bennyrazz:
what does he need to commit the suicide? rope? Rat killer? otapiapia? indosid? tyre? he should just name it and it will be provided within a twinkle of an eye

This is not a place for jokes,no one here is laughing.Nigeria must have made human lives so worthless that your obviously homophobic brain can't see its a human life we are talking about.

bennyrazz:
what does he need to commit the suicide? rope? Rat killer? otapiapia? indosid? tyre? he should just name it and it will be provided within a twinkle of an eye

gun?

lilmax:
gun?

lilmax:
gun?

thank you for reminding me jare GUN(pump action) will do. It would make him travel faster to hell


.our culture our religion is against gays. My judgements and that of those that believe gays are an abomination to the land will never be clouded by some collective few who are rather insensitive. If you are gay, you better seek for asylum to a country where the rights of gays are protected else if I and my people catch you, we will burn you to cleanse the land (jungle justice). There is no room for you/gays in Nigeria.

bennyrazz:
thank you for reminding me jare GUN(pump action) will do. It would make him travel faster to hell


.our culture our religion is against gays. My judgements and that of those that believe gays are an abomination to the land will never be clouded by some collective few who are rather insensitive. If you are gay, you better seek for asylum to a country where the rights of gays are protected else if I and my people catch you, we will burn you to cleanse the land (jungle justice). There is no room for you/gays in Nigeria.

It was once our culture that says we should kill newly born twins, put them in a thick "evil" forest. Until it Mary Slessor came.
Any culture that hurts its own people should be stopped and revisited.
You have decided to block your heart and mind to the homosexuality issues some people of Nigeria face.
May God not block your own maturity and success in your life.

As for jungle justice. As you have said it so casually may you and someone in your generation experience it IJN.

So you just meet someone in whatsapp and start chatting with the person in a country that feels your orientation is punishable. You are not even aftaid for your life, arranging for sex before even getting to know the person. Maybe this is why HIV is so high in the male gay community. Men's natural randyness with similar randy men. Nawa o. OP, next time be very careful. You should calm down, get to know the person and look for someone you can trust and have a relationship with the person. Also try to find a job and move out of the environment as it is not safe for you at the moment. You will get attacked again that is for sure

Dapo777:

http://www.lailasblog.com/2015/01/omg-blog-reader-is-gay-and-wants-to.html?m=1

best tin is to carry ashawo go nak. den d will belive u hv changed

I think he needs to commit emigration not suicide. Emigrate to countries with some gay acceptance.

Scaredsilent:


It was once our culture that says we should kill newly born twins, put them in a thick "evil" forest. Until it Mary Slessor came.
Any culture that hurts its own people should be stopped and revisited.
You have decided to block your heart and mind to the homosexuality issues some people of Nigeria face.
May God not block your own maturity and success in your life.

As for jungle justice. As you have said it so casually may you and someone in your generation experience it IJN.

Gays/homosexuals are abominations before God as it is written in the Bible, in they book of Leviticus 18 vs 22, "thou shall not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination". I see no reason why you should drag God to the thing that God is against. Going down further to verse 29 "For whosoever shall commit any of these abomination, even the souls that commit them shall be cut from among their people" if you support gays, you are like unto them. If you are gay in Nigeria and you are not looking for spiritual help, rather you are looking for who to pollute, you will burn. As for all these curses you posted here against me, it will go back to you in multiple folds in the mighty name of Jesus. it cannot stand because you cannot curse whom God has not cursed. Those that decided to like your comments shall share in your demonic curse in Jesus name. When twins were killed in Nigeria, have Nigerians seen the light then? was it not idolatry your fore fathers were practicing?? have the gospel of Jesus spread just as it is now? you see, now that we know the truth, it has set us free. Is it not insane for man to sleep with another man? and most of you are here spewing jargons

