noblezone:

Bros, the existence of Nigeria is already in contention~!

noblezone: Massob should please spare me and oncentrate on the struggle for Biafra!
It seems they are now a politcal party.

Anyway, we have told Anambra people that history will not be kind to our generation if we let the APC take over Anambra at this moment.

Sure, Peter Obi messed up but we have to consider the future while taking decisions now.
Anambra cannot afford to go to the opposition at this historic moment.

Apart from the Ngige personality sensation which I know is overrated, there is nothing progressive about the APC.

Just this week the irokos of the party was in Port Harcourt on their knees begging a tout and a fraudster like Amaechi to join them just because they want power at all cost. It was a shame to see "saint Buhari" mingling without shame with criminals like Tinubu.

Let me still call on Biafrans to be wise as serpent.

We are not Nigerians, we are Biafrans.

CyberG:

I think you are the one who needs to wake-up! Your points are premised on conjectures and speculations while I am telling you the reality, historically and present! If Nigeria remains the way it is (I hope not and would choose either sovereign independent countries, which may not happen with out kind of corrupt leaders and people; or REGIONS), at some point power will return to the north and more and more elections will be decided for electoral majority (meaning rigging could be reduced with the right level of political will). Where is the majority in Nigeria and what parts of Nigeria have proven that they can always negotiate and achieve a consensus? Since you mentioned SS and SE, be sure that the Westerners have been campaigned for what you are now saying the SS/SE want since before independence! When it comes to controlling our resources, you can be sure that no part of Nigeria is BEST positioned for that on DAY ONE like the South West!

[b]List any and everything required for economic growth, political stability, peace, foreign policy, natural resources, human resources - there is TOO MUCH already NOW available in the South West! That is exactly what I want, a control of the resources of the people by the people for the people! I know you are mostly thinking of oil, which is abundant in Ondo, Lagos and Ogun but did you read this week that the Toyota Hydrogen car is ready to go on sale in 2014? Electric cars (chevy volt) is already in the market and the US (the world's largest energy consumer now has so much of it's own energy sources, it does not need anybody's oil again!). Think demand and supply (Economics 101), when the demand for a supply declines the price for that commodity declines! Now, a scenario where the price of oil exports diminishes radically is a good possibility, so from a price of $90+ to say $50+, how is that going to be profitable for a people who are behind in infrastructure, education, security, human resources, a polluted environment needing $ Billions to clean-up and restore agricultural activities? Now you also forget one more thing, should Nigeria break-up, all the oil wells already ceded to Joint Venture Contracts with Shell, Chevron, etc will subsist and cannot be cancelled by an organized Nigerian country going into re-arrangement except it can afford to buy off the companies! Now, tell me how much money will Nigerian leaders be willing to spend to buy off billions in dollars of assets of Shell and Chevron, so that any SS/SE can benefit? Go and think about that because if you think people who NOW are happy to spend N 1 Tr on food for themselves alone, have not budgeted N 1 M for your whole family to feed will go spend $ 10 - $ 20 billion to buy off Shell, Chevron, Banks, interest fees so that they can give it to the SS / SE is seriously mistaken! If they will not do that, the oil contracts remain, ownership of the oil well which significant numbers are owned by Nigerians from somewhere other than the SS, who will benefit?? Will a northerner who owns an oil well or controlling interest in an oil company not get even richer and make his people richer by doing even much less work and repatriating all profits ASAP? Now can you tell me what fixed assets are owned by the SS or SE in significant numbers that cost up to $ 1 B and cannot be easily paid off if or when Nigeria breaks?[/b]

Again, be objective here, do not get upset and start throwing insults around for lack of tangible answers!

- We are agreed on certain things: INDEPENDENCE for components of current Nigeria or at LEAST regions. The first one is a long shot and chances are that the thieving elites will NEVER allow that, some everyday people may not be bold to ask for independence but we can all take the middle ground - which would be music to our ears I presume.

- If either does happen, I will put it to you for a number of reasons of which I mentioned a couple in the foregoing paragraph that in the short and medium term, any regions that are harping on "their resources" cannot control those resources except they are able to buy the contractual rights already ceded to them by corporate Nigeria. This is $ billions you can not come up with for sure, the value of the oil will eventually decline and until it does, other people will still own and profit from your so called oil and have to do much less work whereas, you will have no such leverage in the West or North! The owners will have a right to be there for as long as they own it (by contracts that precedes the breakup) but the ordinary SS / SE native will have no right to remain or live in either the West or North. If you have contrary, OBJECTIVE, opinions, I'd like to hear it!

