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Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by ArtanK(m): 8:04pm On Sep 05, 2014 |
A reclusive figure with a love of poetry, Ahmed Abdi Godane became a feared jihadist, running assassination and bomb squads in Somalia. http://m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29034409 Good riddance 4 Likes |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by kadas01(m): 9:18pm On Sep 05, 2014 |
Good news!! 2 Likes |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by Nobody: 3:15am On Sep 06, 2014 |
Good riddance indeed. 1 Like |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by adamskutty(m): 8:19am On Sep 06, 2014 |
Where is his pictures nau? This guy bad pass shekau o |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by GuyFawkes: 11:57am On Sep 06, 2014 |
Well this is nice, but it's hardly going to save Somalia or put an end to fundamentalist terrorism, even locally. Some psycho will step into Godane's smoking shoes, and shabab will get right back to slaughtering and maiming innocents, raping children, and all the other horrors they think their god commands. So what really needs to be done is step up the attacks against shabab and all such groups. When they stop to cook dinner, crater the campsite, whether top leaders are there or not. It'd be nice if mainstream Islam could take care of this problem itself, but clearly it's not up for it, and it's not having its vital rational reformation quite yet. So in the meantime, all that can be done is bury every fundamentalist terrorist we see. For Somalia as a whole, it'll probably take a combined international effort to get control of it, and then fund Ethiopia or Kenya so they can absorb the country and try to nurse it back to health. Unfortunately that probably won't happen, as Somalia is roughly completely worthless. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by ArtanK(m): 4:16pm On Sep 06, 2014 |
GuyFawkes: Well this is nice, but it's hardly going to save Somalia or put an end to fundamentalist terrorism, even locally. Some psycho will step into Godane's smoking shoes, and shabab will get right back to slaughtering and maiming innocents, raping children, and all the other horrors they think their god commands. In 2010, Alshabab controlled all of south and central Somalia including the 16 districts of the capital. Today they control less than 10% of the country and they are losing land every day. They've now turned to cowardly attacks and suicide bombings, so clearly we are getting something right here. Mainstream Islam does address and condemn extremism on a daily basis but news like that don't make popular headlines as the ones where Muslims are the culprits of gruesome terrorist attacks. We thank the AU soldiers for their help but tbf, they have decided to put down the gun, collect the hefty paychecks and enjoy the breezy beaches in Mogadishu as if they are on a holiday. I'd like to think that I speak for the SomalI people when I say that I can't wait till they leave in 2016. What we need is unity and reconciliation. Entrusting them to improve the Somali nation when 90% of the Somali population harbour deep distrust and enmity towards these two countries is a stupid idea. Somalia has the potential to become an African superpower, sadly it's neighbours see their downfall in that and they've been undermining it ever since it came to existence in 1960. 3 Likes |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by ArtanK(m): 4:17pm On Sep 06, 2014 |
adamskutty: Where is his pictures nau? This guy bad pass shekau o |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by Nobody: 4:18am On Sep 07, 2014 |
@guyfawkes To be completely frank, the fact that you even suggested Ethiopia and Kenya be given funds to "nurse the country back to health" tells me all I need to know about what little you know (about the history, country, conflict, and region politics & ETC). Your hydra-headed monster observation of fundamentalism is spot on. I'd like to think of this as a center-head take out, he was pretty important. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by GuyFawkes: 9:27am On Sep 07, 2014 |
ArtanK: Even ignoring the question whether the US - whose meddling in Somalia led to the replacement of the more moderate Islamic Courts movements by Al Shahab in the first place - has any right at all to kill people there, we should be clear that doing so is purely a symbolic act. In the US, it symbolizes the fake toughness of the imperial warrior, designed by the government to signify that it deals with the terror threat it simultaneously creates, exaggerates, and uses to instill fear and hence malleability in the domestic population. In Somalia and beyond, it symbolizes the arrogance of US power and control - and will thus encourage more people to support even the worst organizations if only they fight that power. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by adamskutty(m): 9:49am On Sep 07, 2014 |
ArtanK:alshabab have appointed a new leader |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by GuyFawkes: 9:52am On Sep 07, 2014 |
EnlightenedSoul: @guyfawkes To be completely frank, the fact that you even suggested Ethiopia and Kenya be given funds to "nurse the country back to health" tells me all I need to know about what little you know (about the history, country, conflict, and region politics & ETC). Your hydra-headed monster observation of fundamentalism is spot on. I'd like to think of this as a center-head take out, he was pretty important. You are right,maybe I don't know a thing about the history,politics,and conflicts of that region but my suggestions where written with a a bit of sarcasm in my mind,og course I know Ethiopia and Kenya have further escalated the conflicts at different times in the past and present. This whole business of killing the leaders may be highly overrated. The Israeli's have been doing it since 1948, and they still have a terrorism problem. The big risk, as we have seen with IS leader leader al-Baghdadi, is that the new boss may be more capable than the old boss. Just as in an American corporation, the guy at the top may be pretty old and stale, and some new guy who has been fighting his way up the ladder may be, not only far more capable, but more vicious as well. He was very important but do you think it'll diminish al shabbab? |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by adamskutty(m): 1:06pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
