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The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by BigB11(op): 2:43pm On Oct 01, 2008
Sen John McCain and his campaign team have left with no other choice but to walk around with this mentality:

It is very prudent for all to pay additional attention to Sarah Palin on Thursday during the VP debate; something tells me that McCain's Camp might try to cheat by planting a wireless magnetic induction hearing device into Sarah Palin ears to assist her with some of the questions.

Please, forward this to everybody.

These folks (McCain's Camp) are extremely desperate and very ready to do anything and everything to force their way into the whitehouse.

I hope this message gets to them (America is watching)
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by Sisikill: 2:52pm On Oct 01, 2008
Why go through all that trouble when they can just claim all the questions she answers incorrectly (i.e contradicting McCain's) were "Gotcha Questions"?
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by omoge(f): 3:29pm On Oct 01, 2008
is it really possible to do something like thathuh huh shocked
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by BigB11(op): 3:40pm On Oct 01, 2008
It is absolutely possible when we are dealing with the combo of confusion, desperation and hopelessness!
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by BigB11(op): 3:48pm On Oct 01, 2008
For more info on being wired, check out this link.

http://bushwired..com/2004/10/bulge-links-theories.html
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by SeanT21(f): 3:56pm On Oct 01, 2008
omoge:
is it really possible to do something like thathuh huh shocked
Its not impossible to do that. Some says that Bush was wired against Kerry in the debates also.
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by NegroNtns(m): 5:21pm On Oct 01, 2008
It has been proven time and again that exams and tests are not the best way of determining intelligence. Test is measuring understanding of lectures and instructions, it is not measuring knowledge or awareness. Hence, a lot of people fail exams and sometimes get frustrated and drop out of studies.
Steve Jobs (Apple), Bill Gates (Microsoft), Karl Rove (Republican strategist).

I worked with engineering graduates with honors from Georgia Tech, MIT, UCLA, , and some of them have no clue how to draft a user or even system requirements for process mechanization.


Answering debate questions correctly is no measure of competence or ability to make the correct judgement. When faced with a situation demanding practical and prudent response, how much effect or influence does a correct response in a debate have to bear?

Debates are taken in conjunction with other accomplishments to judge a candidate's exposure, awareness, effectiveness, influence, leadership, tact, boldness and flexibility.

So when you take all these together, you are looking at past and current to judge how a candidate will make decisions in future.


If you look at Biden's past you will see that he is not a good leader. He is skilled and he is exposed on international issues but what else beside that has he accomplished?

If you look at Palin, what she lacks in exposure on the economic and international relations she more than makes up for in effectiveness and accountability.

Asking people to circulate the word about the possibility of her wearing a concealed listening device is not the best way to choose a VP. Its not about passing or failing the exam alone, its that and also a review of the classwork and the assignments and the mindset of the student.

People wonder if she will be a good President, considering how much longer McCain has to live. Has anyone thought of the burden a Biden Presidency could be if Obama, God forbid , was assassinated?

Biden had ran for Presidency twice and each time gave up on the first sign of problem. He publicly declared that someone else was better and more qualified than himself as VP.

In 2004, with all his intelligence and far reaching thoughtfullness and broad mindedness, Kerry still lost the election to a less intelligent and a narrow minded incumbent.

Intelligence should be far ahead of competition, globally exposed and well travelled candidate should not be struggling to break the tie with a befuddled mind whose knowledge, awareness and exposure is limited to the borderlines of Alaska.

What is Biden's explanation for why in a 1-1 poll with Palin, he is less favored?
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by darfur(m): 7:08pm On Oct 01, 2008
Negro_Ntns:
Answering debate questions correctly is no measure of competence or ability to make the correct judgement. When faced with a situation demanding practical and prudent response, how much effect or influence does a correct response in a debate have to bear?
i agree


Negro_Ntns:
So when you take all these together, you are looking at past and current to judge how a candidate will make decisions in future.
ok

If you look at Biden's past you will see that he is not a good leader. He is skilled and he is exposed on international issues but what else beside that has he accomplished?
really? hmmn