bennyrazz:
Gays/homosexuals are abominations before God as it is written in the Bible, in they book of Leviticus 18 vs 22, "thou shall not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination". I see no reason why you should drag God to the thing that God is against. Going down further to verse 29 "For whosoever shall commit any of these abomination, even the souls that commit them shall be cut from among their people" if you support gays, you are like unto them. If you are gay in Nigeria and you are not looking for spiritual help, rather you are looking for who to pollute, you will burn. As for all these curses you posted here against me, it will go back to you in multiple folds in the mighty name of Jesus. it cannot stand because you cannot curse whom God has not cursed. Those that decided to like your comments shall share in your demonic curse in Jesus name. When twins were killed in Nigeria, have Nigerians seen the light then? was it not idolatry your fore father were practicing?? have the gospel of Jesus spread just as it is now? you see, now that we know the truth, it has set us free. Is it not insane for man to sleep with another man? and most of you are here spewing jargons

Sorry, do you also consider it insane for guy to be effeminate (ie behave in a girly way)?

bennyrazz:
Gays/homosexuals are abominations before God as it is written in the Bible, in they book of Leviticus 18 vs 22, "thou shall not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination". I see no reason why you should drag God to the thing that God is against. Going down further to verse 29 "For whosoever shall commit any of these abomination, even the souls that commit them shall be cut from among their people" if you support gays, you are like unto them. If you are gay in Nigeria and you are not looking for spiritual help, rather you are looking for who to pollute, you will burn. As for all these curses you posted here against me, it will go back to you in multiple folds in the mighty name of Jesus. it cannot stand because you cannot curse whom God has not cursed. Those that decided to like your comments shall share in your demonic curse in Jesus name. When twins were killed in Nigeria, have Nigerians seen the light then? was it not idolatry your fore fathers were practicing?? have the gospel of Jesus spread just as it is now? you see, now that we know the truth, it has set us free. Is it not insane for man to sleep with another man? and most of you are here spewing jargons

I don't believe what you wrote up there because I do not worship God.
I would equally not listen to a Muslim preach what Allah wants.
I can't listen to an Eckist tell me what Harold taught them.
I can't agree with a Buddhist about what Krishna wants.
I can't swallow any teachings of the Wiccan's sermon.
I will never agree with wood worshippers and diabolism.
I can't listen to anybody preach what Ogamisama taught them.
I will never listen to anybody that will preach what Aztecs say because...

I do not worship these Gods.
I do not worship your God.
I'm not fetish.

It's no use quoting any holy book to me because our ideas differ.
What anybody think of me is none of my business, how much more fictional characters from comic books.

I'm gayer than the rainbow. I'm better than the everyday Nigerian.

I'm not effeminate. Hell naw! But guess what, I have a better heart than your sisters.

Same way there exists 'straight' âsshôles, there are gay ássholés. Same way I don't think all 'straight' people are xtupid, all gay people are not xtupid.

I do not agree with what you say, but I will forever uphold your right to say it.

I am human. I should be treated like one.

BornSad:


Sorry, do you also consider it insane for guy to be effeminate (ie behave in a girly way)?

there are some guys that behave in a girly way and most people consider them as gays cuz its visible? the guys in question do believe they should have been born has girls because of the way they behave i.e wearing tight pants, applying lipsticks even their standing posture speaks volume. Some girls have physical attributes of men and they behave like men. You hardly notice their breast. The major point here is sexuality not behavior but If you are in Rome, behave like Romans.

GSKing:


I don't believe what you wrote up there because I do not worship God.
I would equally not listen to a Muslim preach what Allah wants.
I can't listen to an Eckist tell me what Harold taught them.
I can't agree with a Buddhist about what Krishna wants.
I can't swallow any teachings of the Wiccan's sermon.
I will never agree with wood worshippers and diabolism.
I can't listen to anybody preach what Ogamisama taught them.
I will never listen to anybody that will preach what Aztecs say because...

I do not worship these Gods.
I do not worship your God.
I'm not fetish.

It's no use quoting any holy book to me because our ideas differ.
What anybody think of me is none of my business, how much more fictional characters from comic books.

I'm gayer than the rainbow. I'm better than the everyday Nigerian.

