Frenchkiss564: the bolded is right but the igbo is not the ndi igbo of southwest. They are called ugbo people, they are the same people we call the ilaje people in onda state today. Ugbo kingdom is in ondo state, ife is owned by these people that is why ife is called ife ooyelugbo

Ife Ooyelagbo means survivors of Ife after the deluge(flood). Some historians believe it means Ife after the flood in Noah's days.

Brymo: house of love, ile ife

Ile Ife does not mean house of love.lol.

From archeology, anthropology and ethnology of the Art and Culture of Ife, the origins have been traced to Around 350 BC and that date is centuries before Odùduwà, the son of the last Ogiso (one of the Sky Kings dynasty of Benin) ran away from Benin kingdom for the fear of his life as the only son of his father the king. His Edo name was Izoduwa meaning "I have chosen the path of prosperity", corrupted by the Yoruba's as Odùduwà). He later sent Oranyan (also known as Oranmiyan), one of his sons by the Yoruba princess Okanbi to Benin Kingdom around 1170 AD.
Oranmiyan later became the first Alafin of Oyo.

From the above chronological analysis, you can see that Odùduwà is not the father of the Yorubas, because the cradle of Yoruba civilization is Ife and not Benin. And Ife Art history is centuries older than when Odùduwà arrived from Benin Kingdom in the 10th century.

[size=14pt]"The art of Ife and Benin is so important because one gives birth to the other. The Ife art was the most ancient in the forest region of Nigeria, simply because the Ife civilisation goes as far back as 300 - 500 BC. Therefore, it had developed a lot of artefacts, which marks the history of Ife.

Ife later gave birth not only to Benin, but also to the art of Igbo, the Onitsha art, even going as far as to the hinterland of the Igbo, Igbo Ukwu."
~ Dr. Omotoso Eluyemi, director of National Museums and Monuments.[/size]

Odùduwà did not descend from any Sky on a ladder of chain. What Odùduwà said was he was a descendant of the Ogisos, the Sky Kings dynasty of Benin. But oral mythology now turned it into descending from the sky (heaven).

Even if Odùduwà was a fugitive from Mecca, then he must have come after Abū al-Qāsim Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh ibn ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib ibn Hāshim (Arabic: ابو القاسم محمد ابن عبد الله ابن عبد المطلب ابن هاشم‎; c. 570 – c. 8 June 632), popularly called Prophet Muhammad, founder of Islam.
From ethnology, there is nothing Arabian or Arabic about Odùduwà, so he did not come from Mecca, but Benin.

The Sungbo Eredo Walls discovered in the south-west of the Yoruba town of Ijebu-Ode in Ogun state is more than 160 kilometres (99 mi).
The height difference between the bottom of the ditch and the upper rim of the bank on the inner side can reach 20 metres (66 ft). And as a construction project, it required more earth to be moved than the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt. The Eredo was built in 800–1000 AD.

Eredo sounds more like Benin to me than Yoruba, and similar to the awesome "Iya", the Great Walls of Benin, the largest man-made structure lengthwise on earth and also the largest earthwork in the world, made up of moats and ramparts, larger than Sungbo's Eredo and longer than the famous Great Wall of China.

Case closed.

igbodefender: Ife was founded by Igbos aboriginal to that area. Then the Yorubas took over, via Oduduwa and Queen Moremi. If the Igbo King of Ife hadn't fallen for Moremi, the secret of his warriors would not have been known to the Yorubas. Well, the rest is history.