If you look at Palin, what she lacks in exposure on the economic and international relations she more than makes up for in effectiveness and accountability.
ahaaaaaa!!!!!! cheesy there they go again grin now u guys have accepted she lacks exposure. . . hmmmn . . we are making progress grin how do you mean she is effective and accountable? that her husband refused to answer to the charges that are against him in alaska? or that she is being dodgy on the investigation against her abuse of power in the plan to fire her ex brother-in-law, and how effective is she in dealing with america's current crisi for instance, when after all these weeks she is yet to understand what is going on?

hey dude, why is ur name nuts? perhaps you are nuts? b/c even K and T have kind of shied away from this woman until the dust of her overwhelming ignorance settles. grin

listen, the republicans may well win this election but that would be disastrous. know why? exactly what happened in 2004. kerry is more intelligent than bush. as u said. and bush won. good. and the result . . . . . . .over 2,000 more lives lost in iraq (kerry wanted to end the war) more billions of dollars spent in iraq, economy . . . lipsrsealed etc . .etc . .etc

if McCain wins, the republicans may rule another 8-12yrs b/c old john will get re-elected and by 8yrs little sarah will become more matured and an incumbent republican is not easy to defeat


meanwhile, let her keep entertaining us grin she is an embodiment of republican shamelessness
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by dayokanu(m): 8:13pm On Oct 01, 2008
Palin is sensational she is unlike Biden who is dour. SHe represents something new that is her only advantage. But all those are skin deep right now those attributes wont be needed for a country spiralling downwards at an alarming rate

China is waiting in the ranks to take over the new Super power role and would be praying seriously McPalin wins.

If McPalin should win Then i have to start Chinese classes and relocate to Shanghai. The new Biz headquarter of the world as against the former wall street
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by Ibime(m): 8:40pm On Oct 01, 2008
The fact is that Palin does not have a clear understanding of the issues. It does not flow naturally from her and she only spews talking points that she has crammed, often confusing one issue with the other as crammers often do,
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by BigB11(op): 8:57pm On Oct 01, 2008
The fact is that Palin does not have a clear understanding of the issues. It does not flow naturally from her and she only spews talking points that she has crammed, often confusing one issue with the other as crammers often do
This is absolutely accurate!

So far, the best analyst to analyze Sarah Palin.
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by BigB11(op): 9:01pm On Oct 01, 2008
It's like asking someone (a bus driver) to study for a bar examination over the weekend.

It is absolutely inevitable for this individual not to mix things up during the exam.
I think this is what is mostly going on with Sarah Palin.

And I'm very happy!
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by BigB11(op): 9:02pm On Oct 01, 2008
If she wears are hair down tomorrow, it means something is up (she is wired).

America is watching!
and
I'm watching too from Ajegunle!
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by NegroNtns(m): 3:49am On Oct 02, 2008
lol,


hey dude, why is ur name nuts? perhaps you are nuts? b/c even K and T have kind of shied away from this woman until the dust of her overwhelming ignorance settles.
Its actually Nations, but its okay if thats the best you can make of it _ nuts it is! I dont care if Im the only one standing for what I believe in, I dont need approval. I validate others, no one validates me. I dont give a hoot about McCain, Obama, Palin, Biden, none of them put a dinner on my table. However, there are issues that each candidate is pushing and I refuse to support issues that will make me go hungry. You are talking to a smart consumer. I ask questions that matter to the issue. Im not a default voter.

listen, the republicans may well win this election but that would be disastrous. know why? exactly what happened in 2004. kerry is more intelligent than bush. as u said. and bush won. good. and the result . . . . . . .over 2,000 more lives lost in iraq (
kerry wanted to end the war
) more billions of dollars spent in iraq, economy . . . etc . .etc . .etc
Kerry is not an effective leader either. Its easy in hindsight to give credit that he would have ended the war and the country would have come out better but how would he implement such a plan successfully when he could not even manage campaign spins thrown at him by Rove?

