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Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 7:06pm On Oct 30, 2013 |
Plagiarism carries inherent risks. At one level there is the potential that the information being copied is inaccurate, at the other it can be an illegal breaking of copyright. It is important to note that the majority of Watchtower doctrine comes from other sources. For instance, the date teachings of Russell, including 1914, were from the nineteenth century Adventist movement. Rutherford introduced the idea in Watchtower literature that Jesus did not die on a cross, but this was an idea that at the time was being promoted by some Protestant Preachers, such as E.W. Bullinger. The arguments in the Creation book have been taken from Creationist books, including the misapplication of science quotes. If the information is correct and properly referenced, then it is not an issue what the source was, but Witnesses should be realistic that doctrine is not magically revealed to the leaders by Holy Spirit. Images in the Watchtower have also landed the Watchtower in trouble. According to one illustrator from Bethel, it was common for some artists to source and copy pictures from magazines. One of the more illegal examples was the cover of the Watchtower 1982 Sep 15. During 1981 and 1982, the following Johnny Walker advertisement appeared in magazines such as the U.S. News and World Report 29 Jun 1981 and certain editions of Reader’s Digest Sep 1982 page 37. The Watchtower plagiarised the advertisement, with slight alterations for the cover of the Watchtower 1982 Sep 15. Original advertisement and plagiarised advertisement below 1 Like
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Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 7:14pm On Oct 30, 2013 |
On becoming aware of this violation of copyright, the distributor of Johnny Walker, Somerset Importers, contacted the Watchtower. It was agreed to change future printings, including in the Bound volume and foreign editions. Scan copies of letter sent to watchtower below
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Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 7:19pm On Oct 30, 2013 |
The new cover was changed to a grove of trees against a mountain. Not only did the Watchtower break copyright, but they have been less than forthright with readers enquiring about the change, who have been advised it was for “a more appropriate and suitable illustration…” If an enquirer was unaware about the copyright issue, they must have been left wondering what was inappropriate about the sunset.
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Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 2:51pm On Nov 01, 2013 |
An unfortunate example appears in the book You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth. This was released when I was a teenage boy, and I fondly remember the picture on page 93. The woman was so beautiful that I could clearly understand the temptation that the angels must have felt whilst looking down upon the earth. What I did not know at the time was that this woman was a real person, Pascale Petit, who appeared in Playboy November 1963 and some raunchy movies, such as the European sex comedy Frau Wirtin hat auch einen Grafen. The inclusion of this picture in the Live Forever book was a potential copyright infringement, as the image of Pascale Petit was taken directly from the cover of the 13th August 1961 German magazine Stern.
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Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Kabieosi: 8:32pm On Nov 01, 2013 |
@ Yooguyz Hand caught in the cookie jar. What were they playing at? They are turning out to be like a right load of silly pranksters now All these shocking exposé you've been uncovering so far sef, makes one wonder, what other skeleton(s) has Watchtower in the cupboard. Hmm. 2 Likes |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 9:09pm On Nov 01, 2013 |
Kabieosi: @ Yooguyz the truth sire is, they are a load of silly pranksters. Am trying to lay hands on a shocking document at the new york head quaters. Hoping to give more exposè from me. 1 Like |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by larrymoore(m): 10:07pm On Nov 01, 2013 |
Following..., as I await more evidences 1 Like |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 6:27pm On Jan 02, 2014 |
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Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by MyJoe: 6:42pm On Jan 02, 2014 |
It is well known – to informed people, anyway - that 1914, cross and others are not original to the Witnesses. But that does not make it plagiarism since the Witnesses can easily put up the argument that they are coincidentally “true”. On the German magazine girl, do you have information that the Witnesses used that picture without permission? If they got permission to use it, it would not be plagiarism. On the Creation book, yeah, that was a particularly new low for the Witnesses. You can’t read that book without wondering what got into the writers. |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 6:51pm On Jan 02, 2014 |