Lol...mad man
If u have any dignity you would simply edit this post and never talk of this again.
You have been abused enough for your madness

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Yoruba language is very easy to learn. Knowing the meaning of few words in a particular language gives you the impression/encourangement that you can know more. Start by learning the meaning of these 3:
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3.) E Kaale : Good Evening.
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Very soon you will be speaking èdè Yorùbá like Opere. You will be able to say: "Yorùbá ní ọ̀pọ̀lọpọ̀ ẹ̀bùn ti làákàyè àti ti ẹ̀rí-ọkàn, ó sì yẹ kí wọn ó máa hùwà sí ara wọn gẹ́gẹ́ bí ọmọ ìyá"

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Brymo: house of love, ile ife

Ur knowledge of Yoruba language is very poor

Ile-Ife has nothing to do with love, I wish I had Yoruba keypads to show u that you are mixing two different words together

Frenchkiss564: the bolded is right but the igbo is not the ndi igbo of southwest. They are called ugbo people, they are the same people we call the ilaje people in onda state today. Ugbo kingdom is in ondo state, ife is owned by these people that is why ife is called ife ooyelugbo

And this is bullshiit

The Moremi and Ugbo vs Ife saga never indicated that Ugbo owned Ile-Ife
Ugbo were outsiders trying to take over Ife, Their attacks began long before Moremi, into the time of Oduduwa, it was Oduduwa who is first credited as the one who saved Ife from Ugbo people, after Oduduwa they thought they could have a chance again

macof:
Ur knowledge of Yoruba language is very poor

Ile-Ife has nothing to do with love, I wish I had Yoruba keypads to show u that you are mixing two different words together

wats wrong with this conclusive Yoruba teacher?

Orikinla: From archeology, anthropology and ethnology of the Art and Culture of Ife, the origins have been traced to Around 350 BC and that date is centuries before Odùduwà, the son of the last Ogiso (one of the Sky Kings dynasty of Benin) ran away from Benin kingdom for the fear of his life as the only son of his father the king. His Edo name was Izoduwa meaning "I have chosen the path of prosperity", corrupted by the Yoruba's as Odùduwà). He later sent Oranyan (also known as Oranmiyan), one of his sons by the Yoruba princess Okanbi to Benin Kingdom around 1170 AD.
Oranmiyan later became the first Alafin of Oyo.

From the above chronological analysis, you can see that Odùduwà is not the father of the Yorubas, because the cradle of Yoruba civilization is Ife and not Benin. And Ife Art history is centuries older than when Odùduwà arrived from Benin Kingdom in the 10th century.

[size=14pt]"The art of Ife and Benin is so important because one gives birth to the other. The Ife art was the most ancient in the forest region of Nigeria, simply because the Ife civilisation goes as far back as 300 - 500 BC. Therefore, it had developed a lot of artefacts, which marks the history of Ife.

Ife later gave birth not only to Benin, but also to the art of Igbo, the Onitsha art, even going as far as to the hinterland of the Igbo, Igbo Ukwu."
~ Dr. Omotoso Eluyemi, director of National Museums and Monuments.[/size]

Odùduwà did not descend from any Sky on a ladder of chain. What Odùduwà said was he was a descendant of the Ogisos, the Sky Kings dynasty of Benin. But oral mythology now turned it into descending from the sky (heaven).

Even if Odùduwà was a fugitive from Mecca, then he must have come after Abū al-Qāsim Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh ibn ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib ibn Hāshim (Arabic: ابو القاسم محمد ابن عبد الله ابن عبد المطلب ابن هاشم‎; c. 570 – c. 8 June 632), popularly called Prophet Muhammad, founder of Islam.
From ethnology, there is nothing Arabian or Arabic about Odùduwà, so he did not come from Mecca, but Benin.

The Sungbo Eredo Walls discovered in the south-west of the Yoruba town of Ijebu-Ode in Ogun state is more than 160 kilometres (99 mi).
The height difference between the bottom of the ditch and the upper rim of the bank on the inner side can reach 20 metres (66 ft). And as a construction project, it required more earth to be moved than the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt. The Eredo was built in 800–1000 AD.

Eredo sounds more like Benin to me than Yoruba, and similar to the awesome "Iya", the Great Walls of Benin, the largest man-made structure lengthwise on earth and also the largest earthwork in the world, made up of moats and ramparts, larger than Sungbo's Eredo and longer than the famous Great Wall of China.

Case closed.

And who are u to claim Oduduwa is from Benin and Eredo sounds more Benin than Yoruba and still say case closed

All the rubbish u have here are online copy and paste from incompetent people

Do u speak Ijebu, to know that eredo doesn't sound Yoruba, or in ur dumb brain you think everything Yoruba is based on Oyo language..even at that wat do u know in Oyo language??

