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Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by nairacountry(m): 1:00pm On Jan 10, 2015
I did work on my exhaust when I travelled out of my base this past Yuletide. To my disappointment, my Honda V6 1998 model which had no issues before couldn't start! I scanned and it threw d ffg codes:
*P1607- ECM/PCM internal circuit malfctn
*P0108- Manifold Absolute Pressure / Barometric Pressure circuit High
*P0117 & P0118- Engine Coolant Temp Sensor 1 circuit Low & High
*P0123- Throttle/Pedal Position sensor/switch A circuit High
*P0113- Intake Air Temp sensor 1 circuit high
*P1498- EGR Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve Position sensor circuit high voltage.

After much efforts by some mechs, an auto electrician (re-wire) did earth one of d 2 wires on d temperature sensor (pix attached) & unplug one of d 02sensors on d exhaust b4 d car could start.
I drove d car within Ibadan town for 3days before I embarked on d journey back to my base; Abuja. The journey was smooth as there were no issues wit d car. D few issues I detected were dat: 1. D car idle was poor for d 1st 1/2mins in d morning (d rpm wont rise atall in d first 10secs then rise above 1 b4 gradually coming to .4 withing d first 1/2mins) 2. It's fuel consumption noticeably rises
3. D rpm reaches btw 4/5 b4 changing gear from 1 to 2.AUTO Transmission.

Pls any help on wat I can do to make my car function as it used to.

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Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by nairacountry(m): 1:05pm On Jan 10, 2015
D pix

Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by GAZZUZZ(m): 3:12pm On Jan 10, 2015
P1607- ECM/PCM internal circuit malfctn

You might have to replace engine ecm.(Brainbox)
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by ZIMDRILL(m): 4:03pm On Jan 10, 2015
nairacountry:
I did work on my exhaust when I travelled out of my base this past Yuletide. To my disappointment, my Honda V6 1998 model which had no issues before couldn't start! I scanned and it threw d ffg codes:
*P1607- ECM/PCM internal circuit malfctn
*P0108- Manifold Absolute Pressure / Barometric Pressure circuit High
*P0117 & P0118- Engine Coolant Temp Sensor 1 circuit Low & High
*P0123- Throttle/Pedal Position sensor/switch A circuit High
*P0113- Intake Air Temp sensor 1 circuit high
*P1498- EGR Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve Position sensor circuit high voltage.

After much efforts by some mechs, an auto electrician (re-wire) did earth one of d 2 wires on d temperature sensor (pix attached) & unplug one of d 02sensors on d exhaust b4 d car could start.
I drove d car within Ibadan town for 3days before I embarked on d journey back to my base; Abuja. The journey was smooth as there were no issues wit d car. D few issues I detected were dat: 1. D car idle was poor for d 1st 1/2mins in d morning (d rpm wont rise atall in d first 10secs then rise above 1 b4 gradually coming to .4 withing d first 1/2mins) 2. It's fuel consumption noticeably rises
3. D rpm reaches btw 4/5 b4 changing gear from 1 to 2.AUTO Transmission.

Pls any help on wat I can do to make my car function as it used to.

SOMETHING HAPPENED TO TRIGGER ALL THOSE CODES AT ONCE

TRY THIS CLEAR THE CODES AND DRIVE AND SEE IF THEY COME BACK
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by mayor2013: 3:25am On Jan 11, 2015
Prepare for anoda ECU. Who did that wiring job for you am seeing in the picture. Just prepare enough money because more Acradabada has been done. grin am very sure you have black suite coming out of your exhaust
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by DECOtech(m): 9:22am On Jan 11, 2015
nairacountry:

*P1607- ECM/PCM internal circuit malfctn

Solely for sake of the above code, you should replace your ECM and all other things shall be automatically taken care of.
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by nairacountry(m): 1:39pm On Jan 11, 2015
My oga Gazzuzz tans for ur usual prompt response. Pls how much wil d braibox be 98 v6 babyboy n do u know any good mech dat can do a thorough job 4me in abuja?

Zimdrill sir, yes i suspected d panel guy didnt remove d ba3 heads while welding d exhaust (i wasnt there) n im sure d mechs removed one/two sensors while d ignitions is ON(i was there)
I cleared d code couple of times but d checklight wil come on back within seconds.

Mayor2013 lol. Honestly it was d abracadabra (d wire work and removal of 1 of d two 02 sensor) dat stopped d black smoke n make d car drive even from d panel biter shop. Beside d sluggish gear selection,early morning rpm malfunctioning cum d increase in fuel consumption, u wont know d car isnt ok.

