driving force of the first coupe where the South-Eastern brethren. It shouldn't have been them. It should have been someone else. Maybe we wouldn't be suffering from prejudice like we've been for over 40 years.

In case you don't know or are pretending, Zik did not magically find himself traveling to London. He was TIPPED OFF by Ifeajuna and co. who were supposed to take care of the SE. I read that Ifeajuna and Zik are somewhat related. Note, this was not the first time Zik ran away, he did also before then. Read more history, I am typing from my phone and cannot get up to write anything longer.

Number 2, be honest the coup is an ibo coup for at least 3 reasons, the majority of the coup plotters are ibos, the leaders of the coup are mostly ibos and the supposed victims that were tipped off and go away are ibos and were tipped off by ibos. No one is stupid not to see that. If a statistic sample shows even 50.1%, the entire sample population will be classified by that majority. Except you can show otherwise, it was an ibo coup.

Number 3, ironsi was not some innocent man who just happened to be a senior officer. What did Ironsi do about the ibo coupists who had just killed national leaders and people from other parts of the country? NOTHING!! He kept them away prisons in the east or wherever and gave them their ranks and uniforms, who be mumu?? Ironsi had 6 months or so to act or do something, all he did was fuckall nothing! Instead, he brought up Mojekwu (anothet ibo man) and his useless group to come up with the framework for Decree 34 that abolished Nigeria's regional governments and introduced the unitary government tht has held down Nigeria ti today. A unitary government ensures that the most progressive Western Nigeria's economic and developmental progress will then be slowed down to 0 and give the ibos to leverage on the Hausas by effectively keeping the top leadership position of the country. The blow back was that Ironsi and his advisers did not see that they had neither the mental capacity or military history of the majority north and west of the country. Ironsi was killed (along with a truly innocent Fajuyi) busy hosting this Ironsi (ibos do everything to rubbish his name while exonerating the pussy footing Ironsi who brought him into the conflict) and the game started by the ibos have been played on the rules they set only made more effective by other parts of the country. Today the SW is back in the economic, developmental, social and innovative leadership of the country and ahead of the SE while the north have had over 30 years at the saddle. Ironsi's plan for the ibos and ojukwus indiscretion have backfired and left ibos in an untenable position. Even the Ijaws have gained ascendancy over the ibos and except you people do the right things and apologize to the country, you will stay very long loko eru.

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Re: Aguiyi-ironsi: Igbo Leaders Blast Useni by Nobody: 2:16pm On Sep 29, 2013
meccuno: when I read post like this,I try and restrain my self not to use words that are not appropriate....okay the igbos and a yotuba oFficer planned a coup in 1966......the igbos killed some northern soldiers during the biafra war. But how many do you see coming on national dailies to tell us that they did it? Meaning that since there was a 1966 coup,then the igbos should suffer in perpetuity?? It only reveals one thing...that you especially and majority of Nigerians and blacks in general are still savages.....when german chancellor went to one of the european states that felt the brunt of german war machines thru hitler,they appologised for the atrocities that hitler and the old germany comitted.....having the impression that the igbos deserved what they got shows how brute and savagery that you have stooped.....meaning it serves the jews right that 6 million of them where killed....?? Just because of a foolish excuse that they killed jesus.....most times I wonder what quality of exposure and education we get these days.....and mind you....it was the WESTERN REGION that the whole wahala started from.....with awolowo and akintola ish.....so don't thing you guys are excluded....

Yeah fooooll what caused the whole nonsense in the western region? A Western premier bowing down to the north was about to be impeached, he ran to Azikiwe and Ahmedu Bello who interfered in the affairs of western region. What did the fool Azikiwe do? He conspired with Bello and Tafawa Balewa to send Awolowo and his men to jail. What happened after that? they balkanized the Western region, leaving their own regions in tact? Igbos on this forum are blind foools with selective sight. Ode oshi!! Koshi lor jor... Make una go die!! If una do any how again, another war will brew and you will be conquered again. This time, it will be Fashola or Tinubu or Aregbesola that your Igbo tribaleast will be making immortal. Fooools

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Re: Aguiyi-ironsi: Igbo Leaders Blast Useni by texazzpete(m): 2:27pm On Sep 29, 2013
Useni gives an Interview, they complain about fanning embers of discord and awakening old wounds.\

Achebe writes a book, retreading the same past history and it is lauded to the high heavens.

