I don't understand why a sovereign nation would condone another nation crossing into her territory to kill women and children all in the name of a war against a noun!

America wants Pakistan to kill its own people and that's just not going to happen. Anyway the US should becareful here cos Pakistanis have nuclear weapons o. Fire for fire if need be.

TopBanana:

America wants Pakistan to kill its own people and that's just not going to happen. Anyway the US should becareful here because Pakistanis have nuclear weapons o. Fire for fire if need be.

I think the age of the nuclear bomb is over.

Pakistan cannot match the nuclear arsenal of the US, however, this sends a strong message to the toddlers in charge of the US foreign policy that not all problems can/should be resolved using military might alone.

Would the US go to war with Pakistan because the Pakistanis are not killing the Taliban as efficiently (with a sizeable number of "collateral" victims) as the Americans would love it? I don't think so.

Washington must learn the art of diplomacy, there is no other solution!

RichyBlacK:

I don't understand why a sovereign nation would condone another nation crossing into her territory to kill women and children all in the name of a war against a noun!

so the primary goal of these military incursions are to kill women and children??  the Taliban is staging attacks from the Pakistani side of the border. even the Pakistani government admits it's struggling to contain the Taliban. northwest Pakistan is an autonomous tribal region in which Pakistan has never been able to exert it's sovereignty. i find it strange u weren't screaming sovereignty when Russia entered deep into Georgian territory. hypocrite

Washington must learn the art of diplomacy, there is no other solution!

why don't u ask pakistan how nice it's peace-deal/cease fire with the taliban went. diplomacy in that region? laughable

bawomolo:

i find it strange u weren't screaming sovereignty when Russia entered deep into Georgian territory. hypocrite

Did you scream when the US invaded Iraq? Bloody hypocrite!

Russia did not violate Georgia's sovereignty; it was Georgia that violated at least two ceasefires!


"August 7 - President Mikheil Saakashvili ordered Georgian troops to cease fire.[9][10]
According to Georgian military, despite the declared ceasefire, fighting intensified.[11][12] Hours after the declaration of the ceasefire, in a televised address, Mikheil Saakashvili vowed to restore Tbilisi's control by force over what he called the "criminal regime" in South Ossetia and Abkhazia and reinforce order.[12]

August 8 - During the night and early morning, Georgia launched a military offensive to surround and capture the capital of separatist Republic of South Ossetia, Tskhinvali[13] thus breaking the terms of the 1992 ceasefire and crossing into the security zone established therein[14]. According to Russian military, some Russian peacekeepers have been killed during this attack[15]. The heavy shelling, which included Georgian rockets being fired into South Ossetia[16] left parts of the capital city in ruins, causing a humanitarian crisis." -- Wikipedia

Though you sound like a Western puppet, but try to reason a bit with the brain God gave you but forgot to give George W. Bush.

Did you scream when the US invaded Iraq? Bloody hypocrite!

i wasn't in support of the iraqi invasion, so what's your point. u are just pulling straws here tryna to save face. now lets try to analyze your statements


"August 7 - President Mikheil Saakashvili ordered Georgian troops to cease fire.[9][10]
According to Georgian military, despite the declared ceasefire, fighting intensified.[11][12] Hours after the declaration of the ceasefire, in a televised address, Mikheil Saakashvili vowed to restore Tbilisi's control by force over what he called the "criminal regime" in South Ossetia and Abkhazia and reinforce order.[12]

where in this statement, does it say the georgian army fired the first bullets??