Kerry would take position A and say thats what he believes in. Rove would come out behind him and say position A is flawed because of PQR and S. Kerry would show up and say he is no longer for position A, he is now supporting position D. Then they will send Ralph Reed to say position D lacks faith based values. Then Kerry would turn around and say he is going back to position A. Back and forth they made a fool of him. Why you think they labelled him flip-flopper? First he is for A, then he flipped to D and then when it was no longer popular to support D, he flopped back to A. How is such a person to be an effective Commander in Chief?? Much less end a war!


if McCain wins, the republicans may rule another 8-12yrs b/c old john will get re-elected and by 8yrs little sarah will become more matured and an incumbent republican is not easy to defeat
He won't finish the second term. He will receive visitors soon after his second inauguration.

meanwhile, let her keep entertaining us she is an embodiment of republican shamelessness
Thats all it is, short term entertainment and drama! If Republicans were looking for an intelligent VP she wont have been the choice.
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by darfur(m): 4:55pm On Oct 02, 2008
Negro_Ntns:
lol,
Its actually Nations, but its okay if thats the best you can make of it _ nuts it is! I don't care if I'm the only one standing for what I believe in, I don't need approval. I validate others, no one validates me. I don't give a hoot about McCain, Obama, Palin, Biden, none of them put a dinner on my table. However, there are issues that each candidate is pushing and I refuse to support issues that will make me go hungry. You are talking to a smart consumer. I ask questions that matter to the issue. I'm not a default voter.
good thinking

Kerry is not an effective leader either. Its easy in hindsight to give credit that he would have ended the war and the country would have come out better but how would he implement such a plan successfully when he could not even manage campaign spins thrown at him by Rove?
u may disagree, but being the president of the united states is one of the easiest jobs in the US. if u are a campaign manager, ur campaign flops once it is mismanaged and it affects u personally and immediately. same for business executives/ CEOs, same for students preparing for exams, same for soldiers in battle. but if a president flops, all he needs is good followership in congress to block impeachment and nothing happens to him. contrary to general belief, being president of the US is a demanding but relatively easy job. make mistakes, others suffer. u may disagree. that's fine. but john kerry would have made a better president than bush.
Kerry would take position A and say thats what he believes in. Rove would come out behind him and say position A is flawed because of PQR and S. Kerry would show up and say he is no longer for position A, he is now supporting position D. Then they will send Ralph Reed to say position D lacks faith based values. Then Kerry would turn around and say he is going back to position A. Back and forth they made a fool of him. Why you think they labelled him flip-flopper? First he is for A, then he flipped to D and then when it was no longer popular to support D, he flopped back to A. How is such a person to be an effective Commander in Chief?? Much less end a war!
kerry's campaign was not good enough. the republicans run very smart campaigns. even now, their campaign is better than obama's own.

He won't finish the second term. He will receive visitors soon after his second inauguration.
i wonder which visitors u are talking about. and i hope u are not one of those who are thinking of old john's death. if old john wins, he would serve out his term(s) . reagan was president till he was 78. and he did well.
Thats all it is, short term entertainment and drama! If Republicans were looking for an intelligent VP she wont have been the choice.
ahaa, part of the smart campaign i was talking about. biden would be a fool to under-estimate this woman today. as far as i'm concerned, biden is under more pressure than she is at this moment.
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by NegroNtns(m): 10:41pm On Oct 02, 2008
i wonder which visitors u are talking about. and i hope u are not one of those who are thinking of old john's death or getting a terminal illness.
No, I am not one of those. cool


reagan was president till he was 78. and he did well.
Are you saying how come he finished his two terms with no visitors?

Look, if the political scene was similar to what it is now and his VP at the time (George H. Bush) was as popular and an asset to the GOP future as Palin is now to the future, trust me, Reagan would not have completed his second term. But you see, Reagan's VP - Bush, had a role that did not include the future. His role was to strategize and implement a plan that will infilterate KGB and destroy USSR.