I'm not effeminate. Hell naw! But guess what, I have a better heart than your sisters.

Same way there exists 'straight' âsshôles, there are gay ássholés. Same way I don't think all 'straight' people are xtupid, all gay people are not xtupid.

I do not agree with what you say, but I will forever uphold your right to say it.

I am human. I should be treated like one.

point of correction, there can be plenty gods, there can be only one God. Everyone is human and should be treated as one so far they behave humanely. Have you ever seen a male dog going after another male dog to sleep with it? if animals that are lesser beings with no soul will not do such, how much more humans that are considered as higher beings do such?

bennyrazz:


there are some guys that behave in a girly way and most people consider them as gays cuz its visible? the guys in question do believe they should have been born has girls because of the way they behave i.e wearing tight pants, applying lipsticks even their standing posture speaks volume. Some girls have physical attributes of men and they behave like men. You hardly notice their breast.

You apparently confuse gay people with transéxuals.

The major point here is sexuality not behavior but If you are in Rome, behave like Romans.

What century is this that you had to write that down?




I do not agree with what you say, but I will forever
uphold your right to say it.

bennyrazz:


point of correction, there can be plenty gods, there can be only one God. Everyone is human and should be treated as one so far they behave humanely. Have you ever seen a male dog going after another male dog to sleep with it? if animals that are lesser beings with no soul will not do such, how much more humans that are considered as higher beings do such?

I do not agree with what you say, but I will forever
uphold your right to say it.

bennyrazz:


there are some guys that behave in a girly way and most people consider them as gays cuz its visible? the guys in question do believe they should have been born has girls because of the way they behave i.e wearing tight pants, applying lipsticks even their standing posture speaks volume. Some girls have physical attributes of men and they behave like men. You hardly notice their breast. The major point here is sexuality not behavior but If you are in Rome, behave like Romans.

You think sexuality is all about sex? You think being gay is defined only by whom you have sex with? Do you agree with me that a girly guy has no control over his behaviour? Now, do you know that sexual orientation is a behavioural attribute? How could you expect a boy who has been girly from birth (an attribute associated with congenital homosexuality) to wake up one morning and decide to change his orientation? You think those girly gay guys you see feel anything for the female folks like you do? You are lucky to be straight and manly but bro, not everyone is.
Just appreciate your God and remain calm cause you didn't create yourself the way you are.

bennyrazz:
Gays/homosexuals are abominations before God as it is written in the Bible, in they book of Leviticus 18 vs 22, "thou shall not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination". I see no reason why you should drag God to the thing that God is against. Going down further to verse 29 "For whosoever shall commit any of these abomination, even the souls that commit them shall be cut from among their people" if you support gays, you are like unto them. If you are gay in Nigeria and you are not looking for spiritual help, rather you are looking for who to pollute, you will burn. As for all these curses you posted here against me, it will go back to you in multiple folds in the mighty name of Jesus. it cannot stand because you cannot curse whom God has not cursed. Those that decided to like your comments shall share in your demonic curse in Jesus name. When twins were killed in Nigeria, have Nigerians seen the light then? was it not idolatry your fore fathers were practicing?? have the gospel of Jesus spread just as it is now? you see, now that we know the truth, it has set us free. Is it not insane for man to sleep with another man? and most of you are here spewing jargons

Do you have to lie with a woman before you feel attracted to her?
It comes off instinctively doesn't it?
The same way you feel when you are attracted to the opposite sex is the same way gays are attracted to the same sex

back to the bible...

The same Leviticus forbids man from eating pork, pig meat because it is "unclean"... But why do we eat pig meat today?
There were reasons then why these laws where enforced because man had not been gotten to the stage where pork/pig meat can be cleanly processed.


Why didn't the bible say womankind should not sleep with womankind as though with mankind?

Are Lesbians special that they are allowed to sleep together and fall in love with each other?

God was against this because it was not safe health wise then. Even recent reports will tell you that it is easier to get HIV and AIDS through anal intercourse.