When will Nigerians learn to shun hypocrisy at all levels?

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Re: Aguiyi-ironsi: Igbo Leaders Blast Useni by rosebowl01(m): 2:39pm On Sep 29, 2013
So, you have numerous excuses for why all Ibo leaders were spared/escaped, and leaders from other places were all killed? Don't you think other people beside Ibos have feelings too? The world does not revolve around you people you know. Give me a gun so that I could kill your family and spare my own. Let see after that if it would be okay for you to accept that my family was spared by NUMEROUS lucks.

druid06:

You call the first military coupe the igbo coupe when you forget to address the fact that some Northerners and officers from the middle belt played a major role during the first coupe but no, you all complained like it was a coupe done by the South eartern brethren alone.

A coupe was eminent during the 1960's even though if Neogwu and Ifeajuna who was the driving force of the first coupe didn't kindle the spirit, someone else would. The military were all power hungry at that time and still are. Azikwe was spared his life because he was damn lucky. The weeks before the coupe, he left for the United State for a conference of some sorth. I'm sure if were still in Nigerian during the time of the bloodshed, he would have been a collateral damage to their cause.

We all seem to forget about the thousands of innocent Southern Eastern officers who were arrested, tortured and prosecuted unjustly during the counter-coupe. Also a very great and civil man lost his life. His name is Aguiyi Ironsi. He had no involvement during the first coupe that went wrong, he simply took the mantle of power and became the supreme commander because he was the most high ranking officer at that time and he was murdered because he represented the South-Eastern side and the millions of Igbo brethren and people alike lost their lives during the civil war.

Also during the first coupe, the mutineers planned on excuting Aguiyi Ironsi later on but couldn't succeed since their coupe later failed and was uncompleted. All top military personel during that period were planned on being assasinated. Also Aguyi's intentional plan after becoming the supreme commander was to restore back the power to the democratic regime before he was being murdered during the counter-coupe which would later lead to the destruction and the deunification of Nigeria. People also fail to remember that Aguiyi and some other high ranking officers purposedly matched to Balewa's residence to warn him of an imminent coupe rumours spreading around and to listen to his couseling and orders but the old man couldn't give any. He was too trusting and too naive.

So let's try to be civil and unbiased about this matter of very sensitive nature. Nigeria was formed from distrust. Distrust from the Northerners towards the South and vice versa. It's so sad that the driving force of the first coupe where the South-Eastern brethren. It shouldn't have been them. It should have been someone else. Maybe we wouldn't be suffering from prejudice like we've been for over 40 years.

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Re: Aguiyi-ironsi: Igbo Leaders Blast Useni by juman(m): 2:47pm On Sep 29, 2013
One nigeria is a joke.
Re: Aguiyi-ironsi: Igbo Leaders Blast Useni by rosebowl01(m): 2:55pm On Sep 29, 2013
Your write up is filled with so many good fortune for Ibos and bad fortune for others excuses. To summarize your account: as it played out, they hit 99% kill rate for Northerners, Yorubas etc, but they hit 1% kill rate for Ibos. "It was a Nigerian coup" yeah right!