G.H Bush was head of CIA when Reagan came in office. The global dynamics at the time was reason why Bush was chosen for the VP spot, beside the fact that he was well accomplished professionally. The idea of penetrating eastward from Berlin and pushing into Soviet territory to destabilize the USSR was born by Nixon. Carter did not believe in Nation building, he preferred to contain them rather than to implode them from within. Carter was disgraced out of office by GOP. They manipulated the Iran hostage release to a schedule date past Reagan's Presidential inauguration, so that instead of giving the credit of the negotiations and release to the President that worked for it _Carter_, they hijacked the progress once it became known that Reagan will succeed Carter and made it appear that Reagan was the hero of the occassion.

West and East Germany unified under Reagan. The Soviets, in order to counter the American incursion and limit their influence around the globe sought to manipulate global energy supply from the East and this was what led to their failed ambition in Afghanistan.

Who bankrolled the failure? America. . . . and who was their battlefield Commander? Bin Laden.

I don't want to go too far into all of that but need to circle back to how GOP see the future and why their ideology is totally different from Democrats'.

Democrats see the future as a need to integrate all social values so that there is no borderline of discrimination between varying natures and entities. They seek equality in social status. Their focus is domestic and their motto is live and let live.

Democrats treat their successive administrations as unique and in independent.

Republicans see the future as a need to expand more influence and dominance so that American power is total and absolute. They seek fairness in all endeavors and believe that in the law of survival, the strongest (smartest) wins. Their focus is global and their motto is live and let die.

Republicans treat their successive administrations as a continuity of a vision and ideology towards their end goal of dominating the globe.
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McCain, even though he is a multi-generation Republican. is viewed with suspicion and they are afraid that he went too many times against Bush that when he becomes President he might refuse to adopt a continuum of the agenda that Bush will be leaving behind _ global domination!

Sarah Palin has all the ingredients and her record of accomplishments qualifies her for that movement into the future -

She is young and therefore has many more years of involvement and engagement

She is an outsider, meaning her mind is blank; no exposure to global politics, no Washington experience, no intelligence duties, she will be a dedicated cadet.

She is groomable and can be easily led. Unlike any of the other more suitable choices for the VP spot, Palin is the most qualified for the GOP agenda, although maybe not for the Vice Presidential duties.

Assuming McCain wins two terms, She will serve 8yrs - first full term with John and once John's visitors have come and gone and he soon after that departs the seat, she will assume the mantle and serve out the second term. By which time she has gained enormous credibility in her role and service, as well as global exposure and experience.

Assuming she wins the election of 2016. she has potential for another 8yrs of her own full fledged Presidency. A total of 16yrs in which GOP, through Palin has put its foothold on every doorstep around the world, be it in their economics, social values, political leadership, academic curriculum or religious faith.

As I said long ago, Palin is not John's choice. She was put on him, willingly or non willingly. If he had objected, the visitation with him would have occurred and we would not now be worrying about John McCain in the general election.

Also, GOP knew that Palin is a blank mind, thats why she was chosen for the job. If their objective was in an intelligent VP, they would have picked Romney, Huckabee or even Mayor Bloomberg of NY.

So you all need to chill and stop demanding for her to exhibit intelligence. You will be dissapointed and your high blood pressure will go up from the resulting frustration.
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by omoge(f): 12:28am On Oct 03, 2008
dream dream dream dream kiss
Re: The Republicans And Fraud (important Info) by BigB11(op): 2:45pm On Oct 06, 2008
Pass it on!

[b]The story is all over Progressive Talk Radio today about the MCain campaign sending absentee ballot applications to registered democrats or people that have donated to Obama's camapign. 

These ballots are dilberately misleading and have postage paid return addresses that are for an election clerk that is outside of your city or town.   What this will end up doing is either having your vote not counted, or if you return one of these, they will cite you for election fraud, saying that you already voted absentee.

These ballots are only being sent out in 'purple states' and this is a big deal,  This is called voter caging, and is a huge problem.
The McCain campaign is stealing this election as we speak.

Please get this information out to as many people as you can ,and tell anyone you know who has received one of these ballots that they need to contact their city election clerk or the supervisor of elections immediately.  Also call the local media and let them know what is going on.   
The main stream media is never going to cover this so we have to depend on our ground campaign to get the word out to our voters[/b]
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