Yusuf! The donkeys have appointed a new leader Nobleval: The Somali militant |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by ArtanK(m): 3:29pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
GuyFawkes: You're right, USA's involvement radicalised the UIC and it prompted the birth of Alshabab. Despite all the chaos the US has caused in that region, people would still prefer to see the death of Alshabab altogether than oppose the west for their two-faced approach. The Somali population know that joining terrorist organisations is not the answer to their problems. It's just a matter of time before they elect a competent government that won't sell them out to the west to the west. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by ArtanK(m): 3:35pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
GuyFawkes: It won't end them that's for sure but it will certainly weaken them. I find it very odd that as soon as the big oil companies return to Somalia, everything seems to go the right way. Just a thought. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by ArtanK(m): 3:35pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
adamskutty: Yusuf! The donkeys have appointed a new leader I know, they won't give up that easy bro |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by GuyFawkes: 9:05pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
ArtanK: That's true though about the oil,but you'll have to ask the chinese about that,they have everything to gain as they are the ones on ground ready to do some oil exploration. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by Nobody: 9:37pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
GuyFawkes: I don't think the Israeli and Al-Baghdadi situations you mentioned rightly align with the issue of Alshabab. If this would've happened back in their prime, I wouldn't have thought it significant. However, considering their weakened state and coupling their significant loss of control/influence both in land area and numbers, as well as losing both a powerful leader plus an interim leader could signal some sort of downward spiral. Perhaps that's a bit optimistic. It wouldn't be smart to underestimate. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by ArtanK(m): 11:31pm On Sep 07, 2014 |
GuyFawkes: American companies such as Chevron, Conoco Phillips and ExxonMobil are there too, apparently they cut deals with Siad Barre before the civil war. Everyone wants a piece of this cake |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by GuyFawkes: 12:07am On Sep 08, 2014 |
ArtanK:Unfortunately oil will only bring more conflicts just as it has in other parts of Africa,the next bunch of ' freedom fighters' are going to be fighting for resource control,who knows maybe al shabbab will join the party then as there's lots of money to be made. Hence conflict is inevitable because that piece of cake never goes round. But I expect the chinese to get most of the contracts to build up the infrastructure in Somalia they've been pretty good with that in African countries. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by ArtanK(m): 1:13am On Sep 08, 2014 |
GuyFawkes: Freedom fighters disguised under the banner of their clan lol they wouldn't care about Alshabab as long as their clan gets it all. If it was up to me I'd focus on agriculture and green energy instead. South Somalia alone could feed up to 150 million yet that is the region that is mostly affected by the ever increasing droughts and famines. The north of Somalia has huge potential for wind and solar energy, especially near the gulf of Aden. As dark as things may look I'm actually optimistic about the future. The Chinese are the last people I'd want to see in Somalia. They'd ship in everything and anything from China instead of buying from the locals. The Turks are building up the infrastructure as far as I know and in return they landed oil exploration contracts in the northern regions. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by Nobody: 7:50pm On Sep 08, 2014 |
Artan, isn't it so freakin' ironic how many of the AlShabab leaders are actually Landers? |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by ArtanK(m): 10:15pm On Sep 08, 2014 |
EnlightenedSoul: Artan, isn't so freakin' ironic how many of the AlShabab leaders are actually Landers? I know, a lot of people have been saying that Alshabab is funded by S/land because they benefit the most from the chaos in the south. I find it very interesting how Alshabab kills religious leaders, government officials and civilians across all Somali lands apart from S/Land. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by Nobody: 11:23pm On Sep 08, 2014 |
ArtanK: Wow, you're right of course. I hadn't even thought of that smh. I just noticed that Godane and some of the other high level leaders have been from Hargeisa. Landers sometimes |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by ArtanK(m): 12:41am On Sep 09, 2014 |
EnlightenedSoul: Remember the terrorist attack in Djib City? The suspects were all from Hargeisa. |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by Nobody: 12:56am On Sep 09, 2014 |
ArtanK: I remember. Damn... |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by TerryCarr(m): 10:43pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Re: Ahmed Abdi Godane: Somalia's 'dead' Al-shabab Leader by Maakhir(m): 1:34pm On Jan 19, 2015 |
Alxamdullilah |
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