Why not leave the courts to do their work while u face ur own business.

I just read the article and based on these facts presented by the writer, I am curious to know how their seats will not be declared vacant.

Those 37 Rep's members are plain foolish.

Meanwhile, the wise onse - Tambuwal and the Senators stayed behind and are using them to test the waters.

I am a learner

@Op

The judge ruled that there was no faction in PDP. With the situation on ground, there is a division in PDP. There is crisis going on in PDP. With that crisis, those legislators can move to another party. That is the loophole created in the Constitutional Amendment.

I was told to avoid any body who thinks success only by pulling others down! APC policy is too bad.Mark my word,this Association of past/political criminals (APC) won't survive beyound 2015! Its a mouthed party. My only annoyance is the slugish style of GEJ govt. Infact, an answer to prayers of the poor masses is on the way.

Ibo-Killer:
@Op

The judge ruled that there was no faction in PDP. With the situation on ground, there is a division in PDP. There is crisis going on in PDP. With that crisis, those legislators can move to another party. That is the loophole created in the Constitutional Amendment.

No, you can't read another interpretation to the court judgment. The court held that there was no faction, no division in PDP (there is only one PDP under the law). If you still want to believe like those foolish legislators that there is a division, then you need to prove it. I am not sure either you or those legislators can prove that there is a division in PDP.

Please brush up your english. You seem to be confused that faction and division mean different things.

gregg2: Those 37 Rep's members are plain foolish.

Meanwhile, the wise onse - Tambuwal and the Senators stayed behind and are using them to test the waters.

You got the point!

they will all lose their seats
smart onesamong them are speaking with serpent tongues
the dull ones will soon learn a bitter lesson in basic Nigerian constitutional law

lamentation thread for the e -pdp rats losers ! cry me a river . If Jonathan tries it, he will be impeached the next moment!

hardywaltz: Why not leave the courts to do their work while u face ur own business.

I am disappointed that you have the above to say. You seem to have your social order in the right place but I guess it is not so. I have written before now that the courts in Nigeria are ridiculously partisan as such hurt the growth of democracy in Nigeria. The issue about the defection of governors and members of NASS to another party was clarified by sections 177(C) and 68 (1)(g) of the 1999 Constitution respectively.

Ngene-Ukwenu:
lamentation thread for the e -pdp rats losers ! cry me a river . If Jonathan tries it, he will be impeached the next moment!

most people never seem to stop thinking with their anus... that you're not a fan of GEJ doesnt stop you from speaking the truth. what these 37 representathieves did was wrong....BTW to impeach a president na beans?

DerideGull:

I am disappointed that you have the above to say. You seem to have your social order in the right place but I guess it is not so. I have written before now that the courts in Nigeria are ridiculously partisan as such hurt the growth of democracy in Nigeria. The issue about the defection of governors and members of NASS to another party was clarified by sections 177(C) and 68 (1)(g) of the 1999 Constitution respectively.

Section 68 (1) (g) of the constitution was straightforward about the consequences of a defection by a legislator. However, section 177 (c) that pertains to the requirement for the person contesting election to the office of a governor only mentions party sponsorship as a requirement for standing for election. It didn't say that Governors can vacate their seat if they defect to another party when elected on the platform of a different party. That is the contentious part that the court would have to interpret because it seems logical that vacation of a seat should happen for a governor who defects since the governor could not have been deem elected without being sponsored by its party. Unfortunately, our funny constitution has restricted the removal of a governor to two occurrences - impeachment and incapacitation.

The judiciary should stand up and help our democracy get some sense of political ideology. Loyalty to a party is important. People should only consider joining a political party because their ideologies align to that of the party rather joining a party and then start to cause trouble with no consequence to them, eating their cake and having it in the process. The current scenario does not encourage internal peace resolution and constitutes a major unnecessary distraction to political parties. If any member of a party no longer feels comfortable with being in the party, they should feel free to leave but not take with them any position sponsored by the party to another party. That is fraud! On another note, people should also bear the brunt of making a bad choice in choosing to align with a wrong political party by losing their seats when they separate from the party. This would make for careful choice of political parties to join and save us some distractions in governance.

Political prostitution does not encourage ideological democracy. It rather encourages rascality!