And back then It was common practise for people who worshipped Baal to engage in anal sex both MEN and WOMEN

This same concept was said in Romans 1: 26, 27 ,28

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural

Here Paul was not talking about Lesbians. But he was talking about other sexual practices. Anal sex,MouthAction e.t.c.

That is they didn't practise normal sexual acts with men.

And in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.


Here he was talking about "PROMISCUOUS" gays having ANAL intercourse with random partners.

And at the beginning of this verse its says ALL these people were not Believers or Jews. They disapproved the existence of God and that is why God gave them up to these unclean lifestyles

What would you say about children who developed gay/homosexual attractions with the same sex in a Christian home.

Where they born in a pagan family that God decided to curse them. So they are attracted to the same sex.


Why did Jesus never curse homosexuality. He even mention in Matthew 19:12

For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are also eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it."




Eunuch aren't only translated as people who cannot have children. they are also people who have no desire to get married to a woman.

GSKing:


It's no use quoting any holy book to me because our ideas differ.

@GSking The Bible never ever really disapproves of homosexuality.

The Bible never says if you are attracted to the same sex you are an abomination

Jesus even sited a place where men are born as eunuchs, eunuchs then could mean a man not attracted to women.

It is mostly homophobic Christians that use those negative parts in the bible to twist it to their favour.

bennyrazz:
thank you for reminding me jare GUN(pump action) will do. It would make him travel faster to hell


.our culture our religion is against gays. My judgements and that of those that believe gays are an abomination to the land will never be clouded by some collective few who are rather insensitive. If you are gay, you better seek for asylum to a country where the rights of gays are protected else if I and my people catch you, we will burn you to cleanse the land (jungle justice). There is no room for you/gays in Nigeria.

I have a problem with this.Not all Nigerians adhere to the same faith or beliefs.

Even if they did,it can't stand as the standard to judge human morality in our society.Religion is not the ethics or conduct book for everyday individuals.The country is governed by a constitution which should always be liberally set and not governed by laws of religion.

Scaredsilent:


Do you have to lie with a woman before you feel attracted to her?
It comes off instinctively doesn't it?
The same way you feel when you are attracted to the opposite sex is the same way gays are attracted to the same sex

back to the bible...

The same Leviticus forbids man from eating pork, pig meat because it is "unclean"... But why do we eat pig meat today?
There were reasons then why these laws where enforced because man had not been gotten to the stage where pork/pig meat can be cleanly processed.


Why didn't the bible say womankind should not sleep with womankind as though with mankind?

Are Lesbians special that they are allowed to sleep together and fall in love with each other?

God was against this because it was not safe health wise then. Even recent reports will tell you that it is easier to get HIV and AIDS through anal intercourse.

And back then It was common practise for people who worshipped Baal to engage in anal sex both MEN and WOMEN

This same concept was said in Romans 1: 26, 27 ,28

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural

Here Paul was not talking about Lesbians. But he was talking about other sexual practices. Anal sex,MouthAction e.t.c.

That is they didn't practise normal sexual acts with men.

And in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.


Here he was talking about "PROMISCUOUS" gays having ANAL intercourse with random partners.

And at the beginning of this verse its says ALL these people were not Believers or Jews. They disapproved the existence of God and that is why God gave them up to these unclean lifestyles

What would you say about children who developed gay/homosexual attractions with the same sex in a Christian home.

Where they born in a pagan family that God decided to curse them. So they are attracted to the same sex.


Why did Jesus never curse homosexuality. He even mention in Matthew 19:12

For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are also eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it."




Eunuch aren't only translated as people who cannot have children. they are also people who have no desire to get married to a woman.

The problem most Christian like you have is understanding the scripture. If you don't understand it, simply look for another version of the Bible with simpler English Lev 18:22

New International Version
"'Do not have sexual relations with a man
as one does with a woman; that is
detestable.

New Living Translation
"Do not practice homosexuality, having
sex with another man as with a woman. It
is a detestable sin.