CyberG:

I think you are the one who needs to wake-up! Your points are premised on conjectures and speculations while I am telling you the reality, historically and present! If Nigeria remains the way it is (I hope not and would choose either sovereign independent countries, which may not happen with out kind of corrupt leaders and people; or REGIONS), at some point power will return to the north and more and more elections will be decided for electoral majority (meaning rigging could be reduced with the right level of political will). Where is the majority in Nigeria and what parts of Nigeria have proven that they can always negotiate and achieve a consensus? Since you mentioned SS and SE, be sure that the Westerners have been campaigned for what you are now saying the SS/SE want since before independence! When it comes to controlling our resources, you can be sure that no part of Nigeria is BEST positioned for that on DAY ONE like the South West!

[b]List any and everything required for economic growth, political stability, peace, foreign policy, natural resources, human resources - there is TOO MUCH already NOW available in the South West! That is exactly what I want, a control of the resources of the people by the people for the people! I know you are mostly thinking of oil, which is abundant in Ondo, Lagos and Ogun but did you read this week that the Toyota Hydrogen car is ready to go on sale in 2014? Electric cars (chevy volt) is already in the market and the US (the world's largest energy consumer now has so much of it's own energy sources, it does not need anybody's oil again!). Think demand and supply (Economics 101), when the demand for a supply declines the price for that commodity declines! Now, a scenario where the price of oil exports diminishes radically is a good possibility, so from a price of $90+ to say $50+, how is that going to be profitable for a people who are behind in infrastructure, education, security, human resources, a polluted environment needing $ Billions to clean-up and restore agricultural activities? Now you also forget one more thing, should Nigeria break-up, all the oil wells already ceded to Joint Venture Contracts with Shell, Chevron, etc will subsist and cannot be cancelled by an organized Nigerian country going into re-arrangement except it can afford to buy off the companies! Now, tell me how much money will Nigerian leaders be willing to spend to buy off billions in dollars of assets of Shell and Chevron, so that any SS/SE can benefit? Go and think about that because if you think people who NOW are happy to spend N 1 Tr on food for themselves alone, have not budgeted N 1 M for your whole family to feed will go spend $ 10 - $ 20 billion to buy off Shell, Chevron, Banks, interest fees so that they can give it to the SS / SE is seriously mistaken! If they will not do that, the oil contracts remain, ownership of the oil well which significant numbers are owned by Nigerians from somewhere other than the SS, who will benefit?? Will a northerner who owns an oil well or controlling interest in an oil company not get even richer and make his people richer by doing even much less work and repatriating all profits ASAP? Now can you tell me what fixed assets are owned by the SS or SE in significant numbers that cost up to $ 1 B and cannot be easily paid off if or when Nigeria breaks?[/b]

Again, be objective here, do not get upset and start throwing insults around for lack of tangible answers!

- We are agreed on certain things: INDEPENDENCE for components of current Nigeria or at LEAST regions. The first one is a long shot and chances are that the thieving elites will NEVER allow that, some everyday people may not be bold to ask for independence but we can all take the middle ground - which would be music to our ears I presume.

- If either does happen, I will put it to you for a number of reasons of which I mentioned a couple in the foregoing paragraph that in the short and medium term, any regions that are harping on "their resources" cannot control those resources except they are able to buy the contractual rights already ceded to them by corporate Nigeria. This is $ billions you can not come up with for sure, the value of the oil will eventually decline and until it does, other people will still own and profit from your so called oil and have to do much less work whereas, you will have no such leverage in the West or North! The owners will have a right to be there for as long as they own it (by contracts that precedes the breakup) but the ordinary SS / SE native will have no right to remain or live in either the West or North. If you have contrary, OBJECTIVE, opinions, I'd like to hear it!

noblezone:

Nigeria has no future!
Biafra is our furture

dayokanu:

Then why are you contesting for Governorship of a Nigerian state?

noblezone:

Nigeria has no future!
Biafra is our furture

eye4eye:


They claim they are not Nigerians, yet they keep collecting federal allocations, applying for Nigerian passports, and contesting elections in Nigeria. They want the presidency of Nigeria, yet they want Biafra. When are they going to make up their minds? You can't take the ibo clowns serious.

