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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by gbodimowo(m): 7:25am On Aug 24, 2014
Those people that don't know what it means to train doctors keep blabing

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by Mishydoo(m): 7:29am On Aug 24, 2014
PerfectFortune:

And you are a Dr.?

You write so badly and make disgusting sense too.

Please work on yourself and stop disgracing the esteemed medical profession.

Note: Same goes to your likes that liked your posts.



I was wondering d same thing,that dude speaks lyka re.trd....my gateman has better rep in public

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by persie98: 7:38am On Aug 24, 2014
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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by Nobody: 7:41am On Aug 24, 2014
Another victory for GEJ! Where is that Phantom that was spewing gibberish some weeks ago.

Useless renegades masquerading as doctors!

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by EHoudini: 7:43am On Aug 24, 2014
Well, nma have lost it. This is lowest point in their 'blackmailing trade'. D cup became half empty. Sad life

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by Nobody: 7:49am On Aug 24, 2014
Sorry, if these people on Nairaland claiming to be doctors are actually one, I SMH in dismay. How can people with that level of education be writing in short code and using incoherent words like secondary school pupils? Stop bringing disgrace to the profession.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by Nobody: 7:50am On Aug 24, 2014
Atleast Ebola has been contained to some extent, so I can comfortably go back to work and not risk treating Ebola patients unknowingly.
Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by sainty2k3(m): 8:00am On Aug 24, 2014
PerfectFortune:

And you are a Dr.?

You write so badly and make disgusting sense too.

Please work on yourself and stop disgracing the esteemed medical profession.

Note: Same goes to your likes that liked your posts.
Mishydoo:
I was wondering d same thing,that dude speaks lyka re.trd....my gateman has better rep in public

It must be disgusting to you , my write up was Neva meant to soothe ur pains. Mr. johessu

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by sainty2k3(m): 8:09am On Aug 24, 2014
ige101:
And you think they wont get to know of it?
*smiles* of course they'll know, just been sacarstic
Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by rhymz(m): 8:15am On Aug 24, 2014
phantom: a representative of the SGF pius anyim is in the meeting now and is saying that anyim is pleading we should call off.
the same anyim who has gone to the media saying negotiations have stopped. grin grin grin

sorry its senator mark that sent in someone and also called. please disregard the bolded.
seriously, if you are a Doc, you need further training on how you manage people and situations because you are very naive and see every issues as an ailment whose only solution is strike.

In case it has not occurred to you, the doctors are now the ones at the disadvantaged position of negotiations, it is now about getting their jobs back not all that trivial nonsense about power struggle in FG hospitals management and administration and needless nomenclature ego fights amongst colleagues.

Government has effectively cut the oversized ego of these doctors to size. I like the way they ended the negotiations and suspended the residency program, that was a master stroke and a game changer...... Let's see how an unemployed Resident doctor will be concerned with how a pharmacist that has a job choose to address himself.... V

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by Nobody: 8:17am On Aug 24, 2014
ozo13: only if dey will not lock d door to offices and run away wt d keys oooo.cos dey know d doctors can actually do all dos things.its not pride.JUS D TRUTH.if dey don't believe dey shld go on wt dr planned strike and leave we Nigerians as umpire to judge how important each profession is in d hospital.d fight in d hospital is like asking someone to come and join u in eating ooo and such a person now think dey r smart.d only people d doctors need among them is d guys DAT keep patients files from my own research in d hospital.and I don't think dey r part of johesu. Imagine how smart we Nigerians r.nurses wan use ordinary ND certificate become consultant for hospital.haba it is not done anywr in d world nah.solution: everyone shld love his or her profession. Na so polytechnic ppl wanna dey enjoy d samething university graduate dey enjoy.wr as university graduates entered wt 180-240 jamb pass mark and poly ppl 130-150 and 3credit