Tanx decotech, will replacing d ecu/bbox solve all or atleast 95perc of d wahala? Will d car be able tofunctions as it was b4 d codes came up?
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by DECOtech(m): 2:15pm On Jan 11, 2015
nairacountry:

Tanx decotech, will replacing d ecu/bbox solve all or atleast 95perc of d wahala? Will d car be able tofunctions as it was b4 d codes came up?

Most hopefully; because then, your techs wld be able to acertively determine other existing problem areas.
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by ZIMDRILL(m): 2:25pm On Jan 11, 2015
nairacountry:
My oga Gazzuzz tans for ur usual prompt response. Pls how much wil d braibox be 98 v6 babyboy n do u know any good mech dat can do a thorough job 4me in abuja?

Zimdrill sir, yes i suspected d panel guy didnt remove d ba3 heads while welding d exhaust (i wasnt there) n im sure d mechs removed one/two sensors while d ignitions is ON(i was there)
I cleared d code couple of times but d checklight wil come on back within seconds.

Mayor2013 lol. Honestly it was d abracadabra (d wire work and removal of 1 of d two 02 sensor) dat stopped d black smoke n make d car drive even from d panel biter shop. Beside d sluggish gear selection,early morning rpm malfunctioning cum d increase in fuel consumption, u wont know d car isnt ok.

Tanx decotech, will replacing d ecu/bbox solve all or atleast 95perc of d wahala? Will d car be able tofunctions as it was b4 d codes came up?

the check engine came back and what codes came back ?
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by nairacountry(m): 3:44pm On Jan 11, 2015
Wao! I rescaned just now,it shows just 2codes as against 7/8 it had been b4 now
1. P1607 ECM/PCM internal circuit malfunctn
2. Engine coolant temp sensor 1 circuit high
@ my boss Zimdrills.

@ boss Dec0tech, any help on getting original BBox of d said car in abuja n goog tech to fix?
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:11pm On Jan 11, 2015
nairacountry:
Wao! I rescaned just now,it shows just 2codes as against 7/8 it had been b4 now
1. P1607 ECM/PCM internal circuit malfunctn
2. Engine coolant temp sensor 1 circuit high
@ my boss Zimdrills.

@ boss Dec0tech, any help on getting original BBox of d said car in abuja n goog tech to fix?

Have your ecm opened. I'm sure there's a partial contact or a broken circuit. Its possibly a fixable problem also possible water got into the ecm. When you are done remove that wire that is grounded and connect properly an re-test.
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by ZIMDRILL(m): 8:49pm On Jan 11, 2015
nairacountry:
Wao! I rescaned just now,it shows just 2codes as against 7/8 it had been b4 now
1. P1607 ECM/PCM internal circuit malfunctn
2. Engine coolant temp sensor 1 circuit high
@ my boss Zimdrills.

@ boss Dec0tech, any help on getting original BBox of d said car in abuja n goog tech to fix?

it looks like the ECM was damage due to the d.i.y of the engine temp sensor being rewired most likely 12volts was directed back to ECM through one of the wires of the engine temp sensor

i cant remember a faulty engine temp sensor causing a car not to start
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by GAZZUZZ(m): 9:10pm On Jan 11, 2015
ZIMDRILL:


i cant remember a faulty engine temp sensor causing a car not to start

Cold start would be almost impossible in most cars.
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by ZIMDRILL(m): 9:23pm On Jan 11, 2015
GAZZUZZ:


Cold start would be almost impossible in most cars.

Yap thats true

hence my suspicion on the engine temp sensor, 12 volts was connected to it and it went straight to the ECM, in the process the sensor got damaged and so was the ECM and now both are being recording as being faulty
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by GAZZUZZ(m): 10:16pm On Jan 11, 2015
ZIMDRILL:


Yap thats true

hence my suspicion on the engine temp sensor, 12 volts was connected to it and it went straight to the ECM, in the process the sensor got damaged and so was the ECM and now both are being recording as being faulty

OP remove the ground wire connected to the temp sensor, connect normaly clear codes and re- scan car, who can know the 12v(-) might be causing the ecm code.
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by ZIMDRILL(m): 10:45pm On Jan 11, 2015
GAZZUZZ:


OP remove the ground wire connected to the temp sensor, connect normaly clear codes and re- scan car, who can know the 12v(-) might be causing the ecm code.

i never know

most temp sensors i know either use the engine body as the negative and only one wire from wiring harnes to connect to the sensor or it has wires that come from the wiring harnes

have never came across a one that you have to physically connect the earth wire (negative/ -12v)

check the photos

Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by nairacountry(m): 11:06pm On Jan 11, 2015
ZIMDRILL:

i cant remember a faulty engine temp sensor causing a car not to start

The car wld actually start but giving rising and falling RPM. also misfiring until d ground wire was done. One of d 02 sensors was disconnected from d exhaust b4 d car could fire ok wit no black smoke.