Origami III:

The word "Mumbling" is wrong . What i actually typed is "nimbling " but the auto dictionary changed it.



What the heck is biafra?A biafra that wont survive beyond a year by the time cameroun starts mumbling at her territories. With this type of secessionist ideology of you guys it will be most difficult to trust any ibo man with leadership.Igbos should go if they truly want to and stop disturbing our ears with cowardly shouts of biafra! biafra!! biafra!!! all the time.You guys are strangers living in our midst.You declare enmity against a people who are at peace with you without thinking of the eventual consequences of your actions.Other regions are secretly preparing their arsenals and defences while you guys are scattered and unprepared to handle the resultant effect of the very strange ideaology you uphold.

Dudu_Negro:

Hahahahahaha.......in the decision whether or not GEJ wins the election, Alaigbo's vote behind Gej will be like dropping a bottle of ink in the Atlantic and waiting to see color in the ocean.....a futile attempt!

Alaigbo will not count in what direction the country goes in 2015....but you can change that and you do it on Nov 16th 2013 in Anambra, well ahead of 2015.

Just listen to yourself.
I laugh in Igbo!
You should be worried about two tribes going to face other 248 ethnicities. Your problem is that you undermine the voting power of the minor ethnicities. To you, its just Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba and nothing else, hence a match between Hausa/Yoruba and Igbo, but you fail to understand that Ijaw, the largest minor ethnicity and the Efik/Ibibio/Annang, the second plus other groups in the South South and the Middlebelt would be voting for Jonathan.
Can you now see that you have lost this even before 2015

Dudu_Negro: If by omission or commission APC fails to get Presidency, Yorubaland will sideline its future and be reduced to play minority role in the affairs of national policy.(

Eze Promoe:
Just listen to yourself.
I laugh in Igbo!
You should be worried about two tribes going to face other 248 ethnicities. Your problem is that you undermine the voting power of the minor ethnicities. To you, its just Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba and nothing else, hence a match between Hausa/Yoruba and Igbo, but you fail to understand that Ijaw, the largest minor ethnicity and the Efik/Ibibio/Annang, the second plus other groups in the South South and the Middlebelt would be voting for Jonathan.
Can you now see that you have lost this even before 2015

Eze Promoe:
Just listen to yourself.
I laugh in Igbo!
You should be worried about two tribes going to face other 248 ethnicities. Your problem is that you undermine the voting power of the minor ethnicities. To you, its just Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba and nothing else, hence a match between Hausa/Yoruba and Igbo, but you fail to understand that Ijaw, the largest minor ethnicity and the Efik/Ibibio/Annang, the second plus other groups in the South South and the Middlebelt would be voting for Jonathan.
Can you now see that you have lost this even before 2015

dayokanu:

The whole ss/se is 11 states while nw/ne has 13 states by the time you add the 6sw states that means the opposition already has 19 states out of 36

That's already a loss for retardeen

Last time I checked, vote weren't counted by number of states but by the number of voters.
Do you know that the SS/SE have more number of electorates than any zone in the country? Go and check the result of 2011 election. How will a state like Jigawa, Zamfara, Gombe that is almost a desert with few number of electorates who barely knows what is happening in Nigeria, count in this election.
Do you think APC can win Lagos comfortably.
When the Benins, Igbos, Calabars, Ijaws etc, plus the Yoruba PDP loyalists of Lagos vote Jonathan, then it will not be so hard for you to come to terms with the fact that APC is a minority in Lagos.

Remember that PDP won ACN in Lagos with wild margin in the 2011 presidential polls

Eze Promoe:
Last time I checked, vote weren't counted by number of states but by the number of voters.
Do you know that the SS/SE have more number of electorates than any zone in the country? Go and check the result of 2011 election. How will a state like Jigawa, Zamfara, Gombe that is almost a desert with few number of electorates who barely knows what is happening in Nigeria, count in this election.
Do you think APC can win Lagos comfortably.
When the Benins, Igbos, Calabars, Ijaws etc, plus the Yoruba PDP loyalists of Lagos vote Jonathan, then it will not be so hard for you to come to terms with the fact that APC is a minority in Lagos.

Remember that PDP won ACN in Lagos with wild margin in the 2011 presidential polls

manny4life:

Dude has stayed in TX for too long (not even up to 7years) and he has forgotten how Nigerian voting system works: not by states but by voters. If we're to go by the unverified statistics that Igbos represent about 45% of Lagos, if this be the case, by the time you account for other minorities voting GEJ, wouldn't Lagos be lost to GEJ at the end of the day?

