Freest:
Oristejafor without the church or can is just any other citizen. And my point is, we need the church/can as a body that has a say in Nigeria politics. The point is not Oristejafor but can. The Christian body!!!

berem: I have not heard of any Emir or even the Sultan of Sokoto play partisan politics the way Ayotallah Bin Oritsejafor does. Since when SLS became Emir of Kano,have you heard him meddle in political affairs?

berem: follow follow!

berem: I have not heard of any Emir or even the Sultan of Sokoto play partisan politics the way Ayotallah Bin Oritsejafor does. Since when SLS became Emir of Kano,have you heard him meddle in political affairs?

OgologoDimkpa:
When last did you egift preach to someone to repent too?
Preaching does not rest on the pastors alone. You can as well do it therefore you have no point.
Good to know he does not lease his JET for Boko haram attack as some of your progenitors are currently doing

omerta: C.A.N was influential and can still be, but not by romancing with polithiefcians. Let's agree with you; C.A.N should support Jonathan now. But what would its fate after Jonathan leaves office? Look for another government to ally with? Get relegated to background? What?

omerta: C.A.N was influential and can still be, but not by romancing with polithiefcians. Let's agree with you; C.A.N should support Jonathan now. But what would its fate after Jonathan leaves office? Look for another government to ally with? Get relegated to background? What?

brownlords:

It's either you've been blind or deaf,

So you mean emir and and sultan don't involve in politics?

Freest:
You made some great points and I've come to understand some of your views...
6. Investigation shows he didn't smuggle neither was he a part of it. He only gave his jet on business ish...
5. I made my point when i quoted that at this time in Nigeria politics, i believe it cant be seperated from religion. 'I THINK PERSONALLY THAT NIGERIA POLITICS IS MORE RELIGION INSPIRED' simply with what is happening all over, i think its expedient the Christian body still has a part or a say in politics although not the way it is being handled by can President.
4. This is Nigeria politics, there is bound to be rumours and conspiracy. There is no one that meddles who isn't rubbed off with something just to stain his name. To calm a mad man you must touch him, you must get stained in the process, so that is expected.
3. I support you in that. He should be fair and not party oriented nor have any link or supporting party.

Freest:
Omerta i get your point and you are right. I think inasmuch as C.A.N shouldn't be party oriented cos i dont advice that either, but it should be neutral in its mission to government. In its decisions, and sense of judgement. They should have a voice, even though not in accordance with any party. Atleast they should be a determining factor in politics, policies, and developments for the citizens (Not just Christian)

berem: I have not heard of any Emir or even the Sultan of Sokoto play partisan politics the way Ayotallah Bin Oritsejafor does. Since when SLS became Emir of Kano,have you heard him meddle in political affairs?

OgologoDimkpa:
When last did you egift preach to someone to repent too?
Preaching does not rest on the pastors alone. You can as well do it therefore you have no point.
Good to know he does not lease his JET for Boko haram attack as some of your progenitors are currently doing

berem: mumu,I am talking about partisan politics.

egift:

A a Christian, I get involved get involved in church outreach programmes. And a Web Developer, I am assisting churches get a website to help them expand their reach in spreading the gospel of Christ. How much more Ayo who is a Minister.

And you should hide your face in shame for minimizing Ayo's duty to preach salvation to a pitch against me.

OgologoDimkpa:
Don't mind them jare!

This thread is nothing but another Boko Haram sympathisers thread .
You'll only find APshit members spewing rubbish here.

egift:

I understand and appreciate all your views.

Let me point out that as CAN President, Ayo should be a Spiritual Leader not a political jobber.

Here is Jonathan and Sambo waiting for the Oba of Benin


Here is President Obama bowing to the Japanese Emperor Akihito
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Ayo do not have to become Jonathan's errand boy and facilitate money laundry to have the respect and attention of the President

brownlords:

It's either you've been blind or deaf,

So you mean emir and and sultan don't involve in politics?

brownlords:

If the emir and sultan where neutral, We won't be fighting insurgency, you can cry all you want, the Man is the head of CAN nothing you can do about it, if you are Christian and you can't tolerate it then become Muslim or pegan. Nonsense

Freest: This money laundering you are hammering on, i really want you to logically look into facts plus you don't make decisions on speculation especially not this season of politicised media...

ntyce:

Pls give an instance where the Sultan has shown to be political.
A smart religious leader will learn to stay away from politics. It's dirty, very very dirty.
Oritsejafor has been stained by the dirty waters.
I am sure it will be in the constitution of CAN that the society be apolitical.