MyJoe: It is well known – to informed people, anyway - that 1914, cross and others are not original to the Witnesses. But that does not make it plagiarism since the Witnesses can easily put up the argument that they are coincidentally “true”. Remind me, i will come up with a thread on that later. On the German magazine girl, do you have information that the Witnesses used that picture without permission? If they got permission to use it, it would not be plagiarism. look at what is coming out of your mouth!? Permission to use the picture of a porn star in a bible article! By an organization that claims to be God's sole mouthpiece? ARE YOU OK!? 4 Likes |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by MyJoe: 7:01pm On Jan 02, 2014 |
Calm down, sir. You were talking about plagiarism and that's what I commented on. If you want to talk about "indecency", then talk about it - but the artist may have mindlessly lifted the picture without knowing the girl's occupation. I didn't until I read your post. Now, again, do you have information that the picture was used without permission as was obviously the case with the Johnny Walker ad? If it was used with permission, your charge of plagiarism will not stick. Thank you. |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by mahdino: 10:37pm On Jan 02, 2014 |
Yooguyz: There are more |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Efere701(m): 7:09am On Jan 03, 2014 |
Kabieosi: @ Yooguyz Í dnt knw who you assume Jehovah's witnesses to be. If you assume them to be angels who fell from the sky, then Ýou Áre dead wrong. They are imperfect humans just likÉ everyone on earth. Jehovah too looks at them in such light. Jehovah's witnesses have all the imperfections of humañs, all the imperfeCtions of the first centuRy chrÍstiÀn, but they uphold the truth from the bible. If you try to paint them in a bad light because of any possible mistake they made, your effort will continue to be futile because despite their human imperfections their faith and love for Jehovah is sooo evident. Despite many people like you writing negative articles on the witnesses, you'll be shocked to find out how manÝ people get baptised as Jehovahks witnesses daily, how many study the bible with the witnesses. God is using ordinary people to accomplish an extraordinary task according to his will and purpose. Even Jesus and his disciples despite their self-sacrificing life were condemned. The first century christians too were spoken of abusively. So if you lived during their era, you would as well have picked up Ôn some of their humanly mistakes to discredt them. A big point I'm making is that many have fought toÒth and nail to stamp out JW's, they verbally abuse, physically assault, tell lies to disc®edit, spread propaganda and all the likes, but JW'§ grow in number year by year becÀuse jehovah blesses their effort. Jehovah is not even inte®ested in numbers, only 8 people who obeyed him survived the flood of Noah's day. Shows you GÓd's thinking on Ñumbers. JW's do not have a job to turn evryone to Jehovah, they do their pÀrt and when its time God will say the work is done. So even if billions Óf artÍcles should be written against JW's they'll continue to increase in number. Your course is a futile one because you are not fighting against JW's. You are up against Jehovah God. 3 Likes |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Emusan(m): 9:28am On Jan 03, 2014 |
Eferr701: Í dnt knw who you assume Jehovah's witnesses to be. If you assume them to be angels who fell from the sky, then Ýou Áre dead wrong. [size=14pt]They are imperfect humans just likÉ everyone on earth[/size] Jehovah too looks at them in such light. @Bolded- That's why they always interpret the word of God based on human understanding. Despite many people like you writing negative articles on the witnesses, you'll be shocked to find out how manÝ people get baptised as Jehovahks witnesses daily, how many study the bible with the witnesses. Nobody is against JWs. The actual fact is this, JWs based their teaching on circumstances surrounding them rather than seeking the help of God. That's why they change doctrine sometimes and people like you failed to look outside the box. In fighting againt TRINITY JWs put a great flaw in their own Bible(NWT) how? In John 1:3 it was written [size=14pt]"All things were created through him(The word/Christ), apart from him(The Word/Christ) not even one thing came into existence, what has come into existence"[/size] Here it shows that without Christ nothing came into existence. A similar statement appeared in Colossians 1:16-18 but because the word FIRSTBORN appeared in verse 15 JWs thought Christ is the first created being of God so they begin to insert word "OTHER" in those verses. [size=14pt]If not a single thing came into existence through Christ, how come JWs said Archangel Micheal a created being is Jesus Christ?[/size] If JWs didn't erase God in verse 1 of that John 1 they can still claim that verse 3 is referring to God but in other to eliminate Christ from Trinity they choose to used "a god". Read that John 1:3 with open mind in NWT and compare it with Colossians 1:16-18. This is a body that changed who Archangel Michael is 5times and teach the worship of Jesus Christ more than 70 years. SMH 2 Likes |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by edogho(m): 11:34am On Jan 03, 2014 |
And you think you're right,with this? not all jws were born into jw. We know all this things,thinking out of the box is what made us choose jw over the church doctrines. To me o,I think you should take tour advice. Now all churches believe in the 3in1 talk except jws,you tell me whose head is in a box. 1 Like |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 2:21pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