Stop trying to attach Oduduwa to Benin, he was not from Benin...go learn the origin of Ogiso before talking about Oduduwa

macof:


And who are u to claim Oduduwa is from Benin and Eredo sounds more Benin than Yoruba and still say case closed

All the rubbish u have here are online copy and paste from incompetent people

Do u speak Ijebu, to know that eredo doesn't sound Yoruba, or in ur dumb brain you think everything Yoruba is based on Oyo language..even at that wat do u know in Oyo language??

Stop trying to attach Oduduwa to Benin, he was not from Benin...go learn the origin of Ogiso before talking about Oduduwa

Okay. Oduduwa came from your mama's va-gina.
Satisfied?
Mo-ron.

igbodefender: Ife was founded by Igbos aboriginal to that area. Then the Yorubas took over, via Oduduwa and Queen Moremi. If the Igbo King of Ife hadn't fallen for Moremi, the secret of his warriors would not have been known to the Yorubas. Well, the rest is history.

Papilo,

I know say one day, you will make us proud.
But stop reading too much apocrypha now my dear.

This your Yoruba-heretic in the name of "history" na, ehn-ehn.
Your courage impress me though, but the beating here na waya.

You have receive sege response from various quarters on this,
Your post is complete banza post, take this wanka to simmer.

See you in the evil forest soon,
Please enjoy your deportation.

#MostQuotedPostOnThread

Orikinla: From archeology, anthropology and ethnology of the Art and Culture of Ife, the origins have been traced to Around 350 BC and that date is centuries before Odùduwà, the son of the last Ogiso (one of the Sky Kings dynasty of Benin) ran away from Benin kingdom for the fear of his life as the only son of his father the king. His Edo name was Izoduwa meaning "I have chosen the path of prosperity", corrupted by the Yoruba's as Odùduwà). He later sent Oranyan (also known as Oranmiyan), one of his sons by the Yoruba princess Okanbi to Benin Kingdom around 1170 AD.
Oranmiyan later became the first Alafin of Oyo.
From the above chronological analysis, you can see that Odùduwà is not the father of the Yorubas, because the cradle of Yoruba civilization is Ife and not Benin. And Ife Art history is centuries older than when Odùduwà arrived from Benin Kingdom in the 10th century.
[size=14pt]"The art of Ife and Benin is so important because one gives birth to the other. The Ife art was the most ancient in the forest region of Nigeria, simply because the Ife civilisation goes as far back as 300 - 500 BC. Therefore, it had developed a lot of artefacts, which marks the history of Ife.
Ife later gave birth not only to Benin, but also to the art of Igbo, the Onitsha art, even going as far as to the hinterland of the Igbo, Igbo Ukwu."
~ Dr. Omotoso Eluyemi, director of National Museums and Monuments.[/size]
Odùduwà did not descend from any Sky on a ladder of chain. What Odùduwà said was he was a descendant of the Ogisos, the Sky Kings dynasty of Benin. But oral mythology now turned it into descending from the sky (heaven).
Even if Odùduwà was a fugitive from Mecca, then he must have come after Abū al-Qāsim Muḥammad ibn ʿAbd Allāh ibn ʿAbd al-Muṭṭalib ibn Hāshim (Arabic: ابو القاسم محمد ابن عبد الله ابن عبد المطلب ابن هاشم‎; c. 570 – c. 8 June 632), popularly called Prophet Muhammad, founder of Islam.
From ethnology, there is nothing Arabian or Arabic about Odùduwà, so he did not come from Mecca, but Benin.
The Sungbo Eredo Walls discovered in the south-west of the Yoruba town of Ijebu-Ode in Ogun state is more than 160 kilometres (99 mi).
The height difference between the bottom of the ditch and the upper rim of the bank on the inner side can reach 20 metres (66 ft). And as a construction project, it required more earth to be moved than the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt. The Eredo was built in 800–1000 AD.
Eredo sounds more like Benin to me than Yoruba, and similar to the awesome "Iya", the Great Walls of Benin, the largest man-made structure lengthwise on earth and also the largest earthwork in the world, made up of moats and ramparts, larger than Sungbo's Eredo and longer than the famous Great Wall of China.
Case closed.