Eze Promoe:
Last time I checked, vote weren't counted by number of states but by the number of voters.
Do you know that the SS/SE have more number of electorates than any zone in the country? Go and check the result of 2011 election. How will a state like Jigawa, Zamfara, Gombe that is almost a desert with few number of electorates who barely knows what is happening in Nigeria, count in this election.
Do you think APC can win Lagos comfortably.
When the Benins, Igbos, Calabars, Ijaws etc, plus the Yoruba PDP loyalists of Lagos vote Jonathan, then it will not be so hard for you to come to terms with the fact that APC is a minority in Lagos.

Remember that PDP won ACN in Lagos with wild margin in the 2011 presidential polls

manny4life:

Dude has stayed in TX for too long (not even up to 7years) and he has forgotten how Nigerian voting system works: not by states but by voters. If we're to go by the unverified statistics that Igbos represent about 45% of Lagos, if this be the case, by the time you account for other minorities voting GEJ, wouldn't Lagos be lost to GEJ at the end of the day?

dayokanu:

No

Votes are based on states won and Number of voters

The most Populous states according to the Census are Kano, Lagos, Kaduna, Katsina, Oyo, in that order These states are for the opposition.

The 5 least populated states are Yobe, Taraba, Ebonyi, Nasarawa and Bayelsa only one of these is an APC state while 4 are some of those Retardeen won in 2011

The total population of the top 5 states is 36m according to the 2006 census, Thats almost more than the total population of SS plus SE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_population

Now tell me how the number would add up

In 2011 Most SW voters boycotted the election as they had little interest, In 2015 watch out for the turnout to kick out PDP and Retardeen

chukwudi44:
Bros the kweshion you should be asking yourself is what is the SS/MB/SE population in the states you mentioned for the opposition? The cosmopolitan nature of lagos would make it almost possible for any of the parties to secure up to 60% of the votes in lagos.We have more igbo voters in Lagos than even in an igbo state like Ebonyi.You also mentioned Kadunna ,by what percentage did Buhhari win Kadunna in 2011? You seem to forget the southern/Northern kadunna dichotony in Kadunna.It is even easier for APC to win in anambra than for it to win in southern Kadunna

ndu_chucks:

This post is preposterous!! Who are you to incinuate that the herd mentality is the order of the day in Igbo communities outside of Igboland? Why do you assume that Igbos in Lagos and elsewhere do not have independent minds and must follow the voting patterns of you self destructing elitists?

dayokanu:

In this same Lagos

1999 election Olu Falae won 88% of the votes in Lagos(More than any other state in Nigeria) despite the cosmopolitan nature and Ibos preferring Obasanjo

In 1993 MKO Abiola won 85% of the votes in Lagos despite the cosmopolitan nature and Ibos preferring Bashir Tofa/Sylvester Ugo

This same result pattern held for elections in 1979 and 1983 despite Ibos voting in a different direction

The truth is that in Lagos Yorubas solely hold the Political power and the other tribes dont have any effect.

Thats why in lagos no single LG electoral post is held by Ibos and any party who puts Ibos as deputy never mind Governor is guaranteed of a loss

Southern Kaduna is not a state And despite this Southern kaduna factor CPC still won the Kaduna state even in the Vice Presidents ward and this isnt going to change anytime soon

dayokanu:

How can anyone who claims to be educated even mention this 45% Ibo in public?

if Ibos are 45% then

[/quote]Southern Kaduna is not a state And despite this Southern kaduna factor CPC still won the Kaduna state even in the Vice Presidents ward and this isnt going to change anytime soon [quote]

dayokanu:

No

Votes are based on states won and Number of voters

The most Populous states according to the Census are Kano, Lagos, Kaduna, Katsina, Oyo, in that order These states are for the opposition.

The 5 least populated states are Yobe, Taraba, Ebonyi, Nasarawa and Bayelsa only one of these is an APC state while 4 are some of those Retardeen won in 2011

The total population of the top 5 states is 36m according to the 2006 census, Thats almost more than the total population of SS plus SE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_population

Now tell me how the number would add up

In 2011 Most SW voters boycotted the election as they had little interest, In 2015 watch out for the turnout to kick out PDP and Retardeen