International Standard Version
You are not to have sexual relations with
a male as you would with a woman. It's
detestable."
NET Bible
You must not have sexual intercourse
with a male as one has sexual intercourse
with a woman; it is a detestable act.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
Never have sexual intercourse with a man
as with a woman. It is disgusting.


Pertaining the issue of eunuch, first of all what does the word Eunuch mean? In plain terms, it means a castrated man. Now how does a castrated man relates to homosexual man? Because you are joining the two issues together. The sin of homosexuality is what some Christians call sodomy. This is why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Lastly, if you read the Bible and you don't understand, ask your Pastor to explain. Desist from turning the scriptures upside down.

What happened to the person in OP is simply wrong - neither do I agree with the criminalising homosexual behaviour.

Having said that your post is riddled with error and gay propaganda.

BornSad:
You think sexuality is all about sex? You think being gay is defined only by whom you have sex with? Do you agree with me that a girly guy has no control over his behaviour? Now, do you know that sexual orientation is a behavioural attribute?

Damn right it's a behaviour, but not genetically determined. It's a practice and a choice. Nobody is born gay.

BornSad:
How could you expect a boy who has been girly from birth (an attribute associated with congenital homosexuality) to wake up one morning and decide to change his orientation? You think those girly gay guys you see feel anything for the female folks like you do? You are lucky to be straight and manly but bro, not everyone is.

Babies are not sexual, so please stop spewing that falsehood. What babies are are functionally configured as male or female. Physically templated to be sexually compatible with the opposite sex after the maturation process.

They are not really sexual beings until puberty and they are not even heterosexual as such - there is really no need for the word hetersosexual as it only serves as a distinctive to the abnormality of homosexuality - they are "normal".

BornSad:
Just appreciate your God and remain calm cause you didn't create yourself the way you are.

What God creates is perfect - even if homosexuality were "natural" it would be a coding error, like any other disease. And it is usually as a result of interruption or impairment of the normal maturation process.

Decent advice has been offered. Funny no one addressed the almost incontinent sexual behaviour that characterises gay relationships as noted in baby124' post.


TV

Hang a second,did I just read you say If I and my people catch a gay person.

Why are most of you delusional?You obviously assume because gays are a voiceless minority in Nigeria,they are weak in all ramifications,Hell No nigga.

Its prolly due to the fact that you all assume gays are all effeminate.

Lemme break something down to you,since you people believe that in every gay relationship,you'll find a man,you'll find a woman.If the effeminate ones you say everyday are obviously the women in the relationship,who now dates them?The same effeminate dudes.

I may not be too sure,but the effeminate gays are like maybe 20 or 30% of the gay population.

You'all be thinking like Jonathan.

Scaredsilent:


@GSking The Bible never ever really disapproves of homosexuality.

The Bible never says if you are attracted to the same sex you are an abomination

Jesus even sited a place where men are born as eunuchs, eunuchs then could mean a man not attracted to women.

It is mostly homophobic Christians that use those negative parts in the bible to twist it to their favour.

When these Leviticus Christians come up with their 'stone to death passage',I just laugh cause the same Bible proscribes death to other things which you obviously count irrelevant today.

Isn't it funny that Jesus son of God,Holy Trinity lived in a gay-infested Roma-Jewish society but not once did a message on homosexuality surface.

At his incites of eunuchs born that way from birth,in some cultures during his time,eunuchs were always handsome men,who are known to be reserved for the Kings inner chambers(chambers of policy making or bed-making,that I don't know).

Then they have the Sodom and Gommorrah preachers,first we are reminded that Moses was the narrator of these events.

Still they read what Prophet Ezekiel said,that S&G were destroyed for unkindness,inhospitality and pride.

Also,they threw their eyes into boiling water when Jesus said,whoever turned away his disciples and didn't offer them hospitality would face the same judgemnt S&G faced for same attrocities.

But they remember St Paul's message,it doesn't take any insight to know St Paul's teachings are flawed with his own groanings and beliefs not necessarily from above.