August 8 - During the night and early morning, Georgia launched a military offensive to surround and capture the capital of separatist Republic of South Ossetia, Tskhinvali[13] thus breaking the terms of the 1992 ceasefire and crossing into the security zone established therein[14]. According to Russian military, some Russian peacekeepers have been killed during this attack[15]. The heavy shelling, which included Georgian rockets being fired into South Ossetia[16] left parts of the capital city in ruins, causing a humanitarian crisis." -- Wikipedia

this came on august 8 after south ossetian rebels had pounded georgian border villages with artillery fire about two days earlier. you are one hell of a character.

bawomolo:

i wasn't in support of the iraqi invasion, so what's your point. u are just pulling straws here trying to to save face. now lets try to analyze your statements

Mabad! Thought you were a neocon - sounded like one though. Okay, I've got to stop judging books by their covers! Sorry.

bawomolo:


"August 7 - President Mikheil Saakashvili ordered Georgian troops to cease fire.[9][10]
According to Georgian military, despite the declared ceasefire, fighting intensified.[11][12] Hours after the declaration of the ceasefire, in a televised address, Mikheil Saakashvili vowed to restore Tbilisi's control by force over what he called the "criminal regime" in South Ossetia and Abkhazia and reinforce order.[12]

where in this statement, does it say the georgian army fired the first bullets??

August 8 - During the night and early morning, Georgia launched a military offensive to surround and capture the capital of separatist Republic of South Ossetia, Tskhinvali[13] thus breaking the terms of the 1992 ceasefire and crossing into the security zone established therein[14]. According to Russian military, some Russian peacekeepers have been killed during this attack[15]. The heavy shelling, which included Georgian rockets being fired into South Ossetia[16] left parts of the capital city in ruins, causing a humanitarian crisis." -- Wikipedia

this came on august 8 after south ossetian rebels had pounded georgian border villages with artillery fire about two days earlier.  you are one hell of a character. 

Not true! You're parroting Georgia's claim:

"Georgia claimed that South Ossetian separatists[65] had shelled Georgian villages in violation of a ceasefire. South Ossetia denied provoking the conflict." -- W

This claim only came after Georgia saw the need to push the blame to South Ossetia. It's easy to see its a fabrication because Saakashvili wanted to restore Georgia's control over South Ossetia and believed that that was enough reason to launch an attack. He though he did not need any other excuse, until his foolish actions backfired.

its a fair order

bawomolo:

i find it strange u weren't screaming sovereignty when Russia entered deep into Georgian territory. hypocrite

its Richymugu so dont be surprised. One rule for the US/Israel and another for everyone else.

This claim only came after Georgia saw the need to push the blame to South Ossetia. It's easy to see its a fabrication because Saakashvili wanted to restore Georgia's control over South Ossetia and believed that that was enough reason to launch an attack

it's obvious to me u see anything that comes from an ally of the west as a fabrication or propaganda. i guess Georgia should have just sat back and watch Russia arm separatist groups.

davidylan:

its Richymugu so don't be surprised. One rule for the US/Israel and another for everyone else.

the double-standard is pretty obvious

davidylan:

its Richymugu so don't be surprised. One rule for the US/Israel and another for everyone else.

davidymugu how far?

US and Israel have the worst foreign policies in modern history. While US foreign policy is run by toddlers who support Israel, Israel's foreign policy is run by toddlers who think they are also running US foreign policy.

bawomolo:

it's obvious to me u see anything that comes from an ally of the west as a fabrication or propaganda.  i guess Georgia should have just sat back and watch Russia arm separatist groups.

The West, especially America, is prone to fabrications and lies:

1. Iraq's WMD was a big fat lie!
2. Denying support for Alqaeda the Mujahedin, another lie!
3. Denying support for Apartheid - both in South Africa and now Israel, another lie!
4. Denying massive support for Saddam Hussein, another lie!
5. Denying numerous attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro, another lie!
The list of lies is too long!

Yep, they use CNN, Fox, etc. to propagate their lies.

If you kill my brother and then run back to your house, why should I not follow you to your house to kill you if your family or neighbours will not bring you to justice?

If Pakistan doesn't want raids on it's territory it should stop attacks being launched from it's territory. Period.

Bastage:

If you kill my brother and then run back to your house, why should I not follow you to your house to kill you if your family or neighbours will not bring you to justice?

If Pakistan doesn't want raids on it's territory it should stop attacks being launched from it's territory. Period.

Agreed, but I believe the general in this case is trying to be on the good side of his people, to secure his future. We are speaking of pakistan where many of the leaders who oppose these millitants have been attacked in one way or another by them.