uglybugz:
Chinua Achebe wrote his memoir , I have read his book and I wonder what it is that is so foul. Every man is entitled to his opinion. Useni on the other hand granted an interview that was quite candid, again he is entitled to his opinion.
I frown against the tribal coloration of events , comments and what have you. As an Igbo man it is sad to read all that led to the war, as a Nigerian , I am also saddened by the loss of lives in all totality. We young Nigerians need to understand that the initial coup wasn't an Igbo coup per say but a Nigerian coup as all tribes actively participated in the coup.
I like hearing from elders, they are the custodians of history. However, we the young ones should be mindful of all we assimilate . Stories are told to suit the story teller, let's always sieve stories that we hear so as to learn from them and not aggravate the polity.
From all I know as a Christian, there is no Igbo , Hausa, Yoruba, Ijaw, Nigerian heaven or hell, we are all one people, let us make our diversity our strength.
For posterity sake, I'm adding a piece from Dawodus site on the five majors.
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Because of the death of most of the principal actors, the true sequence of events during Nigeria’s first military coup of January 15th 1966 have become clouded by rumour, and outright mythology.  Several misconceptions formed in the gossipy aftermath of the coup have assumed the status of fact.  I attempt in this article, to expose some of the primary myths. 

FIVE MAJORS?

 

One enduring myth is that Nigeria’s first military coup was carried out by “five Igbo Majors”.   The source of this myth is the “we were five in number” comment, which the coup’s most visible, participant: Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu, made in an interview with Dennis Ejindu (Africa and the world - May 1967) after the coup.    The “five Majors” myth was later perpetuated by Captain Ben Gbulie’s book on the coup entitled “Nigeria’s Five Majors”, the title of which he recently admitted borrowing from a BBC play of the same name. 

When Nzeogwu made his infamous “we were five” comment, he made no reference to the rank of the “five”.   He was merely referring to the five designated strategic regional commanders of the coup.  In fact, no less than nine Majors were originally billed to take part in the coup.  These were Majors Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna, Ademoyega, Okafor, Anuforo, Chukwuka, Obienu, Onwuatuegwu and Chude-Sokei.   Shortly before the coup, Chude-Sokei was posted overseas.  On the coup day itself, Obienu failed to show, leaving seven Majors as participants.   When it came to execution, the Majors designated five officers as regional commanders for the coup’s execution.  Of Nzeogwu’s “five”, there were “the two of us in the North” (Nzeogwu and Major Tim Onwuatuegwu), and three more in the South.   

The head of the Lagos operations was Major Emmanuel Ifeajuna.  That makes three Majors so far.   The squad, which killed Chief Samuel Akintola in Ibadan, was led by CAPTAIN Nwobosi.   That makes four (three Majors and one Captain). There was no coup in the Mid-West as no military formation was based in that region.  However, Lieutenant Oguchi was dispatched to the east to arrest the Premier of the Eastern region: Dr Michael Okpara.  The identity of the fifth member is the most problematic.  Majors Don Okafor and Adewale Ademoyega were given much responsibility for the Lagos branch of the coup, and it is likely that one of these two men was the fifth commander. 

WHO WAS THE LEADER?

 

Major Nzeogwu has since 1966, been touted as the leader of the January 1966 coup.  This has been widely presumed due to the visible role which Nzeogwu played during and after the coup.  Nzeogwu was the only Major to successfully execute the coup in his designated target region.   He then followed up his coup success with his infamous “our enemies are the…..” speech.   Thus the (false) assumption that he was the coup leader spread.    The truth may be somewhat different. It was not until the coup plot reached its logistical stage that Nzeogwu was brought in to the conspiratorial group.  The brains behind the coup was probably Major Emmanuel Ifeajuna, however Ifeajuna was chased out of Nigeria’s then capital city of Lagos by Major-General Ironsi.  Realising that Ironsi was rounding up those that took part in the coup, Ifeajuna fled to Ghana, leaving Nzeogwu to hold the fort. 