There's also the Centurion's servant healing,isn't it rare to see a Roman Centurion go all out to heal a servant,why not hire another one.This is just a circumstance as to the prevalence same-sex relationships in the society then.

I know the Bible does not endorse Same-Sex relationships but it doesn't categorize it or have any admonition vehemently against.

Christians need to move on,some things you just can't change.Gosh,its 2015.

TV01:

What happened to the person in OP is simply wrong - neither do I agree with the criminalising homosexual behaviour.

Having said that your post is riddled with error and gay propaganda.


Damn right it's a behaviour, but not genetically determined. It's a practice and a choice. Nobody is born gay.


Babies are not sexual, so please stop spewing that falsehood. What babies are are functionally configured as male or female. Physically templated to be sexually compatible with the opposite sex after the maturation process.

They are not really sexual beings until puberty and they are not even heterosexual as such - there is really no need for the word hetersosexual as it only serves as a distinctive to the abnormality of homosexuality - they are "normal".


What God creates is perfect - even if homosexuality were "natural" it would be a coding error, like any other disease. And it is usually as a result of interruption or impairment of the normal maturation process.

Decent advice has been offered. Funny no one addressed the almost incontinent sexual behaviour that characterises gay relationships as noted in baby124' post.


TV

K

Scaredsilent:

back to the bible...

What about it?

Scaredsilent:
The same Leviticus forbids man from eating pork, pig meat because it is "unclean"... But why do we eat pig meat today? There were reasons then why these laws where enforced because man had not been gotten to the stage where pork/pig meat can be cleanly processed.

Apart from the obvious difference between moral laws and dietary laws, or holiness and health & safety , has sodomy advanced to the level of procreation? Or to obviate the myriad physical and psychological ills that are associated with it? Eating swine can be unhealthy, sodomy is unholy,

Scaredsilent:
Why didn't the bible say womankind should not sleep with womankind as though with mankind?

It did dude; from the same Romans you posted below;
Romans 1: 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
What is it that women were doing against nature, and with one another?

Scaredsilent:
Are Lesbians special that they are allowed to sleep together and fall in love with each other?

Nope, still unholy and unnatural!

Scaredsilent:
God was against this because it was not safe health wise then. Even recent reports will tell you that it is easier to get HIV and AIDS through anal intercourse. And back then It was common practise for people who worshipped Baal to engage in anal sex both MEN and WOMEN

So it's ok now because anal sex is safe !

Scaredsilent:

This same concept was said in Romans 1: 26, 27 ,28

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural

Here Paul was not talking about Lesbians. But he was talking about other sexual practices. Anal sex,MouthAction e.t.c.

That is they didn't practise normal sexual acts with men.

And in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.


Here he was talking about "PROMISCUOUS" gays having ANAL intercourse with random partners.

So promiscuous anal sex with random partners is wrong? Pray tell, what was the man in the OP doing !

Scaredsilent:

And at the beginning of this verse its says ALL these people were not Believers or Jews. They disapproved the existence of God and that is why God gave them up to these unclean lifestyles

What would you say about children who developed gay/homosexual attractions with the same sex in a Christian home.

Where they born in a pagan family that God decided to curse them. So they are attracted to the same sex.


Why did Jesus never curse homosexuality. He even mention in Matthew 19:12

For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are also eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it."




Eunuch aren't only translated as people who cannot have children. they are also people who have no desire to get married to a woman.

The fact that The Lord did not explicitly condemn homosexuality is neither here, nor there - there were lots of ills/sins He did not outright condemn. Slavery for example. What He did do, was point to the union between male and female as the biblically mandated one.

Whether a eunuch has no desire for women or no ability to be with them, that is in no way an endorsement of sodomy.

Your post is shot through with error, riddled through with inconsistencies and smacks of strained justification. Biblically, physical homosexual relationships are a sin. Reject the bible if you will, don't willfully butcher it to justify your desires. Danke!