GAZZUZZ:

OP remove the ground wire connected to the temp sensor, connect normaly clear codes and re- scan car, who can know the 12v(-) might be causing the ecm code.
Ok sir. I wil try if i can do this morrow. Thanks sososo much sirs
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by nairacountry(m): 11:13pm On Jan 11, 2015
ZIMDRILL:

i never know
most temp sensors i know either use the engine body as the negative and only one wire from wiring harnes to connect to the sensor or it has wires that come from the wiring harnes
have never came across a one that you have to physically connect the earth wire (negative/ -12v)
check the photos

This has 2 wires. Itwas one of d wires cut and joined d yellow one u see in my pix as elongation. The tech guy talk about d sensor '.....was/wasnt returning' so d grounding of d wire
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by ZIMDRILL(m): 11:14pm On Jan 11, 2015
nairacountry:


The car wld actually start but giving rising and falling RPM. also misfiring until d ground wire was done. One of d 02 sensors was disconnected from d exhaust b4 d car could fire ok wit no black smoke.


Ok sir. I wil try if i can do this morrow. Thanks sososo much sirs

a faulty MAP SENSOR would cause that hence you had the code P0108- Manifold Absolute Pressure / Barometric Pressure circuit High
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by ZIMDRILL(m): 11:21pm On Jan 11, 2015
nairacountry:


This has 2 wires. Itwas one of d wires cut and joined d yellow one u see in my pix as elongation. The tech guy talk about d sensor '.....was/wasnt returning' so d grounding of d wire

what was done on that area that he had to cut the wire to make it longer ?
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by GAZZUZZ(m): 6:47am On Jan 12, 2015
nairacountry:


The car wld actually start but giving rising and falling RPM. also misfiring until d ground wire was done. One of d 02 sensors was disconnected from d exhaust b4 d car could fire ok wit no black smoke.


Ok sir. I wil try if i can do this morrow. Thanks sososo much sirs

This is what happened to your car.

House please pay attention to what I'm about I write so you don't fall prey to ecm killing panel beaters.


Oxygen sensor

This device has 4wires one is ground(-) the other is 12+, and 2 other wires that. Run straight to the ecm. As you know an oxygen sensor generates its own voltage when it gets hot and this provides the signals the ecu uses to determine if the car is running rich (higher voltage signal) or lean (lower voltage signal) when you panel beater removed your exhaust, he possibly forgot to un plug your O2 sensor and with when the exhaust dropped the sockets all came out looking like this


Now your sensor has 4wires 2 are coloured black, one white and the other blue, your panelbeater actually just guessed (mini mini miny moe) and re-inserted the pins back randomly which was wrong. In doing so, a signal wire from ecm which is supposed to send 0-0.9v to ecm started receiving a 12v signal.

That is why, when your o2 sensor socket was removed, car started functioning again but the damage was already done.

Solution. Identify the o2 sensor that has the pins in the wrong order and place pins in proper order.

Return all wiring to factory specification

Then replace engine ecm (it is surely fried)


RIP ecm.

Avoid kazeem and if you must, be like me follow him under the car for each step.

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Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by nairacountry(m): 3:57pm On Jan 12, 2015
I'm sure this what happened!
Now to d solution, how much can I get anoda ECM and where? Also who can u recommend for me here in Abuja to do a thorough job as explained by you? Please....
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by Dave1987: 6:45am On Jan 15, 2015
I wonder if it is possible to get these error codes read by a diagnostic system/scan tool, like this honda him diagnostic system
http://www.obd365.com/wholesale/honda-hds-him-diagnostic-tool-with-double-board.html
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by Nobody: 8:46pm On Jan 15, 2015
mayor2013:
Prepare for anoda ECU. Who did that wiring job for you am seeing in the picture. Just prepare enough money because more Acradabada has been done. grin am very sure you have black suite coming out of your exhaust

Abrakadabra by kazeem. cheesy
Re: Pls Help On These Codes (With Pix) by pek(m): 8:21pm On Jan 22, 2015
if you have not gotten the brainbox, contact me

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