My peeps and wizards hree, i need ur advice on which programme to engage in between now and november NYSC camping. Please i've always used intructive infos from this family and i would rely on your advice this time more urgently.
These are my situations:
1. I am badly shortsighted, so practical sessions may not favour me. (Worse in low lit areas).
2. I hav relatively 2 months for any of d programs.
3. I am looking towards one enterprenurship enhancing programme. (I better not consider whitecollar jobs due to my bad high myopia)

bonerVee: My peeps and wizards hree, i need ur advice on which programme to engage in between now and november NYSC camping. Please i've always used intructive infos from this family and i would rely on your advice this time more urgently.
These are my situations:
1. I am badly shortsighted, so practical sessions may not favour me. (Worse in low lit areas).
2. I hav relatively 2 months for any of d programs.
3. I am looking towards one enterprenurship enhancing programme. (I better not consider whitecollar jobs due to my bad high myopia)

The question is which of them do you think is most relevant to your career or dreamt placement? Have you also considered their duration repectively in view of the impending National Youth Service? Hence choose the one that is relevant (i mean that wl be helpful to you in future) to your career and also consider the one that has the shortest duration considering the nearness of ur NYSC.
#myopinion#

@kentnicole as for intrest, i share equal intrest 4 dm, doe i admire programmers. As 4 Duration, dts part of my qxn as u cn c in my no.2 consideration pts, so its more lik u rephrased my qxns. Tnx doe.

bonerVee: @kentnicole as for intrest, i share equal intrest 4 dm, doe i admire programmers. As 4 Duration, dts part of my qxn as u cn c in my no.2 consideration pts, so its more lik u rephrased my qxns. Tnx doe.

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bonerVee: My peeps and wizards hree, i need ur advice on which programme to engage in between now and november NYSC camping. Please i've always used intructive infos from this family and i would rely on your advice this time more urgently.
These are my situations:
1. I am badly shortsighted, so practical sessions may not favour me. (Worse in low lit areas).
2. I hav relatively 2 months for any of d programs.
3. I am looking towards one enterprenurship enhancing programme. (I better not consider whitecollar jobs due to my bad high myopia)

Do you want to become a software engineer or network engineer. Java is but one learning language and whilst it is used to programme OS like Android, scripting languages like Perl, Ruby and Python are more important these days.

If you love network engineering and network science and love working with IP addresses and networks, then do the CCNA.

Fulaman198 and Kentnickole have already hit the nail on the head, It depends on your carrier path

Also if you are indecisive about the program to follow , simple bank the money in the bank and be collecting interest

Regards

Tellus ur field of study?

2 months is too small to bring yourself up decent levels.

For programmg this is my rule of thumb.
1-3 yrs : rookie.
4-6 yrs : intermediate
7-10yrs : master
10yrs+ : Don/professional

myopia is no excuse. If u can read on nairaland you re good to go.

asalimpo: Tellus ur field of study?

2 months is too small to bring yourself up decent levels.

For programmg this is my rule of thumb.
1-3 yrs : rookie.
4-6 yrs : intermediate
7-10yrs : master
10yrs+ : Don/professional

myopia is no excuse. If u can read on nairaland you re good to go.

Omo.. Only a language??

asalimpo: Tellus ur field of study?

2 months is too small to bring yourself up decent levels.

For programmg this is my rule of thumb.
1-3 yrs : rookie.
4-6 yrs : intermediate
7-10yrs : master
10yrs+ : Don/professional

myopia is no excuse. If u can read on nairaland you re good to go.

rily hlpful, ds means i beta settle 4 ccna dn. Then tak my tym 2 groom myslf on programming (considerin ur thumb rule). Wel as 4 my course its EE(telecoms). Doe we bera nt consider it wen it cmes 2 REAL empowerment. Lov ur last line, its motivating. Tnx bro.

@asalimpo on d lighter mood, ur thumb rule wud mean dt deres no PROs in naija.

Yea it a gud tin Ʋ avin d passion. Honestli, if Ʋ MST b grounded in one of d two(2), u'll nid time. Its jst sth dt wen Ʋ practice ova nd ova, even if Ʋ leave it, going bak won't b a hazzle, y cos uve established yasef in it.
From experience, as i speak, am also waitin 4 Nov batch. I tink if Ʋ gat a gud say tutor, under 3-4 mnths, Ʋ sld av muved a higher pace in Netwrkin, wid Java, i bet Ʋ, ull nid lik a year wid thorough learning.
'STUDY 2 show yasef approved' is d keywrd! If Ʋ MST b gud, Ʋ nid go d xtra mile. God bles Ʋ!