Guy, you think like a clown.... a consultant is an expert in a field, by definition, a consultant is someone who provides expert advice professionally... except you are saying only doctors have the right to become experts...
There is nothing wrong with having a consultant nurse or a consultant pharmacists as long as they have attained a certain level of Expertise...
Look how slow you are, the lab scientists test for illnesses not Doctors, I remember how I almost died in 2009 because one doctor was just assuming diseases that were not there, it was until I went for a proper checkup that I realized I'd been treating the wrong sickness, these days I simply go to the lab, get a test result and proceed to the pharmacy... pharmacists make those drugs, mind you.... not doctors..
All this chestbeating is complete nonsense, everyone is equally important in the Medical Field, the Doctors' resolve to suppress and subjugate other medical practitioners is really misguided... The main grouse I have with these doctors is that 90% of them attended Federal Government Institutions, meaning, they were basically trained for FREE, did you get that, TRAINED FOR FREE... As student, they are already earning more than most workers in the civil service yet they come and start talking Trash... Let them not suspend the strike so people can keep dying, it's a business venture, the Hippocratic oath doesn't mean Jack.. Profit is the optimum goal, most of them have private Hospitals where they charge exorbitant prices anyway...

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by Exmay(m): 8:21am On Aug 24, 2014
sainty2k3:
Yes o, I pray that they dare talk of strike , it will be our chance to show them how useless they can be
Sorry Bro, but we can't adequately proof that johesu is useless. This pple will lock everything Up including ur Steth and ur pen torch (if u forgot to take it along with U) when they go on strike...

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by doofanc: 8:29am On Aug 24, 2014
sainty2k3:
Yes o, I pray that they dare talk of strike , it will be our chance to show them how useless they can be

Totally uncalled for. Pls respect yourself. angry

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by soludo93(m): 8:33am On Aug 24, 2014
Without greed and self-centeredness, there wasn't any need for the strike in the first place.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by pazienza(m): 8:35am On Aug 24, 2014
Spineless, hungry,poverty driven NMA. They should be ashamed of themselves, they have no iota of respect, what a bunch jokers, just the scare of losing their jobs,and they are on their knees begging for pardon, it's now obvious to all,that their struggle was all about financial gains, GEJ and his team just proved that with the sack scare.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by pazienza(m): 8:39am On Aug 24, 2014
Congratulations to JOHESU! you lots are right, Nigeria hospitals deserve better leaders than these hunger driven NMA. FG should see to it that this is done,now that the hungry NMA are on their knees.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by phibah: 8:46am On Aug 24, 2014
njokusboy: Doctors get their consultancy through rigorous financially consuming, brain and energy draining Residency training....it's not awarded but earned.
...if you likes as a doctor work for 30 years, have all the experience, without residency you can never be a consultant..

Now JOHESU pple want to get that without any specialist postgraduate training....where is such done?

Guy, you think like a clown.... a consultant is an expert in a field, by definition, a consultant is someone who provides expert advice professionally... except you are saying only doctors have the right to become experts...
There is nothing wrong with having a consultant nurse or a consultant pharmacists as long as they have attained a certain level of Expertise...
Look how slow you are, the lab scientists test for illnesses not Doctors, I remember how I almost died in 2009 because one doctor was just assuming diseases that were not there, it was until I went for a proper checkup that I realized I'd been treating the wrong sickness, these days I simply go to the lab, get a test result and proceed to the pharmacy... pharmacists make those drugs, mind you.... not doctors..
All this chestbeating is complete nonsense, everyone is equally important in the Medical Field, the Doctors' resolve to suppress and subjugate other medical practitioners is really misguided... The main grouse I have with these doctors is that 90% of them attended Federal Government Institutions, meaning, they were basically trained for FREE, did you get that, TRAINED FOR FREE... As student, they are already earning more than most workers in the civil service yet they come and start talking Trash... Let them not suspend the strike so people can keep dying, it's a business venture, the Hippocratic oath doesn't mean Jack.. Profit is the optimum goal, most of them have private Hospitals where they charge exorbitant prices anyway...
Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by Nobody: 8:47am On Aug 24, 2014
Phew! Back to work!! Oya JOHESU com start ur own. Make i go stretch leg for ward.
Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by rhymz(m): 8:47am On Aug 24, 2014
Mbediogu:
What do you mean by 'them don tire'? You think they are happy to be on strike that long? You still do not see their point of view? Perhaps you saw the other side's point of view? I know that nobody goes to war who doesn't think he has a point. A 'balancing' of all such points has been done and a bilaterally satisfactory agreement has been reached, thats all. Nobody is tired, nobody defeated. If no one reneges on the letters of the agreement, It will victory for the nation including YOU the questioner: and another shame to the devil on a Sunday morning.