“THESE BOOKISH PEOPLE”

 

The ideological circle of for the January coup seems to have consisted primarily of officers who had embarked upon military careers after completing university degrees. The late former military governor of the Northern Region: Hassan Katsina once commented on the presence of some “bookish people” who had joined the Army for rather different reasons from the normal military crowd.   Katsina was probably referring to the graduates that had begun to join the Army.   These graduates may have been exposed to the left wing political doctrine which was sweeping across much of Africa, Asia, and South America at the time. In January 1966, the Nigerian Army had six graduates: Ojukwu, Olutoye, Banjo, Ademoyega, Ifeajuna, and Rotimi.  Three or four of these graduates were involved conceptually, or physically in the January coup. Of the direct participants, Ademoyega had a degree in History from the University of London, and Ifeajuna was a graduate of the University of Ibadan. 

Although not physically involved in the January coup, Lt-Colonels Ojukwu and Banjo had been accused of showing a greater than average interest in political matters.   Security reports concerning coup plotting by Banjo were passed to Prime Minister Balewa, who ignored them.   Major Ademoyega claims that the Majors had at some point in time, floated the idea of a coup to Ojukwu and Banjo, along with Lt-Colonels Hilary Njoku and Francis Fajuyi.  The four Lt-Colonels were not opposed to a military coup, but Njoku and Ojukwu were “unsure” about whether to participate (see Ademoyega: “Why We Struck”).   None of the four Lt-Colonels got physically involved when the Majors eventually struck and three (Njoku, Ojukwu, Fajuyi) actually played a role (to varying degrees) in crushing the coup, while Fajuyi and Ojukwu became military governors in  Ironsi’s military administration. 

A MAN CALLED KADUNA

 

Nzeogwu was a devout catholic, a teetotaler, a non-smoker, and despite being a bachelor, did not spend much time chasing women.  What possessed a puritanical, bible bashing, innocent young man like Nzeogwu to murder unarmed civilians in the middle of the night?   What is clear is that Nzeogwu had harboured some anti-government sentiment for several years before 1966.  Nzeogwu’s boss at the Nigerian Military Training College: Colonel Ralph Shodeinde, had in the past reported Nzeogwu to Army Headquarters for allegedly disseminating anti-government rhetoric to junior officers.  Shodeinde’s report claimed that Nzeogwu had been attempting to poison junior officers’ minds against the Government (see Obasanjo: “An intimate portrait of Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu”).  Nigeria’s current Defence Secretary: Lt-Gen Theophilus Danjuma was aware of Nzeogwu’s coup recruitment policy.   As a former colleague of Nzeogwu, Danjuma noted that “Nzeogwu was a very charming person.  He had his method, he would start by criticizing government and then watch your reaction…..if you joined him in criticising the government…..then he would say well, we would (sic) fix them one day.  That’s how he recruited”.  Tim Onwuatuegwu bought Nzeogwu’s anti-government line.  Onwuatuegwu was a colleague of Major Nzeogwu at the Nigerian Military Training College, where Onwuatuegwu was also an instructor.  Onwuatuegwu was tagged a dull, parade ground “goody two shoes” type by one his own course-mates at Sandhurst but fell under Nzeogwu’s spell and was convinced enough to break into the house of, and shoot his own Brigade commander (Brigadier Ademulegun). One officer that seems to have been unaffected by Nzeogwu’s political rhetoric was a cadet named Salihu Ibrahim.   Ibrahim was training at the Nigerian Military Training College while Nzeogwu (chief instructor at the College) and company hatched the coup plot.  Despite being close to Nzeogwu, Ibrahim matured into a “vintage professional soldier” (Chris Alli: The Siege Of Nation) who abhorred military participation in Government.  Ibrahim retired from the Nigerian Army in 1993 after rising to the rank of Lt-General, and serving as Chief of Army Staff.  Strangely for a man who disliked military coups and military governments, he served as a member of firstly Major-General Buhari’s Supreme Military Council from 1984-85, and in Ibrahim Babangida’s Armed Forces Ruling Council thereafter. 