Pls study programing, CCNA is like pure water now. You always have a edge if u re a programmer because u can establish yourself n be self employed.

The language I'ld advice u to study is C# (Microsoft's language used for desktop , mobile n Web Development (using asp.net) ) or u study php n its sister languages (html, CSS, Javascript, etc ) wc is easier to learn but d salary for php developers is lesser than Microsoft(C#) developers because php is a free open source platform while Microsoft's platform is proprietary.
I don't think Java is selling like before again especially wrt d above mentioned languages, unless u want to be an android developer(android uses Java language for its native development).

I hope this helps sha.


Note: this is my personal view, please feel free to make your choice. Tnx

abdul01: Pls study programing, CCNA is like pure water now. You always have a edge if u re a programmer because u can establish yourself n be self employed.

The language I'ld advice u to study is C# (Microsoft's language used for desktop , mobile n Web Development (using asp.net) ) or u study php n its sister languages (html, CSS, Javascript, etc ) wc is easier to learn but d salary for php developers is lesser than Microsoft(C#) developers because php is a free open source platform while Microsoft's platform is proprietary.
I don't think Java is selling like before again especially wrt d above mentioned languages, unless u want to be an android developer(android uses Java language for its native development).

I hope this helps sha.


Note: this is my personal view, please feel free to make your choice. Tnx

Do you even have a CCNA?

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No I don't , but I'm an instructor in one of the IT training centers and I know how things go.

But as I mentioned above, what I wrote is just my own personal opinion, d OP is free to choose whatever he's convinced about. Tnx

Tnx Bros @abdul considrin a 2mth period! Do u tink its posibl 2 grasp a gud foudation on programmin upon wch i cn dn develop myslf? @tobsbola, mate, are ur tots on Java frm xperience?

What i can sieve here are as follows:
1. ON ENTERPRENURAL OPPORTUNITIES:
Of d two prigrammes, PROGRAMMING (LANGUAGES) has more enterpreneural chances than Networking (CCNA). Say, 70 to 30.
2. ON MY SIGHT ISSUESs; accordin 2 Asalimpo, both programmes are game. GREAT NEWS 4 me.
3. AVAILABLE TIME (2 mths):
it seems d minmal duration sufficient 4 a basic foundational knowledge on CCNA is more realisable. Say 70 to 30. So it swwms, frm d submissions so far.

bonerVee: @asalimpo on d lighter mood, ur thumb rule wud mean dt deres no PROs in naija.

Theyre scores of professionals.
Ppl who strted learng
(programmng on or bf 2004).

abdul01: Pls study programing, CCNA is like pure water now. You always have a edge if u re a programmer because u can establish yourself n be self employed.

The language I'ld advice u to study is C# (Microsoft's language used for desktop , mobile n Web Development (using asp.net) ) or u study php n its sister languages (html, CSS, Javascript, etc ) wc is easier to learn but d salary for php developers is lesser than Microsoft(C#) developers because php is a free open source platform while Microsoft's platform is proprietary.
I don't think Java is selling like before again especially wrt d above mentioned languages, unless u want to be an android developer(android uses Java language for its native development).

I hope this helps sha.


Note: this is my personal view, please feel free to make your choice. Tnx

c# is a java clone. There's very lil diffrence.

Knownpal:

Omo.. Only a language??

No, not the language but d profession - programming - tht i'm talkg about.

Wl 2mths do, to learn a language n dn develop wt time n practice?

bonerVee: Wl 2mths do, to learn a language n dn develop wt time n practice?

No.
2 months wrkg 10hrs a day non-stop? Still no. (10*60=600hrs).
Can you learn how to read n write in 2 months? Mayb. Can u become a decent author ,novelist, fiction writer in 2 months?
How long will it take to b in d rockstar class (john grisham, mario puzo, chimamanda)?
Definitely not two months.
If u want to b a software engineer (You can design elegant solutions. Write efficient software.
Program in multiple languages.
Work in different paradigms.
Build and debugg different programs)
it will cost you seriously (time,money).
If you want to just get a job asap
(in I.T) programmg just aint it.
Anoda route wud b to look for a mentor and study under him as an apprentice.
Alternatvly, just explore d field on ur own for a year ,while doing somthg else , and see how things go from there.

bonerVee: Tnx Bros @abdul considrin a 2mth period! Do u tink its posibl 2 grasp a gud foudation on programmin upon wch i cn dn develop myslf? @tobsbola, mate, are ur tots on Java frm xperience?