HOLD IT THERE!!! Copy and past without a knowledge of what you are blabbing is detrimental to your health and reputation.

Before Benin, there was Ife. Chronologically, Ife's history is divided into 3. The first was Ife Oodaiye, Ile Owuro (the land of the most ancient days where the dawn was first experienced). the second was Ife Ooyelagbo(Ife, the city of survivors), created after the deluge that destroyed the first Ife. The third is Ilé Ifè (Nothing related to love; yoruba for love is ìfé), which was brought about by the merging of 13 existing communities by Oduduwa after defeating them in battle, becoming the first Ooni of the united kingdom.

What Oduduwa said was that bla bla bla,... WERE U THERE Oduduwa’s was believed to live before the deluge, and descended with his kith and kin from their lifeboats, which anchored, on Oke-Ora (Oramfe Hills) (EAST of Ife) by means of chain ropes.

No dey give us copy and paste dey form historian for here. all of us sabi use google oga.

Tradition tells us that Oduduwa had many children, male and female. Oduduwa’s first child was a daughter, and mother of Olowu, Asunkungbade the founder of Owu Kingdom. Towards the end of Oduduwa’s reign, He became blind and lost four of his powerful sons. On the demise of Ooni Odua, his eldest living son Obalufon Ogbogbodiri succeeded him as Ooni. Before his death, Ooni Odua, he reformed the government and crowned all his children and sent them abroad with orders to show filial obedience to their brother who he first crowned his successor as Ooni. At his death, it was common knowledge that next to Obalufon, Godo or Onibini was next, and Oranmiyan was his last born. Oduduwa crowned his children thus:
1. Ogiso, alias Godo or Onibini – Oba Ado (Benin)
2. Orangun – Onila or Oba Ila (Igbomina)
3. Alake – founder of Egba Kingdom
4. Alaketu founder of Ake and Ketu etc
5. Obarada who was driven to found the Kingdom of Dahomey
6. Oni Nana who founded his kingdom in the old Gold Coast (Ghana)
7. Owore – founded Otun Kingdom (destroyed by the Fulani)
8. Oranyan (later the progenitor proper of Yorubas), Oloyo or Oloyooro who founded the Oyo Kingdom
9. Awujale (Olugborogan or Ogboroganda) founder if Ijebu Kingdom
10. Deji Ajaponda – founder of Akure Kingdom
11. Olowu son of Odudwa’s daughter – founder of Owu Kingdom
12. Owa Obokun – founder of the Ijesha Kingdom.

The list goes on to 26 of the crowns Oduduwa handed to his children.

penmate101:


HOLD IT THERE!!! Copy and past without a knowledge of what you are blabbing is detrimental to your health and reputation.

Before Benin, there was Ife. Chronologically, Ife's history is divided into 3. The first was Ife Oodaiye, Ile Owuro (the land of the most ancient days where the dawn was first experienced). the second was Ife Ooyelagbo(Ife, the city of survivors), created after the deluge that destroyed the first Ife. The third is Ilé Ifè (Nothing related to love; yoruba for love is ìfé), which was brought about by the merging of 13 existing communities by Oduduwa after defeating them in battle, becoming the first Ooni of the united kingdom.

What Oduduwa said was that bla bla bla,... WERE U THERE Oduduwa’s was believed to live before the deluge, and descended with his kith and kin from their lifeboats, which anchored, on Oke-Ora (Oramfe Hills) (EAST of Ife) by means of chain ropes.

No dey give us copy and paste dey form historian for here. all of us sabi use google oga.

