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So many people have been misunderstanding and misinterpreting the immaculate conception. Due to thus fact, I'm writing this to prove the authenticity of the immaculate conception. In doing this, I will use God's promise to explain this.
Since we all know that, King David is the man after God's heart and God made a promise to him. CHRONICLE 17:11-14
11 And it shall come to pass, when thy
days be expired that thou must go to be
with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed
after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I
will establish his kingdom.
12 He shall build me an house, and I will
stablish his throne for ever.
13 I will be his father, and he shall be my
son: and I will not take my mercy away
from him, as I took it from him that was
before thee:
14 But I will settle him in mine house and in
my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall
be established for evermore.

Accepting the above bible passage. therefor, Jesus should come from the lineage of David. Now to trace Jesus lineage back to David, we'll have to look at it from two point of views.
1) There is sexual relationship between Joseph and Mary.
2) There is no sexual relationship between Joseph and Mary.

FROM THE 1st VIEW
If there is any form of sexual relationship between Joseph and Mary. Therefore Jesus lineage is from Joseph. Now let's trace Joseph lineage to David. Joseph lineage was recorded in MATHEW 1:1-16
King James Version (KJV)
The book of the generation of Jesus
Christ, the son of David, the son of
Abraham.
2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat
Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his
brethren;
3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of
Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and
Esrom begat Aram;
4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and
Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson
begat Salmon;
5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and
Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat
Jesse;
6 And Jesse begat David the king; and
David the king begat Solomon of her that
had been the wife of Urias;
7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and
Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;
8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat
begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias;
9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham
begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and
Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat
Josias;
11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his
brethren, about the time they were carried
away to Babylon:
12 And after they were brought to Babylon,
Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel
begat Zorobabel;
13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud
begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;
14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat
Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;
15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar
begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;
16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of
Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is
called Christ.

In Matthew's record, there was an event in verse 11 which is also recorded in JERIMIAH 22:24-30.
24 As I live, saith the LORD, though Coniah
the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah were
the signet upon my right hand, yet would I
pluck thee thence;
25 And I will give thee into the hand of
them that seek thy life, and into the hand of
them whose face thou fearest, even into the
hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon,
and into the hand of the Chaldeans.
26 And I will cast thee out, and thy mother
that bare thee, into another country, where
ye were not born; and there shall ye die.
27 But to the land whereunto they desire to
return, thither shall they not return.
28 Is this man Coniah a despised broken
idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure?
wherefore are they cast out, he and his
seed, and are cast into a land which they
know not?
29 O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of
the LORD.
30 Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man
childless, a man that shall not prosper in
his days: for no man of his seed shall
prosper, sitting upon the throne of David,
and ruling any more in Judah.

Therefore, if Jesus as king who will sit on the throne of David is Joseph's son He will not be king and if Jesus will sit on throne of David. Then, the bible prophecies will be a big lie. Thus, this account shows that Joseph is not the biological father of Jesus but the stepfather.

2nd VIEW

if there is no sexual relationship between Joseph and Mary, therefore, Jesus lineage is from Mary. Now let's trace Mary's lineage to David.
Mary's father is Joakim( also called Eliakim or Heliakim by d Jews where Eli and Heli is interchanged for God). Also mary is also called the daughter of Heli by the Jews. Since Heli is the father of Mary,then, the lineage of Mary is recorded in LUKE 3:23-38
23 And Jesus himself began to be about
thirty years of age, being (as was
supposed) the son of Joseph, which was
the son of Heli,
24 Which was the son of Matthat, which
was the son of Levi, which was the son of
Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which
was the son of Joseph,
25 Which was the son of Mattathias, which
was the son of Amos, which was the son of
Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was
the son of Nagge,
26 Which was the son of Maath, which was
the son of Mattathias, which was the son of
Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which
was the son of Juda,
27 Which was the son of Joanna, which was
the son of Rhesa, which was the son of
Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel,
which was the son of Neri,
28 Which was the son of Melchi, which was
the son of Addi, which was the son of
Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam,
which was the son of Er,
29 Which was the son of Jose, which was
the son of Eliezer, which was the son of
Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which
was the son of Levi,
30 Which was the son of Simeon, which was
the son of Juda, which was the son of
Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which
was the son of Eliakim,
31 Which was the son of Melea, which was
the son of Menan, which was the son of
Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan,
which was the son of David,
32 Which was the son of Jesse, which was
the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz,
which was the son of Salmon, which was
the son of Naasson,
33 Which was the son of Aminadab, which
was the son of Aram, which was the son of
Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which
was the son of Juda,
34 Which was the son of Jacob, which was
the son of Isaac, which was the son of
Abraham, which was the son of Thara,
which was the son of Nachor,
35 Which was the son of Saruch, which was
the son of Ragau, which was the son of
Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which
was the son of Sala,
36 Which was the son of Cainan, which was
the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of
Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was
the son of Lamech,
37 Which was the son of Mathusala, which
was the son of Enoch, which was the son of
Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which
was the son of Cainan,
38 Which was the son of Enos, which was
the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam,
which was the son of God.

I know people will say,it is written, Joseph son of Heli. But the question is can Joseph have two fathers,Jacob and Heli? NO. therfore,he is the son in-law of Heli.

In conclusion, Jesus lineage is from Mary and the Immaculate conception is real.

thank u.

This dilemma was solved by the assertion that whereas Matthew’s genealogy of Jesus was traced through Joseph’s line, Luke’s genealogy of Jesus was through Mary’s lineage. In this way, Jesus could now be from the seed of David after the flesh through Luke’s genealogy. Likewise, establishing Mary's lineage to King David, Luke's genealogy ostensibly solves the problem of what to do with Romans 1:3 (Paul), and enables the Church to claim a physical link between Jesus and King David.

You just go copy and paste trash from all these catholic websites. tell us something new abeg.

MEILYN: You just go copy and paste trash from all these catholic websites. tell us something new abeg.

lol
look at you who believe dat the immaculate conception is an Immaculate deception in the thread u created. I gat no comment for you.

Why do I see people mistake the Virgin birth for immaculate conception? Both are not thesame and this thread and that of Meilyn were actually talking about virgin birth not immaculate conception

Sal C: Why do I see people mistake the Virgin birth for immaculate conception? Both are not thesame and this thread and that of Meilyn were actually talking about virgin birth not immaculate conception

I know. They are different things entirely.

MEILYN: I know. They are different things entirely.

Ok sire!

Sal C: Why do I see people mistake the Virgin birth for immaculate conception? Both are not thesame and this thread and that of Meilyn were actually talking about virgin birth not immaculate conception

thank you Sal c,now I know better.
Anyway, I just want to make people like Meilyn get more insights to the fact that,Mary conceived Christ without any form of sexual relationship between Her and Joseph.

nnatom:

thank you Sal c,now I know better.
Anyway, I just want to make people like Meilyn get more insights to the fact that,Mary conceived Christ without any form of sexual relationship between Her and Joseph.

You're always welcome bro

David and Mary lineage are from King David. .

nnatom:

thank you Sal c,now I know better.
Anyway, I just want to make people like Meilyn get more insights to the fact that,Mary conceived Christ without any form of sexual relationship between Her and Joseph.

i hear.