Oh yea bro! Reali i MST say Ʋ av so many gwed guys out there, wid which Ʋ wil b competin against.
It depends on wot Ʋ going wiv in java: desktop,mobile,netwrk appz,web app(jsp),enterprise(javaee).
If Ʋ MST double up ur speed, ull nid sum say video tutorials or tutors, den Ʋ sld b able 2 read nd burn mid-nyt candles.
Ʋ bcom taller by standin on d shoulders of giants, - y Ʋ nid tutors.
I dedicated lik 2mnts 2 studing ccna stuff wid packet trace, loads of ebuk, tutorials, downloaded youtube further xpllanatns, etc.
Finali where Ʋ wanna get 2 determine hw Ʋ wil prepare. Ʋ also nid a model.
Netwrkin isn't hard. Java isn't Too hard either bt requires more time. Tnx nd remain blessed.

bonerVee: Tnx Bros @abdul considrin a 2mth period! Do u tink its posibl 2 grasp a gud foudation on programmin upon wch i cn dn develop myslf? @tobsbola, mate, are ur tots on Java frm xperience?

Yer you should be able to learn a language like C# within 3 months, especially if u have a background in programming(I.e u know d constituents a programming language like variables, operators, arrays, data types, functions, etc).

Tnx yall. U're al 2 kind. So happy 2 use ds rum. I went 2 afrihub awka n requestes 4 java bt they hav only ccna 2 run ds summer in 2mths. Bt i wud av prefrd java doe. Proud of my GURUs here.

bonerVee: Tnx yall. U're al 2 kind. So happy 2 use ds rum. I went 2 afrihub awka n requestes 4 java bt they hav only ccna 2 run ds summer in 2mths. Bt i wud av prefrd java doe. Proud of my GURUs here.

Please keep in mind that network engineering and software engineering are two very different specializations in the IT World. You have to ask yourself do you want to be a software engineer that deals with mainly Cisco Routers and Switches or do you want to be a Software engineer that deals only in the Java language. Right now, the only main thing involved with the Java language is "Android OS". Scripting languages like Perl, Python, Ruby, etc. are what is making it right now in the programming world. It's up to you though. It's not too late to decide.

Fulaman198:

Please keep in mind that network engineering and software engineering are two very different specializations in the IT World. You have to ask yourself do you want to be a software engineer that deals with mainly Cisco Routers and Switches or do you want to be a Software engineer that deals only in the Java language. Right now, the only main thing involved with the Java language is "Android OS". [b]Scripting languages like Perl, Python, Ruby, etc. are what is making it right now in the programming world. [/b]It's up to you though. It's not too late to decide.

you mean in the web dev world.
because for desktop and standalone apps many jvm languages abound.
Scala,clojure,groovy (java scripting) are competg with java.
Haskell and other functional languages ar also gaining ground.

Truth is python and co are too slow for critical wrk. If OP is serious about programming,he shud learn 1 high calibre language (c++,java,D), 1 scriptg language (python,ruby,groovy,perl), one functional language (clojure,haskell,erlang,ocaml,racket,scheme), one new language(julia,vala,ceylon).

asalimpo:

you mean in the web dev world.
because for desktop and standalone apps many jvm languages abound.
Scala,clojure,groovy (java scripting) are competg with java.
Haskell and other functional languages ar also gaining ground.

Truth is python and co are too slow for critical wrk. If OP is serious about programming,he shud learn 1 high calibre language (c++,java,D), 1 scriptg language (python,ruby,groovy,perl), one functional language (clojure,haskell,erlang,ocaml,racket,scheme), one new language(julia,vala,ceylon).

If you study computer science in University abroad in America like I did, first year they start you off with some basic - intermediate Java or C++ then second year at least for me they focus on C++ and programming algorithms keep in mind that this was about 10 years ago so things could have changed since (I mean what they teach at the University).

asalimpo:

What about we studying on our own?? What's our fate??

Fulaman180:

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Fulaman198:

If you study computer science in University abroad in America like I did, first year they start you off with some basic - intermediate [b]Java or C++ then second year at least for me they focus on C++ [/b]and programming algorithms keep in mind that this was about 10 years ago so things could have changed since (I mean what they teach at the University).

at least they aint usg arcane stuff like qbasic,basic,fortran and try to justify it.
Things hav changed thats y wannabes shud put try newer languages also.

Knownpal:

What about we studying on our own?? What's our fate??

keep truckg.

Fulaman198:

If you study computer science in University abroad in America like I did, first year they start you off with some basic - intermediate Java or C++ then second year at least for me they focus on C++ and programming algorithms keep in mind that this was about 10 years ago so things could have changed since (I mean what they teach at the University).

You forgot to mention matlab bro