Tradition tells us that Oduduwa had many children, male and female. Oduduwa’s first child was a daughter, and mother of Olowu, Asunkungbade the founder of Owu Kingdom. Towards the end of Oduduwa’s reign, He became blind and lost four of his powerful sons. On the demise of Ooni Odua, his eldest living son Obalufon Ogbogbodiri succeeded him as Ooni. Before his death, Ooni Odua, he reformed the government and crowned all his children and sent them abroad with orders to show filial obedience to their brother who he first crowned his successor as Ooni. At his death, it was common knowledge that next to Obalufon, Godo or Onibini was next, and Oranmiyan was his last born. Oduduwa crowned his children thus:
1. Ogiso, alias Godo or Onibini – Oba Ado (Benin)
2. Orangun – Onila or Oba Ila (Igbomina)
3. Alake – founder of Egba Kingdom
4. Alaketu founder of Ake and Ketu etc
5. Obarada who was driven to found the Kingdom of Dahomey
6. Oni Nana who founded his kingdom in the old Gold Coast (Ghana)
7. Owore – founded Otun Kingdom (destroyed by the Fulani)
8. Oranyan (later the progenitor proper of Yorubas), Oloyo or Oloyooro who founded the Oyo Kingdom
9. Awujale (Olugborogan or Ogboroganda) founder if Ijebu Kingdom
10. Deji Ajaponda – founder of Akure Kingdom
11. Olowu son of Odudwa’s daughter – founder of Owu Kingdom
12. Owa Obokun – founder of the Ijesha Kingdom.

The list goes on to 26 of the crowns Oduduwa handed to his children.

Olodo....go and check Yoruba history again. It was oranmiyan that was sent to Bini. Olodo roboto olodo rabata!!

penmate101:


HOLD IT THERE!!! Copy and past without a knowledge of what you are blabbing is detrimental to your health and reputation.

Before Benin, there was Ife. Chronologically, Ife's history is divided into 3. The first was Ife Oodaiye, Ile Owuro (the land of the most ancient days where the dawn was first experienced). the second was Ife Ooyelagbo(Ife, the city of survivors), created after the deluge that destroyed the first Ife. The third is Ilé Ifè (Nothing related to love; yoruba for love is ìfé), which was brought about by the merging of 13 existing communities by Oduduwa after defeating them in battle, becoming the first Ooni of the united kingdom.

What Oduduwa said was that bla bla bla,... WERE U THERE Oduduwa’s was believed to live before the deluge, and descended with his kith and kin from their lifeboats, which anchored, on Oke-Ora (Oramfe Hills) (EAST of Ife) by means of chain ropes.

No dey give us copy and paste dey form historian for here. all of us sabi use google oga.

Tradition tells us that Oduduwa had many children, male and female. Oduduwa’s first child was a daughter, and mother of Olowu, Asunkungbade the founder of Owu Kingdom. Towards the end of Oduduwa’s reign, He became blind and lost four of his powerful sons. On the demise of Ooni Odua, his eldest living son Obalufon Ogbogbodiri succeeded him as Ooni. Before his death, Ooni Odua, he reformed the government and crowned all his children and sent them abroad with orders to show filial obedience to their brother who he first crowned his successor as Ooni. At his death, it was common knowledge that next to Obalufon, Godo or Onibini was next, and Oranmiyan was his last born. Oduduwa crowned his children thus:
1. Ogiso, alias Godo or Onibini – Oba Ado (Benin)
2. Orangun – Onila or Oba Ila (Igbomina)
3. Alake – founder of Egba Kingdom
4. Alaketu founder of Ake and Ketu etc
5. Obarada who was driven to found the Kingdom of Dahomey
6. Oni Nana who founded his kingdom in the old Gold Coast (Ghana)
7. Owore – founded Otun Kingdom (destroyed by the Fulani)
8. Oranyan (later the progenitor proper of Yorubas), Oloyo or Oloyooro who founded the Oyo Kingdom
9. Awujale (Olugborogan or Ogboroganda) founder if Ijebu Kingdom
10. Deji Ajaponda – founder of Akure Kingdom
11. Olowu son of Odudwa’s daughter – founder of Owu Kingdom
12. Owa Obokun – founder of the Ijesha Kingdom.

The list goes on to 26 of the crowns Oduduwa handed to his children.

near perfection of your historical understanding of Yoruba history. Are you still in this forum?