Emusan that was a perfect response |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 2:24pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
edogho: And you think you're right,with this? not all jws were born into jw. We know all this things,thinking out of the box is what made us choose jw over the church doctrines. To me o,I think you should take tour advice. Now all churches believe in the 3in1 talk except jws,you tell me whose head is in a box. Finish drinking your beer before coming to nairaland to post senseless comments. |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 2:35pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
edogho: And you think you're right,with this? not all jws were born into jw. We know all this things,thinking out of the box is what made us choose jw over the church doctrines Am curious i'ld like to know why you think the watchtower society is different from other christian groups? . To me o,I think you should take tour advice. Now all churches believe in the 3in1 talk except jws,you tell me whose head is in a box. I guess you are talking about trinity right? The Oneness Pentecostals do not believe in Trinity. You may have to go through my thread, it contains an expose about how WTTS deceptively discredits the trinity doctrine www.nairaland.com/1466999/inaccurate-trinity-statements-made-wtts I think you thinking has been padlocked into a big black box. |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 3:51pm On Jan 03, 2014 |
yet, another example of plaigarism A further example of Watchtower copying other sources is the Bible Stories book, with several illustrations closely resembling images from The Bible Story by Arthur S. Maxwell (Review and Herald Publishing Association 1955).
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Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by edogho(m): 3:48pm On Jan 06, 2014 |
I don't know if I should laugh at your.cheap talk. I'm actually drinking and typing buh not beer, naALOMO sure pass o. Do you know the watchtower have pages usually the front page where they tell you the sources of pictures used? I don't even know why I'm wasting mi time here. Your accusations are baseless and senseless,try get some of those(getting angry at your attitude). Don't expect mi comments here again cos I'm moving on to more reasonable threads. peace 2 Likes |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 7:00pm On Jan 06, 2014 |
edogho: I don't know if I should laugh at your.cheap talk. I'm actually drinking and typing buh not beer, naALOMO sure pass o. Do you know the watchtower have pages usually the front page where they tell you the sources of pictures used? @boldened, and then you think its ok for them to source for picture from a pornographic magazine? Are you high? I don't even know why I'm wasting mi time here. Your accusations are baseless and senseless If you think so, try refuting the evidence above with facts and stop ranting! Am waiting... |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Yooguyz: 4:29pm On Jan 10, 2014 |
Yooguyz: As expected, you ran away. No facts! No proof! Just sentiments and unsubstantiated accusations! Mtcheeeew. |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by Akwaowoa(m): 8:39am On Nov 09, 2014 |
just saw this thread! @op its only a fool that will read our magazines and post this bullshit without observing our photocredits on page 2 of all our publications. as for trinity, its only a fool also that will believe in something his master never mentioned during his over 33 years of life on earth, and later life in heaven! never, not even in modern english will you find the word trinity in any of the tens of bible tanslations or even in vernacular! that is pure blindness that can only be explained by 2 corinthians 4:4. as for using an indecency star in that magazine, ur comments prove that you are not of God. by your words you have condemned her, something Jesus Christ will never do! and lemme be a bit stupid. JWs may nt 4giv me, but to be sincere who seduced the angels, modest women, or immodest women? its only a fool i repeat that will use a modest picture to illustrate something immodest. and besides the picture in our generation of today is not so indecent like our celebrities who now walk about naked, with no bra and pants! you have nothing to say! @ you are just an apostate! i will remain a JW TILL I DIE. |
Re: Watchtower Exposed! Disgusting Pliagarism~with Hardcore Evidence~ by rxlx: 6:49am On Aug 19, 2015 |
Forget the harmless plagiarism - that is just a smokescreen to draw attention away from the Satanic occult images hidden in their pictures in Awake, Watchtower and even their Bible! JWs are Satan's greatest deception - and hardly anyone knows it! They've been putting subliminal images in their publications right back to the 1920's - 100 years of the most cynical brainwashing! The picture of the girl lifted from the other magazine also has demonic faces in it! They always have subliminal images of horned goats/beasts, demonic faces, KKK or Penitente hooded faces, male sex organs everywhere. As this has been going on for at least 100 years since Rutherford it must be due to him being one of Satan's Freemason slaves. |
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