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How Is Shares Calculated by aboyaji(m): 6:51am On Sep 03, 2014
i would appreciate if somebody or group of persons help teach me/us how shares is being calculated.

I had stumbbled across a write up here that said something about it, but, there happened to be disagreement within the enviroment about this.

My aim is to know my shares' worth. I had bought it since 2010 and i don't know how its measured. And i don't have any paper(s) or document that covers my ownership of the shares as everything is still in the hands of my stockbroker. I just want to be the Boss.
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by Rexphobia(m): 7:28am On Sep 03, 2014
Ask your broker for your CSCS statement, it will show the quantity of shares you have. Then visit FMDQ and get the market value of the shares, multiply this price by the units you have.



The process is called mark to market.
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by haroon313: 9:59am On Sep 03, 2014
Google it, you will surly get your answer...
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by smsgold: 6:08am On Sep 09, 2014
Guaranty Trust bank has not been paying my dividend into my bank acc over a year now. What's d problem pls?
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by aboyaji(m): 6:15am On Sep 10, 2014
Rexphobia: Ask your broker for your CSCS statement, it will show the quantity of shares you have. Then visit FMDQ and get the market value of the shares, multiply this price by the units you have.



The process is called mark to market.
thanks so much. But, why dont you show me an example here so that i will know before going to meet her. Just a little
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by Rexphobia(m): 8:22am On Sep 10, 2014
aboyaji: thanks so much. But, why dont you show me an example here so that i will know before going to meet her. Just a little

No can't do. Client confidentiality
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by aboyaji(m): 8:28am On Sep 10, 2014
Rexphobia:

No can't do. Client confidentiality
ok. Thanks. But, i didnt mean you should show me a client paper. Just a rough hand estimation. Like guessing
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by davide470(m): 11:10pm On Sep 20, 2014
aboyaji: i would appreciate if somebody or group of persons help teach me/us how shares is being calculated.

I had stumbbled across a write up here that said something about it, but, there happened to be disagreement within the enviroment about this.

My aim is to know my shares' worth. I had bought it since 2010 and i don't know how its measured. And i don't have any paper(s) or document that covers my ownership of the shares as everything is still in the hands of my stockbroker. I just want to be the Boss.
The first thing to get from your broker is the ALL-IN charges inclusive of brokerage fees..

For example:

You bought 5000units FBNH at 10.50NGN in 2010, at a charge of 1.5% =

5000 x 10.50 = 52,500

(1.5% of 52500) = 787.5

Total cost = 52500 + 787.5 = 53,287.5 NGN

Now FBNH is at 14NGN, to sell off at a charge of 1.7% =

5000 x 14 = 70,000

(1.7% of 70,000) = 1190

Value = 70,000 - 1190 = 68,810 NGN

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Re: How Is Shares Calculated by veevean1(f): 11:37pm On Sep 20, 2014
davide470: The first thing to get from your broker is the ALL-IN charges inclusive of brokerage fees..

For example:

You bought 5000units FBNH at 10.50NGN in 2010, at a charge of 1.5% =

5000 x 10.50 = 52,500

(1.5% of 52500) = 787.5

Total cost = 52500 + 787.5 = 53,287.5 NGN

Now FBNH is at 14NGN, to sell off at a charge of 1.7% =

5000 x 14 = 70,000

(1.7% of 70,000) = 1190

Value = 70,000 - 1190 = 68,810 NGN
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Re: How Is Shares Calculated by aboyaji(m): 7:18am On Sep 22, 2014
davide470: The first thing to get from your broker is the ALL-IN charges inclusive of brokerage fees..

For example:

You bought 5000units FBNH at 10.50NGN in 2010, at a charge of 1.5% =

5000 x 10.50 = 52,500

(1.5% of 52500) = 787.5

Total cost = 52500 + 787.5 = 53,287.5 NGN

Now FBNH is at 14NGN, to sell off at a charge of 1.7% =

5000 x 14 = 70,000

(1.7% of 70,000) = 1190

Value = 70,000 - 1190 = 68,810 NGN
I don't comprehend. But all the same, I think you did a great explanation
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by petikal(m): 7:30pm On Sep 23, 2014
Shares are calculated in cost per unit + broker's fee.