YOU sound like a broken record whose songs have become trite and tiring. They just overstretched their importance and got served. After all said and done, the government has made its point clearly and without equivocation that they are the employers and can as well disengage them if they choose to make things difficult.

We all know that the main motives of the strike were largely self-serving ego boosting trip that overemphasized their importance while ignoring their equally important colleagues in the profession. You can not pick and choose what your employer. I was hoping many of these residents will try out private hospitals owned by their senior colleagues who are busy using them as shield to push for self - serving demands that deliberately undermines equally deserving colleagues as well.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by phantom(m): 8:49am On Aug 24, 2014
rhymz: seriously, if you are a Doc, you need further training on how you manage people and situations because you are very naive and see every issues as an ailment whose only solution is strike.

In case it has not occurred to you, the doctors are now the ones at the disadvantaged position of negotiations, it is now about getting their jobs back not all that trivial nonsense about power struggle in FG hospitals management and administration and needless nomenclature ego fights amongst colleagues.

Government has effectively cut the oversized ego of these doctors to size. I like the way they ended the negotiations and suspended the residency program, that was a master stroke and a game changer...... Let's see how an unemployed Resident doctor will be concerned with how a pharmacist that has a job choose to address himself.... V

why are you hyperventilating? strike has been called of with members getting alerts even when JOHESU was told that there was no money.
things are already happening and you are getting worked up.
go and ask how far with the directorship and consultancy for other health workers

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by julybaba(m): 8:53am On Aug 24, 2014
sainty2k3:

Some demands were met with compromise. The honour of senate president is at stake if Jonathan didn't reinstate residency immediately as promised, but do the really care about us? I think the answer is Nooooo
The Medical profession is a noble one. Lives are meant to be saved by health workers. Had it been, the doctor suspended their strike (Temporarily, for just 3 days) when ebola broke out, and help with sensitization only, without treating anyone. They would have the sympathy of the masses. But now, everyone care less about them. It's a pity. And u said, David Mark promised to help with the reinstatement of residency. You cant take politicians for their words. They are constantly in different state of matter.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by thegeneral84: 8:57am On Aug 24, 2014
njokusboy:

Guy, you think like a clown.... a consultant is an expert in a field, by definition, a consultant is someone who provides expert advice professionally... except you are saying only doctors have the right to become experts...
There is nothing wrong with having a consultant nurse or a consultant pharmacists as long as they have attained a certain level of Expertise...
Look how slow you are, the lab scientists test for illnesses not Doctors, I remember how I almost died in 2009 because one doctor was just assuming diseases that were not there, it was until I went for a proper checkup that I realized I'd been treating the wrong sickness, these days I simply go to the lab, get a test result and proceed to the pharmacy... pharmacists make those drugs, mind you.... not doctors..
All this chestbeating is complete nonsense, everyone is equally important in the Medical Field, the Doctors' resolve to suppress and subjugate other medical practitioners is really misguided... The main grouse I have with these doctors is that 90% of them attended Federal Government Institutions, meaning, they were basically trained for FREE, did you get that, TRAINED FOR FREE... As student, they are already earning more than most workers in the civil service yet they come and start talking Trash... Let them not suspend the strike so people can keep dying, it's a business venture, the Hippocratic oath doesn't mean Jack.. Profit is the optimum goal, most of them have private Hospitals where they charge exorbitant prices anyway...
I'm most certain the tests you request for yourself are usually malaria and typhoid (widal) tests, maybe a sugar and urine test and you think you've got it all covered. Hope you know Widal test has been abandoned since the 1990s because its result is ambiguous? You obviously haven't been really sick because then, you will discovered how incomplete and not-so-useful those tests would be without a proper medical history(which is elucidated by Doctors because a patient may think a symptom is not relevant to the illness but a Doctor tallies all those together). To further demonstrate the place of lab tests in a patients management; ideally (eg in exams) a Doctor should not interpret a lab result unless s/he has a medical history of the said patient. Also, a lab result which is not in keeping with the clinical state of the patient ( as assessed by the Doctor) is either rejected or repeated. The above examples are standards of clinical practice. Thus, the lab result is just an aid to the Doctor's clinical assessment and NEVER a replacement to clinical assessment. In situations where lab results and clinical assessment contradict each other, clinical assessment supervenes.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by rhymz(m): 9:00am On Aug 24, 2014
phantom:
why are you hyperventilating? strike has been called of with members getting alerts even when JOHESU was told that there was no money.
things are already happening and you are getting worked up.
go and ask how far with the directorship and consultancy for other health workers
hahaha haha..... How old is the kid?
You just confirmed my argument already, the strike was not about anything that will benefit Nigerians or improve the hospital, it was an ego ride to no where, just some endless round about movement that has yielded no result than happy threat of sack.... Lol.