If he has interest, he should resign and play along.
I await him disclosing his PDP party id card.

ntyce:

Pls give an instance where the Sultan has shown to be political.
A smart religious leader will learn to stay away from politics. It's dirty, very very dirty.
Oritsejafor has been stained by the dirty waters.
I am sure it will be in the constitution of CAN that the society be apolitical.

If he has interest, he should resign and play along.
I await him disclosing his PDP party id card.

omerta: You don't get it, do you?
No one asked Oritsejafor not to participate in politics. Of course, he is free to. But not in the capacity as C.A.N president. Not by releasing personal attacks in disguise of a press statement under the umbrella of C.A.N. Oritsejafor should separate his political self from the Church, and not insult the institution... Grab?

egift:

Here the facts my friend:
- It not his Plane that was used for smuggling.
- This is not the first time he is hiring out his plane.
- The jet was donated to him. Till date he has not come clean on who gave it to him.
- How do we know that the smugglers are not the ones who bought the jet initially? And thereby using the good name of CAN Presidency to clean up their illegal business. In return, Mr. Ayo gets to have a free plane ride.
- And don't tell us Mr. Ayo hire out his Jet on a "No Question Asked Policy".

Let me assure you, for Mr. Ayo and and Jonathan to bury this evil of smuggling will require many truck load of lies.

Freest:
A smart religious leader... So they've just been smart. One man i know has been a major say in Nigeria politics, ranging from Governorship elections to top decisions is the sultan. The sultan had somuch power. What made General Sanni Abacha sack Alhaji Ahmed Dasuki, the then Sultan of Sokoto and replaced him It was because he was close to IBB then and Abacha had ckues that he was involved in the coup that took place in 1985 that brought IBB to power and still had this link with IBB he didn't trust.
And by the way, its just being hyped because it involves CAN/CHRISTIANs...

Freest:
Yeah... Same plane in all
Now, he was bought a jet and you expect him to come out and declare the donor You guys should just tell him to come and declare his assets, declare his HIV status, declare how many times he has sex with his wife...
And by the way, as do every Nigerian, he has right to run businesses that includes hiring his jet for Private/public use. When you lend your car out, do you monitor who it carries?
That ain't your business!!! Neither is it his in respect of his jet!!!

atlwireles:

You are dealing with pretenders, once upon a time in this country, the Sultan could make you want ever you wanted to be. That's why you have people called Aghogho mohammed Akporaro. Pastor Ayo has not only changed that equation, CAN is no more the left hand of the National Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs NSCIA . They are pissed, what else is new.

egift: Why Ayo Should Stop Meddling Into Politics:
1. His position as CAN President bestows on him "the spiritual leader of Nigerian Christians".
2. I support the separation of Church and State. I don't want any politician spending 2 Trillion Naira and tell us he was directed by the Holy Spirit.
3. By pestering one Political Party or a Politician and attacking the Opposition, Mr Ayo has lost his Neutrality and significance. Remembers all the Christians in Nigeria are not in one political Party.
4. His Blings, politics of coins and sucking up politicians - makes his less "Christ-like" but more Worldly and in contradiction to most core aspects of Christianity.
5. The President of CAN is a respected Spiritual Father - not a political jobber and tout.
6. Revelation 21:8 was very clear that all "illegal arms smugglers" will have their part in the lake of fire.

Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor (as CAN President) has no reason what so ever to meddle in Partisan Politics.

Demdem:

[s](6) inotherwords the bling bling Pastor will rot in hell[/s].

Freest:
Thats true... There was a time when the sultan endorses candidates... And whosoever he endorses, wins, and that was final. Now things habe changed they crying wolf!!!

Demdem:

(6) inotherwords the bling bling Pastor will rot in hell.