Ruq:
This is sarcasm shey ?

Real sarcasm. It's just hysterical. Manhunter, rationalmind, amanfrommars, and a few others like Logic boy, virick, are all Atheist Lords on nairaland.

wordsbase:

Real sarcasm. It's just hysterical. Manhunter, rationalmind, amanfrommars, and a few others like Logic boy, virick, are all Atheist Lords on nairaland.

Good morning bro, trust you had a good night's rest? And for the record, I was mostly agnostic (with panentheistic leanings) before I was saved by Christ from vanities.

You know the great book says, "there is a way that seemeth right to a man but the end thereof is destruction".

I was mostly lost until I found my way with Christ.

amanfrommars: What is justification?

Christ who was sinless became sin in order to reunite us with the Father.
Now as a sinner, when you trust and believe in Christ and his sacrifice, you are justified by the Father.

Justification is God's act of removing the guilt and penalty of sin and at the same time declaring a sinner blameless and righteous because of the sacrifice of his son, Christ Jesus.

amanfrommars: Are humans justified by faith or by works?

Humans are justified solely by faith in God and works just prove that you have been justified by faith.

amanfrommars: God's will or Man's will? Which is pre-eminent?
Short answer: God's will

rationalmind:

It will go a long way in clearing my unbelief

Okay, if that's all it will take but are you ready to make a conscious effort to accept Christ?

Ruq:
OP why are will given freewill ?

Would you rather you were made a robot?

Manhunter™:
Okay, if that's all it will take but are you ready to make a conscious effort to accept Christ?

yes, after my question has been answered

Manhunter™:
Would you rather you were made a robot?

But that was the plan init ? I mean without the story of eating the forbidden fruit.

rationalmind:

yes, after my question has been answered

How was the universe created?

To be honest, I don't know but that is not enough reason to dismiss God as a product of the human mind.

Knowing (or not knowing as the case may be) how the universe was created doesn't affect my belief in God. I'm content with what God has chosen to reveal.

Manhunter™:
How was the universe created?

To be honest, I don't know but that is not enough reason to dismiss God as a product of the human mind.

Knowing (or not knowing as the case may be) how the universe was created doesn't affect my belief in God. I'm content with what God has chosen to reveal.

Good

Ruq:

But that was the plan init ? I mean without the story of eating the forbidden fruit.

Adam had a choice to eat or refuse to eat. Choice connotes freewill.

Is god subject to reason or is reason subject to god?

@op.Is there going to be freewill in heaven?

wiegraf: Is god subject to reason or is reason subject to god?

To be honest, I don't understand this question. Care to elucidate?

Ranchhoddas: @op.Is there going to be freewill in heaven?

There will be freewill but we shall be unable to sin because having experienced the full effects of sin and the presence of God, one will not decide to turn back to sin.

If we can't sin then it is not freewill,Noah's descendants experienced the effects of sin(the flood)yet sin is still everywhere in the world.

Manhunter™:
To be honest, I don't understand this question. Care to elucidate?

Can god make 1+1 not equal 2.

You're doing well so far, I'm almost angry. When fully angry then I'd say you pass as a full blown xtian

wiegraf:

Can god make 1+1 not equal 2.

You're doing well so far, I'm almost angry. When fully angry then I'd say you pass as a full blown xtian

Are you saying it's typical of atheists, realists, evidentialists, or by whatever other name they may be called, to get angry when christians respond satisfactorily to their questions?

Ranchhoddas: If we can't sin then it is not freewill,Noah's descendants experienced the effects of sin(the flood)yet sin is still everywhere in the world.

We are yet to experience the full effects of sin.

wiegraf:

Can god make 1+1 not equal 2.

You're doing well so far, I'm almost angry. When fully angry then I'd say you pass as a full blown xtian

Eleyi gidi gan!
Do you believe anything is impossible for God?
1 + 1 = 2, because God has made it that way.
Do you know that God is the originator of mathematics?
You don't?
How then do you explain the fact that the human mind is naturally fluent in the language of mathematics, and how do you explain the eerie, seemingly unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics in describing the laws of nature?