Broker's fee is usually a percentage of the total unit cost you intend to buy/sell.

Example

Assuming a share costs N10/unit, and you want to purchase 1000units. If the broker's fee is 2% of total unit price, you calculate your total cost like this:

Cost of purchase: 1,000units x N10 = N10,000

Broker's Fee: 2% of N10,000 => (2/100) x N10,000 = N200.

You end up paying: N10,200.

If you wish to sell after awhile, you just do the same maths, except the cost per unit and broker's fee may be different.

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Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 11:49am On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: The first thing to get from your broker is the ALL-IN charges inclusive of brokerage fees..

For example:

You bought 5000units FBNH at 10.50NGN in 2010, at a charge of 1.5% =

5000 x 10.50 = 52,500

(1.5% of 52500) = 787.5

Total cost = 52500 + 787.5 = 53,287.5 NGN

Now FBNH is at 14NGN, to sell off at a charge of 1.7% =

5000 x 14 = 70,000

(1.7% of 70,000) = 1190

Value = 70,000 - 1190 = 68,810 NGN
Very clear. It shows if the rate decreases over the years, the buyer is unlucky. Reminds me of what happened at the NSE before 2010
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by davide470(m): 2:21pm On Sep 24, 2014
destante: Very clear. It shows if the rate decreases over the years, the buyer is unlucky. Reminds me of what happened at the NSE before 2010
Yeah. Hence, the need to pray for favorable 'market'. Were you into stocks before the crash?
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 2:27pm On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: Yeah. Hence, the need to pray for favorable 'market'. Were you into stocks before the crash?
No I had someone who was in it. plus I did a related course.
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by davide470(m): 4:28pm On Sep 24, 2014
destante: No I had someone who was in it. plus I did a related course.
That's cool. Hope the person didn't lose more than he anticipated. Which course exactly, if i may ask so as to get some lectures wink?
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 4:35pm On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: That's cool. Hope the person didn't lose more than he anticipated. Which course exactly, if i may ask so as to get some lectures wink?
Lol it wasn't him who was affected. I did economics at the UI smiley
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by davide470(m): 5:04pm On Sep 24, 2014
destante: Lol it wasn't him who was affected. I did economics at the UI smiley
Ooh! i understand.

Economics..nice, so what do you feel about the MPC rate recently declared by CBN despite inflation?
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 5:06pm On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: Ooh! i understand.

Economics..nice, so what do you feel about the MPC rate recently declared by CBN despite inflation?
Didn't follow that lately but last I checked, it was left at 12 percent yea?
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by davide470(m): 5:12pm On Sep 24, 2014
destante: Didn't follow that lately but last I checked, it was left at 12 percent yea?
Yeah.. MPR @ 12%, Liquidity ratio @ 30%, CRR -(Public) @ 75%, (Private) @ 15%. All quite good at this present point in time, or am i missing some economic indications?
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 5:15pm On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: Yeah.. MPR @ 12%, Liquidity ratio @ 30%, CRR -(Public) @ 75%, (Private) @ 15%. All quite good at this present point in time, or am i missing some economic indications?
Hmm I hope this isn't a show off. smiley Anyways to answer your question, I think inflation will continue to rise above 8.5% as electioneering approaches and the CBN may be forced to loosen the mpc rate. smiley
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by davide470(m): 5:23pm On Sep 24, 2014
destante: Hmm I hope this isn't a show off. smiley Anyways to answer your question, I think inflation will continue to rise above 8.5% as electioneering approaches and the CBN may be forced to loosen the mpc rate. smiley
No, it's not. Had a first degree in an entirely different sector, so am trying to master the ropes. Thanks for that, but what's the maximum value you foresee inflation rate will go this year.