I beg to also set a record straight here. If a court ruled in the morning of that day before the 37 rep members decided to still defect, that means their defection wasn't what the court held and therefore, it was illegal. The court made itself clear enough even according to the Speaker that there was a ruling that morning. That ruling by implication only applies to anyone who defected before the ruling since it says ALL STATUS QUO should be maintain pending further hearing.

hardywaltz: Why not leave the courts to do their work while u face ur own business.

Ur statement has clearly stated the problem with Nigeria. How can u sleep well with this kind of rubbish, and arrogance from elected legistors. Things will keep spoiling and u will be minding ur business...

Some people are very very funny. Where in the world do you need a court of law to declare that there is a faction in a political party? Where? APC does not need a court judgement. They have some much evidence to prove the existence of a faction. 1, It is on record by the media that Seven Governors walked out of a national convention of the party to form a new block citing rigging of the election process as their main reason. 2, It is on record that President Jonathan had several meetings with the said group several times in Aso Rock to resolve the issue. 3, the fact that the matter was taken to court to determine who the authentic chairman was between Tukur and Baraje is another valid pointer.

They knew it was illegal to defect after the court judgment that there was no division in PDP.
However, they were compelled to still go ahead and defect because the plan is to impeach the President before any court case against them would be concluded.

Those masterminding the scheme did not put into consideration that they may not be able impeach the President without any valid reason. The reasons they were banking on were Sanusi's alleged missing $50 billion and Obasanjo's accusations on the President.

As providence would have it, the President swiftly moved to nullify all their accusations leaving those that have already defected at the mercy of the court.

2014 will indeed be an interesting year!

Obiagu1: They knew it was illegal to defect after the court judgment that there was no division in PDP.
However, they were compelled to still go ahead and defect because the plan is to impeach the President before the any court case against them would be concluded.

Those masterminding the scheme did not put into consideration that they may not be able impeach the President without any valid reason. The reasons they were banking on were Sanusi's alleged missing $50 billion and Obasanjo's accusations on the President.

As providence would have it, the President swiftly moved to nullify all their accusations leaving those that have already defected at the mercy of the court.

2014 will indeed be an interesting year!

Another Ibo logic........

You think these people who have the money to buy the best lawyers out there don't know what they are doing? They've thought out their options and found they aren't doing anything wrong before they moved to APC. Keep deceiving yourself Ibo man.

Ibo-Killer:



Another Ibo logic........

You think these people who have the money to buy the best lawyers out there don't know what they are doing? They've thought out their options and found they aren't doing anything wrong before they moved to APC. Keep deceiving yourself Ibo man.

I think u need a ban, what called for the tribal sentiment? I may report u to the mod if u don't behave.

DerideGull:

I am disappointed that you have the above to say. You seem to have your social order in the right place but I guess it is not so. I have written before now that the courts in Nigeria are ridiculously partisan as such hurt the growth of democracy in Nigeria. The issue about the defection of governors and members of NASS to another party was clarified by sections 177(C) and 68 (1)(g) of the 1999 Constitution respectively.

My dear I think u and most other guys here are confused. The ruling of the court is that Turkur is the authentic PDP leader and faction, the court @ no time declared the other faction illegal. The courts respect the right to free association (even inside an association) as enshrined in chapter 4 of the 99 constitution as amended. The court judgment can easily be interpreted to mean that even if G7 (right to freedom of association) wanted ur own faction, Bamanga Turkur remained the National Leader of the party.
The section of the constitution that deals with NA or SA members losing their seat is ambiguous (unless a faction exist in the party) that is why PDP has been using it to collect other party members without them losing their seats.
However only the Speaker or Senate President can declare a members seat vacant but any court can easily squach it.
Like I said before leave the courts to do their work while u guyz face ur own business.
Shekina

PS: 2 of the guyz that defected from Rivers State are Lawyers as such know the legal implication of jumping ships. I doubt if the writer is one.

Ngene-Ukwenu:
lamentation thread for the e -pdp rats losers ! cry me a river . If Jonathan tries it, he will be impeached the next moment!

Can you please explain to the house the steps involved in impeaching a president?

Some people just comment out of ignorance.

their seats are going to be declared vacant in 2014.

[size=13pt]who is PDP national secretary? [/size]

Like say pdp dey folo constitution, those legislators recognise oyinlola as their sec according to court ruling but pdp doesn't

Hmmmm