TV

bennyrazz:


The problem most Christian like you have is understanding the scripture. If you don't understand it, simply look for another version of the Bible with simpler English Lev 18:22

New International Version
New Living Translation
International Standard Version
NET Bible
GOD'S WORD® Translation

All these bible versions you have mentioned are all NEW translations of the original text. If you truly want to under stand the bible like most Theologians do. You will read the original Hebrew text. Honestly, I am not saying this new versions have changed the original concept of the bible. But its an issue of mis-interpretation. The bible to be honest was not written my English scholars especially the Old Testaments. It has been passed down from the Jews. And you will agree that some languages just dont have a word for the another word

Look at Igbo language... The translation for "Sister" is "Female Child of Your Mother" that is "Nwa Nne Nwanyi"

"Female Child of Your Mother" is a complicated long sentence for a short word like Sister

Did you know The first known appearance of the word "homosexual" in print is found in an 1869 ?
That was when the word homosexual was first coined
So what did the bible use before then??

Another Good Example is 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Paul was talking about the unrighteous who would not inherit the kingdom of God

The Old King James
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind

The revised Standard edition
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts,

The oldest version of the bible in Greek was called

malakoi and arsenokoites

malakoi - Meant Soft
arsenokoites - meant Male Prostitutes

He was referring the men who sell them selves out to other men for sex

But the actual English definition of the word homosexual just means attraction to d same sex

So would you still say I am turning the bible upside down when the bible has had soooo many translations from the beginning of time.

Pertaining the issue of eunuch, first of all what does the word Eunuch mean? In plain terms, it means a castrated man. Now how does a castrated man relates to homosexual man? Because you are joining the two issues together. The sin of homosexuality is what some Christians call sodomy. This is why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Lastly, if you read the Bible and you don't understand, ask your Pastor to explain. Desist from turning the scriptures upside down.

As for Eunuch. Its the same thing.

Enuch also means someone who abstains from marriage (sexual relations) to be solely devoted to God – as in Mt 19:12 where 2135 (eunoúxos) refers to someone who voluntarily chooses a life of sexual abstinence from women.


I am not joining two issues together . They are the same. Not everyone is meant to be married to a woman and have children.

Wait, is there really someone on here that said he will murder any gay person he sees? To cleanse the land? And then goes about quoting bible verses?

God please deliver us from these kinds of 'humans'.

CyrusXandria:
When these Leviticus Christians come up with their 'stone to death passage',I just laugh cause the same Bible proscribes death to other things which you obviously count irrelevant today.

Isn't it funny that Jesus son of God,Holy Trinity lived in a gay-infested Roma-Jewish society but not once did a message on homosexuality surface.

At his incites of eunuchs born that way from birth,in some cultures during his time,eunuchs were always handsome men,who are known to be reserved for the Kings inner chambers(chambers of policy making or bed-making,that I don't know).

Then they have the Sodom and Gommorrah preachers,first we are reminded that Moses was the narrator of these events.

Still they read what Prophet Ezekiel said,that S&G were destroyed for unkindness,inhospitality and pride.

Also,they threw their eyes into boiling water when Jesus said,whoever turned away his disciples and didn't offer them hospitality would face the same judgemnt S&G faced for same attrocities.

But they remember St Paul's message,it doesn't take any insight to know St Paul's teachings are flawed with his own groanings and beliefs not necessarily from above.

There's also the Centurion's servant healing,isn't it rare to see a Roman Centurion go all out to heal a servant,why not hire another one.This is just a circumstance as to the prevalence same-sex relationships in the society then.

I know the Bible does not endorse Same-Sex relationships but it doesn't categorize it or have any admonition vehemently against.

Christians need to move on,some things you just can't change.Gosh,its 2015.

Unfortunately, It would not change or move on if we speak once and keep quiet. We need to constantly talk and express who we are as people . Even the relationship between Jonathan and David was some time sited as a homosexual relationship.

Its obvious that new translations of the bible have been seen as homophobic by some church denominations.

We need to keep on talking so the next generation of gay children have something to stand on

ileobatojo:
Wait, is there really someone on here that said he will murder any gay person he sees? To cleanse the land? And then goes about quoting bible verses?