THE ONLY IGBO TO DIE

 

Many claim that the January 15th 1966 coup was a gigantic Igbo plot to transfer control of the Federal Government from northerners to Igbos.   However, one stumbling block in this argument was that the Majors’ killed an Igbo officer during the coup.   The proponents of the “Igbo coup” argument have tried to rationalize the murder of Lt-Col Arthur Unegbe by arguing that he was not initially a target of the Majors, but was only killed because he refused to surrender the keys of the armoury.  This argument displays an ignorance of military postings and procedure.  At the time of the January coup, Unegbe was the Quartermaster-General of the Nigerian Army at Army Headquarters in Lagos.  Not being in command of a combat unit, he had no access to any armoury keys.  As soldiers, the Majors would have known this.   Also, the fact that Unegbe was SHOT proves that the Majors were already armed when they got to him.  Why kill a man in order to get something you already have?   Additionally, the mutineers in other units outside Lagos managed to get their hands on weapons without resorting to killing the respective Quartermasters of their various units.    What is more probable is that Unegbe was killed because he was known to be close to Brigadier Maimalari.  Thus the Majors probably figured that Unegbe had to be silenced in order to prevent him from raising the alarm. 

THE ROLE OF NORTHERN SOLDIERS

 

Not many realize that several officers of northern origin took part in Nigeria’s first military coup.  The “Igbo coup” tag attached to the Majors’ assault ignores the fact that scores of northern officers took part in the Lagos operations, and even assisted Nzeogwu when he stormed the residence of the Northern Region’s premier: Ahmadu Bello.  Nzeogwu  later described the detachment of troops accompanying him to Bello’s house as “a truly Nigerian gathering” (New Nigerian – 18th January 1966).   Nzeogwu pointed out that the northern soldiers accompanying him “had the chance to drop out.  More than that, they had bullets.  They had been issued with bullets but I was unarmed.  If they disagreed they could have shot me….most of the Other Ranks were Northerners but they followed”.   Among the prominent northern soldiers that helped Nzeogwu to overthrow the Northern Region’s government was John Atom Kpera.  Kpera later became the military governor of Benue State.  Many of the soldiers that accompanied Major Ifeajuna when he abducted the Prime Minister: Tafawa Balewa, were also northerners. 

IRONSI

 

The Majors’ failure to arrest or kill the General Officer Commanding (GOC) the Nigerian Army: Major-General Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi, has led some to believe that he was part of, or was at the very least tipped off about, the coup plot.    Ironsi and other senior officers had in the weeks leading up to the coup become concerned by the possibility of a junior officers’ coup.  These concerns were passed on to the Prime Minister who either did not take them seriously, or chose not to act in response. 

Ironsi was definitely on the Majors’ hit list and Major Nzeogwu later regretted that they did not manage to get him (“We got some but not all.  General Ironsi was to have been shot”).  Ironsi’s escape owed much to good fortune, and the Majors tactical mistake in arresting or killing other senior officers before they got hold of Ironsi.  The commotion caused by the murders of other officers alerted Ironsi to the coup and he was able to rally troops who helped him to put down the Majors’ coup.  Ironsi had been tipped off about the coup by a telephone call from the Army’s Adjutant-General: Lt-Col James Pam.  Shortly after ending the telephone call with Ironsi, Pam was abducted and murdered by officers involved in the plot.   On his way to commence moves to crush the coup, Ironsi actually came across some junior officers that were involved in the coup.  It is possible that some of these young officers lost their nerve when confronted by the intimidating presence of their GOC.   When he encountered a checkpoint manned by some of the mutineers, Ironsi simply stepped out of his vehicle, and roared “get out of my way!” (an order which was promptly obeyed) before continuing his journey.  After the coup was suppressed, Ironsi met with the surviving members of the federal cabinet.  Even northern ministers present at that meeting conceded that Ironsi seemed genuinely upset by, and wept about the death of his military colleagues. 