And don't kid yourself with that nonsensical claims of striking doctors receiving alert already, while you are busy doing your i-wanna-be or look-like-a-doc, I am in contact with the real doctors that have been affected and nobody has received any fictitious alert..... Lol

Just because I assume you may be a doc does not mean I can not decipher who the real docs are here.... Lol.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by pazienza(m): 9:01am On Aug 24, 2014
phantom:

why are you hyperventilating? strike has been called of with members getting alerts even when JOHESU was told that there was no money.
things are already happening and you are getting worked up.
go and ask how far with the directorship and consultancy for other health workers


Phantom, on the last part of your post. Did NMA win that battle of sole ownership of consultancy and CMDs in the hospitals?
Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by phantom(m): 9:06am On Aug 24, 2014
rhymz: hahaha haha..... How old is the kid?
You just confirmed my argument already, the strike was not about anything that will benefit Nigerians or improve the hospital, it was an ego ride to no where, just some endless round about movement that has yielded no result than happy threat of sack.... Lol.

And don't kid yourself with that nonsensical claims of striking doctors receiving alert already, while you are busy doing your i-wanna-be or look-like-a-doc, I am in contact with the real doctors that have been affected and nobody has received any fictitious alert..... Lol

Just because I assume you may be a doc does not mean I can not decipher who the real docs are here.... Lol.

my man calm down. call any resident in FMC ido ekiti.
if you conclude the strike was about money that's your kettle of fish.
tell okonjo to start printing money for 2015

residents are unhappy with the way the strike was called of.
it was pure politics played well by the FG but in every war sacrifices have to be made.
Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by phantom(m): 9:07am On Aug 24, 2014
pazienza:


Phantom, on the last part of your post. Did NMA win that battle of sole ownership of consultancy and CMDs in the hospitals?

its in court. so its on hold
UCH had to revert directors back
no be everything person go talk.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by sainty2k3(m): 9:07am On Aug 24, 2014
Exmay: Sorry Bro, but we can't adequately proof that johesu is useless. This pple will lock everything Up including ur Steth and ur pen torch (if u forgot to take it along with U) when they go on strike...
And the will amount to thugery . smiley

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by armadeo(m): 9:09am On Aug 24, 2014
Nigerians.


