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|Did The Devil Really Lie To Eve? by wirinet(m): 1:32pm On Jul 20, 2008|
In Genesis, after God was said to have created the world in seven days, although the terms days were not defined because the 24hr day was accepted much later by astronomers, also the first day of the bible was without sunrise and sunset ( the sun was not created yet). So after creation God put Adam in Eden, he then realised he was lonely, so he created a helper, the woman ( i hope you women realize you are helpers).
So after all said and done, God then told Adam that they can eat of all the trees except the one in the centre of the garden, and the day he eats it he will surely die.
Now the talking serpent (snake) came and told Eve, that God saying they would die is a Lie and that if they eat the fruit they would not die but that their eyes would be opened, and they would know the difference between good and evil. (that means up till this point they were robotic morons)
But when Adam and Eve eat the fruit, they did not die, but instead had their eyes opened, and immediately realised that they had been naked all along.
Now God did not realize what had happened until Adam and Eve hid themselves and God Knew they are wiser now and no morons anymore.
In anger God spewed out punishment to them, and God even expressed the fear, that the man he newly created is almost becoming like him and that if he should eat of the fruit of life, then man would be equal to God in every way. So God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden to prevent them from eating of the fruit of Life.
Now the question is Did the serpent tell a lie to Eve? What would have happen to man had they not eaten the fruit? how were they meant to conceive or was the world created initially for only Adam and Eve? Would we have had sciences, Arts, computers, without the knowledge acquired from the fruit?
I need answers
|Re: Did The Devil Really Lie To Eve? by olabowale(m): 3:23pm On Jul 20, 2008|
@Wirinet: I will love to read how the Bible pundits explain the lies? It seems as if the Bible Garden of Eden's Serpent is a pretty smart animal. It told them the true, which created fear in the Biblical God! You will see that the Bible seems to indicate that God did not want to let them eat from the tree. But He did not tell them the real truth, which they found only when the Serpent to them that it was okay.
I really have to ask, where was the Garden of Eden located? What happened to the trees afterward? And what happened to the talking Serpent? Finally what was Adam doing leaving his wife, his main responsibility alone, which allowed the Serpent to get to her with a truth about the tree, even though it was a means of her and his disobedience to God's commandments?
Please realise that disobedience to God's commandments bring about dire consequences. So will the disobedience to the Oneness of God, whereby people say that God is 3 will bring heavenly dire consequences.
Finally, Islamic creation is different in place of creation, who was deceived and who the deceiver was. In Islam we do not blame Eve. We say that husband and wife were deceived at the same time, because of jealousy. Shaitan was the deceiver and God was well aware that it will happen, all along. They were created in heaven and then were made to dwell in the Garden of paradise. That was were they were whispered to in deceit by Shaitan.
After this disobedience, they were sent down to the earth, already created with all that needed to be created. They, upon arrival completed the equation for earth and also a place where they would procreate and therefore populate the earth. Hence earth is a place of trial for mankind, whereby one will be qualified by belief in God and personal deeds. Those who have good and sound faith/belief in One God, and do good deeds as much as they are capable, will receive Mercy of God and be rewarded with paradise after death.
Those who have terrible belief/faith, eg trinity is a bad faith/belief, and regardless of whatever good deeds they perform, unless God will it that they enter paradise, by making them change faith before death, they will receive justice of disbelief from God. They will be herded into Hellfire.
|Re: Did The Devil Really Lie To Eve? by olabowale(m): 3:53pm On Jul 20, 2008|
And by the way, did the biblical God ever forgave Adam and or Eve, versus the talking Serpent? Where was Satan, when all of this was happening? Was Satan the talking serpent? If God did not forgive Adam and or Eve, are they going to be barred from entering Paradise, since the Christians always say that their sin, eating the fruit is the Original sin, which we all inheritted? How are they going to be saved, away from Hellfire? How will all the other Prophets of God, who came after them will be saved?
|Re: Did The Devil Really Lie To Eve? by Lasinoh: 11:40am On Feb 21, 2012|
No. . .YOUR God lied to Eve.
For he planted the Serpent there to tempt her.
What a wicked God!
[size=20pt]Now God did not realize what had happened until Adam and Eve hid themselves [/size] and God Knew they are wiser now and no morons anymore.
Omnipotent turned omniIgnorant?
Keep confessing your stoopidity.
I am loving it o!
[size=20pt]In anger God spewed out punishment to them, and God even expressed the fear, that the man he newly created is almost becoming like him and that if he should eat of the fruit of life,[/size] then man would be equal to God in every way. [size=20pt]So God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden to prevent them from eating of the fruit of Life.[/size]
What 'NaMa' of God is Jesus. . .? Hallelujah!!!!
This kain 'God' o!!!! I nefa see YOUR kind o!!!! This kain 'God' o. . .blessed be YOUR holy name!!!!
|Re: Did The Devil Really Lie To Eve? by stepo707: 2:01pm On Feb 21, 2012|
He both told the truth and lied as well.
1. Ye shall be as gods
2. Your eyes shall be opened.(thats when they realised they were naked)
1.Ye shall not surely die.
|Re: Did The Devil Really Lie To Eve? by UyiIredia(m): 4:16pm On Feb 21, 2012|
Technilyy spekain it didn't.
|Re: Did The Devil Really Lie To Eve? by Kslib(m): 7:14pm On Feb 21, 2012|
The talking serpent was satan!Secondly,God didn't intend to create only Adam & Eve.If you think he did,ask urself why he gave both of them organs that can be used for reproduction.
|Re: Did The Devil Really Lie To Eve? by Kay17: 7:39pm On Feb 21, 2012|
The Bible referred to the Serpent as the most crafty animal in the garden, so that is conclusively not the Devil.
However the Serpent didn't deceive Adam and Eve, but encouraged them to disobey God. It simply reiterated the truth, eat the tree of knowledge and gain knowledge of Good and Evil, eat that of life and be Gods. But God out of jealousy barred them from eating the tree of Life.
God as a dictator didn't want rivals which would have been against his interest, likewise keeping his subjects in ignorance.
But of course the story is obviously not true, but reflects the mind set of those times where authority was seen as sacred and beneficial to society. But we wouldn't appreciate because of our democratic culture.
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