As often happens with emotive events, we sometimes allow our judgment, and the facts, to be obscured by rumour and grab hold of any theory – no matter how implausible.  I hope that I have managed to shed more light on the events of that fateful night that so drastically altered Nigeria’s political landscape"

Re: Aguiyi-ironsi: Igbo Leaders Blast Useni by Nobody: 3:27pm On Sep 29, 2013
So far, from all I've observed, you guy seem to summerize history in a point that suits his/her position.
Anybody who wants to know the cause of the first/second miltary pogrom and the eventual civil war should start from the pre-independence era then you'll see the bitter and cold truth glaring at us
Re: Aguiyi-ironsi: Igbo Leaders Blast Useni by druid06(m): 3:36pm On Sep 29, 2013
madam_oringo:

In case you don't know or are pretending, Zik did not magically find himself traveling to London. He was TIPPED OFF by Ifeajuna and co. who were supposed to take care of the SE. I read that Ifeajuna and Zik are somewhat related. Note, this was not the first time Zik ran away, he did also before then. Read more history, I am typing from my phone and cannot get up to write anything longer.

Number 2, be honest the coup is an ibo coup for at least 3 reasons, the majority of the coup plotters are ibos, the leaders of the coup are mostly ibos and the supposed victims that were tipped off and go away are ibos and were tipped off by ibos. No one is stupid not to see that. If a statistic sample shows even 50.1%, the entire sample population will be classified by that majority. Except you can show otherwise, it was an ibo coup.

Number 3, ironsi was not some innocent man who just happened to be a senior officer. What did Ironsi do about the ibo coupists who had just killed national leaders and people from other parts of the country? NOTHING!! He kept them away prisons in the east or wherever and gave them their ranks and uniforms, who be mumu?? Ironsi had 6 months or so to act or do something, all he did was fuckall nothing! Instead, he brought up Mojekwu (anothet ibo man) and his useless group to come up with the framework for Decree 34 that abolished Nigeria's regional governments and introduced the unitary government tht has held down Nigeria ti today. A unitary government ensures that the most progressive Western Nigeria's economic and developmental progress will then be slowed down to 0 and give the ibos to leverage on the Hausas by effectively keeping the top leadership position of the country. The blow back was that Ironsi and his advisers did not see that they had neither the mental capacity or military history of the majority north and west of the country. Ironsi was killed (along with a truly innocent Fajuyi) busy hosting this Ironsi (ibos do everything to rubbish his name while exonerating the pussy footing Ironsi who brought him into the conflict) and the game started by the ibos have been played on the rules they set only made more effective by other parts of the country. Today the SW is back in the economic, developmental, social and innovative leadership of the country and ahead of the SE while the north have had over 30 years at the saddle. Ironsi's plan for the ibos and ojukwus indiscretion have backfired and left ibos in an untenable position. Even the Ijaws have gained ascendancy over the ibos and except you people do the right things and apologize to the country, you will stay very long loko eru.

We the Igbos should apologize to the country on what grounds? Are you crazy? Has the Northerners apologized for the thousand of innocent South Eastern military officers who were arrested, tortured and prosecuted for the crime they did not commit after the counter-coupe. Has Nigeria apologized for the millions of Igbo brothers and sisters who lost their lives during the civil was due to malnutrition and other death related incidents during the civil war?. Has the Yorubas and Awolowo apologized to the South Eastern brethren for being a traitor and going back on their word to support Biafra?

You keep on making false assertments which has no right backing whatsoever. Where you there when Ifeajuna tipped off Zik that an imminent coupe was in progress. It was no news at that time Zik was the ceremonial head in Nigeria and one of his duty was to attend meetings, meet with dignitories locally and abroad. It was just pure coincidence and sheer luck he was out of the country when the coupe took place. The part about informing Zik is in it's absolutely ridiculous as Zik has always been a smart and intelligent man and I am sure if he had heard the news about an imminent coupe, he would have seen the danger of what it was going to do to the nation peace and try to avert it.

Did you also see the part where I wrote about when Ironsi and some other top military officers (name I can remember at the moment) has a visit with Balewa warning about the rumour of an imminent coupe and asked him for his cousel which he refused to give probably out of sheer ignorance or buffoonery, I'm not sure which. If Ironsi was one of the top mutineer of that first failed coupe, why would he take such a risk exposing his for government dominance and a possible investigation which might lead back to him if he were involved.