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Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 5:34pm On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: No, it's not. Had a first degree in an entirely different sector, so am trying to master the ropes. Thanks for that, but what's the maximum value you foresee inflation rate will go this year.
oh, nicee. what course was that btw? Anyways u occur as someone who's already mastered the ropes. And I don't see the inflation surpassing the 10% line by year end however. Need to ask too, the NSE ASI has failed to live the 40000 psychological line since Q2 or so. What is your take on it?
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by davide470(m): 5:43pm On Sep 24, 2014
destante: oh, nicee. what course was that btw? Anyways u occur as someone who's already mastered the ropes. And I don't see the inflation surpassing the 10% line by year end however. Need to ask too, the NSE ASI has failed to live the 40000 psychological line since Q2 or so. What is your take on it?
Studied Chemical Engineering.. cry

Well, there is a support level at 40,000 basis point with the Year high being 43,039 and low as 37,136. (Actually closed 40,809 with a gain of 0.67% today)Note, the market has gained about 99% twice in the past 2 years and it closing slightly below 40,000 pts at the end of the year is foreseen.
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 5:51pm On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: Studied Chemical Engineering.. cry

Well, there is a support level at 40,000 basis point with the Year high being 43,039 and low as 37,136. (Actually closed 40,809 with a gain of 0.67% today)Note, the market has gained about 99% twice in the past 2 years and it closing slightly below 40,000 pts at the end of the year is foreseen.
Chem engine? *faints
Yes the market gained too much last year. I think it was the best performing in Africa or so. The excess of last year can act as a buffer for this years non performance.
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by davide470(m): 5:56pm On Sep 24, 2014
destante: Chem engine? *faints
Yes the market gained too much last year. I think it was the best performing in Africa or so. The excess of last year can act as a buffer for this years non performance.
Yeah, very true. couple with the facts at hand: Elections, Insecurity and low foreign participation.
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 5:58pm On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: Studied Chemical Engineering.. cry

Well, there is a support level at 40,000 basis point with the Year high being 43,039 and low as 37,136. (Actually closed 40,809 with a gain of 0.67% today)Note, the market has gained about 99% twice in the past 2 years and it closing slightly below 40,000 pts at the end of the year is foreseen.
Also, I would love a situation where more companies can list on the market so that it serves as a better reflection of the economy. JSE is about six times bigger than our market and the economy isn't even as big undecided
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by davide470(m): 6:03pm On Sep 24, 2014
destante: Also, I would love a situation where more companies can list on the market so that it serves as a better reflection of the economy. JSE is about six times bigger than our market and the economy isn't even as big undecided
Yeah, more companies especially those in the E & P sector plan to list soon, as they have seen the success of Seplat's listing. Even Heritage Bank promises too, after their acquisition of Enterprise Bank tho.
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 6:11pm On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: Yeah, more companies especially those in the E & P sector plan to list soon, as they have seen the success of Seplat's listing. Even Heritage Bank promises too, after their acquisition of Enterprise Bank tho.
Yea but seplat is in the oil and gas right? I think that attributed to the success. Learnt about heritage's acquisition too. A small bank that is now promising with index branches in Lagos and Ibadan. Companies in the telecoms sector should list. We know that services generally contribute over 50% of the economy and these companies take a huge share. It can buoy the NSE largely. Do you think they should be forced to list?
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 6:11pm On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: Yeah, more companies especially those in the E & P sector plan to list soon, as they have seen the success of Seplat's listing. Even Heritage Bank promises too, after their acquisition of Enterprise Bank tho.
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by destante(f): 6:11pm On Sep 24, 2014
davide470: Yeah, more companies especially those in the E & P sector plan to list soon, as they have seen the success of Seplat's listing. Even Heritage Bank promises too, after their acquisition of Enterprise Bank tho.
Yea but seplat is in the oil and gas right? I think that attributed to the success. Learnt about heritage's acquisition too. A small bank that is now promising with index branches in Lagos and Ibadan. Companies in the telecoms sector should list. We know that services generally contribute over 50% of the economy and these companies take a huge share. It can buoy the NSE largely. Do you think they should be forced to list?
Re: How Is Shares Calculated by davide470(m): 6:16pm On Sep 24, 2014
destante: Yea but seplat is in the oil and gas right? I think that attributed to the success. Learnt about heritage's acquisition too. A small bank that is now promising with index branches in Lagos and Ibadan. Companies in the telecoms sector should list. We know that services generally contribute over 50% of the economy and these companies take a huge share. It can buoy the NSE largely. Do you think they should be forced to list?
Yeah, Seplat is Oil and Gas. The people behind the 'small' bank has the money and are willing to spend it. As for services, well, you can't force anyone but can only lure them with good incentives, which is non-available based on the rating of the market.

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