Interesting people interesting nation.
Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by rhymz(m): 9:09am On Aug 24, 2014
thegeneral84:
I'm most certain the tests you request for yourself are usually malaria and typhoid (widal) tests, maybe a sugar and urine test and you think you've got it all covered. Hope you know Widal test has been abandoned since the 1990s because its result is ambiguous? You obviously haven't been really sick because then, you will discovered how incomplete and not-so-useful those tests would be without a proper medical history(which is elucidated by Doctors because a patient may think a symptom is not relevant to the illness but a Doctor tallies all those together). To further demonstrate the place of lab tests in a patients management; ideally (eg in exams) a Doctor should not interpret a lab result unless s/he has a medical history of the said patient. Also, a lab result which is not in keeping with the clinical state of the patient ( as assessed by the Doctor) is either rejected or repeated. The above examples are standards of clinical practice. Thus, the lab result is just an aid to the Doctor's clinical assessment and NEVER a replacement to clinical assessment. In situations where lab results and clinical assessment contradict each other, clinical assessment supervenes.
What a very misleading claim. Very misleading. The so-called medical history is mostly results from lab tests the doctor use in evaluating the patient. There is no such thing as a medical history without proper lab tests and results from such. So please slow your roll, everyone is equally as important don't try to make it look like a doctor is the alpha and omega in the treatment of patients, they won't even work without confirmations from lab test results. You obviously do not know what you are talking about or are exaggerating the importance of a doc.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by phantom(m): 9:11am On Aug 24, 2014
to my colleagues here.I implore you to not go into detail on the achievements here.
we musnt reveal everything.this is an open forum.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by McStoic(m): 9:11am On Aug 24, 2014
njokusboy:

Guy, you think like a clown.... a consultant is an expert in a field, by definition, a consultant is someone who provides expert advice professionally... except you are saying only doctors have the right to become experts...
There is nothing wrong with having a consultant nurse or a consultant pharmacists as long as they have attained a certain level of Expertise...
Look how slow you are, the lab scientists test for illnesses not Doctors, I remember how I almost died in 2009 because one doctor was just assuming diseases that were not there, it was until I went for a proper checkup that I realized I'd been treating the wrong sickness, these days I simply go to the lab, get a test result and proceed to the pharmacy... pharmacists make those drugs, mind you.... not doctors..
All this chestbeating is complete nonsense, everyone is equally important in the Medical Field, the Doctors' resolve to suppress and subjugate other medical practitioners is really misguided... The main grouse I have with these doctors is that 90% of them attended Federal Government Institutions, meaning, they were basically trained for FREE, did you get that, TRAINED FOR FREE... As student, they are already earning more than most workers in the civil service yet they come and start talking Trash... Let them not suspend the strike so people can keep dying, it's a business venture, the Hippocratic oath doesn't mean Jack.. Profit is the optimum goal, most of them have private Hospitals where they charge exorbitant prices anyway...
"JOHESU are keenly watching the situation" Okonjo Iweala...........Whatsoever demands The FG meets, let it be known that calling back the resident doctors better be predicated on a level playing field. Returning to status quo by total, continual sponsoring of the resident doctors means other paramedicals must be carried along.. I laugh when these petty NMA keyboard warriors in Nairaland fail to see the bigger picture! Your tails have just been cut off. JOHESU are patiently waiting for the final outcome of the so called negotiations.

The crux of the matter is that if the FG must continue total sponsoring of the resident doctors unlike what obtains in other climes, then it means others health professionals like the Pharmacists, Med Lad Scientists must be carried along. The financial implications is gonna be hellish and that's were your waterloo lies. I guess you escapists haven't fathomed that? Hmmmmm........am laughing in Sinhalese. Make we just dey watch dey go.

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Re: NMA suspends strike.....Live Update Of NMA Emergency Delegate Meeting At Abuja. by McStoic(m): 9:19am On Aug 24, 2014
phantom:

my man calm down. call any resident in FMC ido ekiti.
if you conclude the strike was about money that's your kettle of fish.
tell okonjo to start printing money for 2015

residents are unhappy with the way the strike was called of.
it was pure politics played well by the FG but in every war sacrifices have to be made.

TELL OKONJO TO START PRINTING MONEY FOR 2015!! Chaiiiii! I thought you guys claim to be compendium of every knowledge. Economics 101 (Inflation) anyone? Na wa oooo. I just laugh because after all said and done, the permanent staffs ala consultants are just using you residents. You are now talking about sacrifices? I thought you guys have the power to hold the government to random? FG 7 : Joketors 0......... Lol.

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