Like I said, a prominent overthrow of the government and seizure of power was imminent not regarding who was first going to plot the first coupe. It was to the dillema to the South Eastern brethren that the top orchestrators of the first coupe were of our brethren. If you were going to count each geopolitical zone involved in their mutinee in chronological other, you would get to notice that brethren from the middlebelts were more in numbers. When Aguiyi Ironsi became the supreme commander, his first task was put the country back into a state of serenity as at that time there was so tumoil and disaray going on. Also, he had to investigate who were the perpeterator of the first 1966 coupe. This takes time and not something you would come to conclusion in a second, before he could put and two together, the criminals had already fled and left the country if I understand right.

You also seem to forget that the original coupist plan was to murder all the top leaders including Ironsi himself. If he wasn't smart and brazzen, they would have been successful in taking his life too. I don't totally agree with you about Ironsi bringing the three zones into a unilateral government because I am not sure but if he did, it was an error on his past. This man had no experience in leading a nation, the only job he knows is to defend the nation and yet the mantle of leadership inadvertly fell into his hands since he was the most senior officer then. Being that inexperienced, he might have made some wrong policies that might have subconciously done more harm than good but later on when he was murdered and when Gowon later became the GOC, Ojukwu tried to restore things back in order. He tried to return Nigeria back the way we were, back to regional government where he tricked Gowon into signing a document during the Aburi accord in Ghana. It was your same brother Awolowo if I'm correct who adviced Gowon not to legitimatize that written document.

Go ask anybody and they would tell you thesame thing I just did.

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Re: Aguiyi-ironsi: Igbo Leaders Blast Useni by pazienza(m): 4:18pm On Sep 29, 2013
0lumide:

Yeah fooooll what caused the whole nonsense in the western region? A Western premier bowing down to the north was about to be impeached, he ran to Azikiwe and Ahmedu Bello who interfered in the affairs of western region. What did the fool Azikiwe do? He conspired with Bello and Tafawa Balewa to send Awolowo and his men to jail. What happened after that? they balkanized the Western region, leaving their own regions in tact? Igbos on this forum are blind foools with selective sight. Ode oshi!! Koshi lor jor... Make una go die!! If una do any how again, another war will brew and you will be conquered again. This time, it will be Fashola or Tinubu or Aregbesola that your Igbo tribaleast will be making immortal. Fooools


Stop the bullshit already, it was Awo's yoruba treachery that made him to try to play a fast one on zik,zik realized on time and the treacherous snake got left on the cold, he would later try to usurp balewa's government, was caught,and tried by a court of law,found guilty of treason and rightly jailed like a thief he was. Civil war saved him, he played a fast one on Ojukwu,succeded that time around, but wanted more, when he could not get the power he sought,he attempted to usurp the govt, for a record second time,was once again caught,and was given the option of jail or exile by IBB, but the coward took his own life.


On the midwest part,truth is that they were never part of colony of lagos(present daySW) they were part of protectorate of southern nigeria( todays SE and SS), they were joined with colony of lagos by the british,cos colony of lagos was poor. The union was a failure from the beginning,as the tribalist yorubas who were not used to dealing with other non yoruba tribes marginalized them, and it was the Oba of bini and other ignored monarch's of the midwest that sought for independence from the unholy union with tribalist yorubas, the east simply helped their fellow brothers from protectorate of southern nigeria that got yolked with the yorubas.
Re: Aguiyi-ironsi: Igbo Leaders Blast Useni by slimfit1(m): 7:34pm On Sep 29, 2013
The igbos are actually suffering as a result of this coup simple. Don't know why they are still crying to be honest. One thing about this people is that they find it difficult to tell each other the truth that's why they don't have decent road obi I'm talking to you your people are very ignorant.

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