God please deliver us from these kinds of 'humans'.

my fellow Christains make me sad sometimes.

Sad thing is if you're not preaching death and humiliation for homosexuals , then you're automatically seen as promoting gay agenda(whatever that means)

I just leave well enough alone to avoid the useless back and forths

cococandy:
my fellow Christains make me sad sometimes.

Christian? Na yam? These kind that only use the bible to oppress/judge others and justify their psychotic inclinations? No way he's a fellow Christian.

cococandy:

Sad thing is if you're not preaching death and humiliation for homosexuals , then you're automatically seen as promoting gay agenda(whatever that means)
I just leave well enough alone to avoid the useless back and forths

Good idea. Not worth it going back and forth with people that simply refuse to have sense.

Scaredsilent:


Unfortunately, It would not change or move on if we speak once and keep quiet. We need to constantly talk and express who we are as people . Even the relationship between Jonathan and David was some time sited as a homosexual relationship.

Its obvious that new translations of the bible have been seen as homophobic by some church denominations.

We need to keep on talking so the next generation of gay children have something to stand on

I agree with you.

TV01:

What about it?


Apart from the obvious difference between moral laws and dietary laws, or holiness and health & safety , has sodomy advanced to the level of procreation? Or to obviate the myriad physical and psychological ills that are associated with it? Eating swine can be unhealthy, sodomy is unholy,

So your saying Married couples have sex only because they want to have children? Then at least every year in the lives of a couple after marriage they will be conceiving children... Sex is more complicated than that. Paul advise Men to get married if they know they cant control their lustful desires.

Also When a Man and woman have sex together they solve all the world's problem?? I dont get what you are saying... Serial Killers, Corrupt politicians, Armed Robbers all came from the womb of some woman after having your so called natural sex. And they arent adding any value to life...

And Please stop using that word "Sodomy" in reference to Homosexuality. because it was not the reason why they were destroyed. if you care to read your bible well you would see another reference to why God destroyed sodom and gomorah.
Ezekiel 16:49-50 declares, "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

Romans 1: 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
What is it that women were doing against nature, and with one another?

So it's ok now because anal sex is safe !

There are many ways to make love to your wife which does not have to do with penetrative sex. Some people decide different ways to have sex. Sex is an affirmation of love. And nothing more. To please your partner mind and body.

So promiscuous anal sex with random partners is wrong? Pray tell, what was the man in the OP doing !

It is wrong. I will not argue that. But I want you to imagine for a second or a minute if you can. If heterosexuality was frowned at by the public, your church and community. Are you telling me you will be able to live your life sexless till you die....

just think about that. wouldnt you try to find a way to get relief from the pressure.

I dont know how old the op is. but when i was 15 and fully in puberty my emotions used to rage a lot. I could have done stupid things if I wasnt in a strict christian home.

What that boy needed was acceptance of his sexuality, by his family and community and HOMOPHOBIC nigeria as a whole.

If he had that he wouldnt start going under ground looking for love when he can find his true love in the open, trust and assurance.

The fact that The Lord did not explicitly condemn homosexuality is neither here, nor there - there were lots of ills/sins He did not outright condemn. Slavery for example. What He did do, was point to the union between male and female as the biblically mandated one.

Whether a eunuch has no desire for women or no ability to be with them, that is in no way an endorsement of sodomy.

Your post is shot through with error, riddled through with inconsistencies and smacks of strained justification. Biblically, physical homosexual relationships are a sin. Reject the bible if you will, don't willfully butcher it to justify your desires. Danke!

Because Slavery is not a sin. Aren't we all Cooperate slaves to the business world. wherever you work or have a job. It was abusive slavery that was not condoned in the bible. Not paying their dues. Not giving them the write benefits. It doesnt not have to be raising a cane and directly flogging your slave.

As for Eunuch. History and write ups has generalize Homosexuals under them because homosexuals have no desire for opposite sex marriage. Do your research and see.


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