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ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by hothuntee(m): 5:18pm On Mar 07, 2015
Lets face it guys, who so ever manufactured that smartphone you own right away has employed one of these brands if it is a high end smartphone. The processor ( coupled with the graphic chipset ) is the base support for almost every function and ancillaries availed by a smartpnone. ARM, Exynos, qualcom or intel. which of them is killing it right now?

Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by ITbomb(m): 6:25pm On Mar 07, 2015
Wey mediatek?
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by TechtraGadgets: 7:57pm On Mar 07, 2015
hothuntee:
Lets face it guys, who so ever manufactured that smartphone you own right away has employed one of these brands if it is a high end smartphone. The processor ( coupled with the graphic chipset ) is the base support for almost every function and ancillaries availed by a smartpnone. ARM, Exynos, qualcom or intel. which of them is killing it right now?

1. EXYNOS
2. MEDIATEK
3. QUALCOM
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 8:33pm On Mar 07, 2015
@OP, remove ARM from that list. It is an abomination. ARM hold the patents to the inventions and Innovation for mobile processors on almost all the mobile devices.

Intel even bows to The Might of ARM Holdings.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by leuelliot(m): 8:36pm On Mar 07, 2015
leuelliot is killing it right now wink
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by martineverest(m): 8:50pm On Mar 07, 2015
In computing architecture they re two types of processor:
1) RISC( ARM based eg qualcom,exynos,nvidia,apple A-series and mediatek)...they are basically used for mobile device,they consume low power and they dow allow keyboard and mouse etc...dats y android and ios devices dont come with keyboard and mouse and battery last longer.......operating system like windows phone,rim,android and ios uses this architecture
2)CISC(intel x-86....predominately intel and AMD processors)they re used in computers,consume power.examples are mac os,windows and linus.
ARM based cpu are in charge of mobile devices while intel is in charge of computer

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Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by martineverest(m): 8:51pm On Mar 07, 2015
Arm is in charge of mobile devices while intel owns computer.
Randerl:
@OP, remove ARM from that list. It is an abomination. ARM hold the patents to the inventions and Innovation for mobile processors on almost all the mobile devices.

Intel even bows to The Might of ARM Holdings.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by TechtraGadgets: 8:56pm On Mar 07, 2015
martineverest:
In computing architecture they re two types of processor:
1) RISC( ARM based eg qualcom,exynos,nvidia,apple A-series and mediatek)...they are basically used for mobile device,they consume low power and they dow allow keyboard and mouse etc...dats y android and ios devices dont come with keyboard and mouse and battery last longer.......operating system like windows phone,rim,android and ios uses this architecture
2)CISC(intel x-86....predominately intel and AMD processors)they re used in computers,consume power.examples are mac os,windows and linus.
ARM based cpu are in charge of mobile devices while intel is in charge of computer

Intel has been making some low power mobile processor for more than a year now, as used in ASUS zenfone series

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Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 9:07pm On Mar 07, 2015
martineverest:
Arm is in charge of mobile devices while intel owns computer.


ARM Holdings Liscenses patents and processor designs to the likes of Qualcomm, MediaTek etc.

Intel has been trying to break into the Smartphones space for long but meet with failure everytime. Sometime ago, Intel went as far getting ARM processor design just to break into that mobile platform.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by hothuntee(m): 10:03pm On Mar 07, 2015
Randerl:
@OP, remove ARM from that list. It is an abomination. ARM hold the patents to the inventions and Innovation for mobile processors on almost all the mobile devices.

Intel even bows to The Might of ARM Holdings.
ARM and intel are different companies. while your claim on patents might be true, ARM is responsible for for the cortex chip and intel is responsible for the atom chip in the mobile world.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by hothuntee(m): 10:08pm On Mar 07, 2015
TechtraGadgets:


1. EXYNOS
2. MEDIATEK
3. QUALCOM
can you please name an high end smartphone running on mediatek
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by hothuntee(m): 10:21pm On Mar 07, 2015
martineverest:
In computing architecture they re two types of processor:
1) RISC( ARM based eg qualcom,exynos,nvidia,apple A-series and mediatek)...they are basically used for mobile device,they consume low power and they dow allow keyboard and mouse etc...dats y android and ios devices dont come with keyboard and mouse and battery last longer.......operating system like windows phone,rim,android and ios uses this architecture
2)CISC(intel x-86....predominately intel and AMD processors)they re used in computers,consume power.examples are mac os,windows and linus.
ARM based cpu are in charge of mobile devices while intel is in charge of computer
ARM was the sole player aforetime in the mobile world and own the architecture on which embedded processors are based. Now, many players are around thanks to the wake to mobile technology

old symbian phones run on arm....nokia 5230 has a 434mhz arm cortex and 128mb ram

cisc based processors are intel and motorola amd as u said.........but it evolved from x-16 tox-86 and then x-64
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by TechtraGadgets: 1:00am On Mar 08, 2015
hothuntee:

can you please name an high end smartphone running on mediatek

The HTC m9 is to run on MediaTek, maybe some

Meizu mx4
Xiaomi mi4

The mtk6795 dwarfs the Snapdragon 810 and its bettered only by Samsung 's new Exynos chipset

The mtk6752 beat the Snapdragon 615 in the mid-range smartphones.

According to Gsmarena, Samsung has ordered for MediaTek chipsets also but it's not yet clear what for.

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Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by martineverest(m): 9:03am On Mar 08, 2015
Intel is about to break into mobile market.it just launched x3,x5 and x7(equivalent to i3,i5 and i7 in laptops) earlier this week.its rumoured to power windows 10 for phones with full desktop performances.....there re still doubt about battery consumption
Randerl:



ARM Holdings Liscenses patents and processor designs to the likes of Qualcomm, MediaTek etc.

Intel has been trying to break into the Smartphones space for long but meet with failure everytime. Sometime ago, Intel went as far getting ARM processor design just to break into that mobile platform.

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Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 9:12am On Mar 08, 2015
martineverest:
Intel is about to break into mobile market.it just launched x3,x5 and x7(equivalent to i3,i5 and i7 in laptops) earlier this week.its rumoured to power windows 10 for phones with full desktop performances.....there re still doubt about battery consumption


The ways you see the market Performance of different Operating Systems, so are you going to see the Intel Chips against those of Qualcomm, MediaTek and others. The Smart Devices platform is getting too hard to crack by Intel. No pun intended.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 9:27am On Mar 08, 2015
When you’re choosing a smartphone or tablet, you’ll notice that some models use Intel Atom processors, while others are based on the competing ARM architecture.

This latter camp includes the Samsung Exynos, Qualcomm Snapdragon, Nvidia Tegra and Apple A7 platforms.Both families of chips are designed for low-power operation, to give mobile devices the long battery life they need.


Technically, however, they represent different philosophies: the ARM architecture is designed to be as simple aspossible, to keep energy wastage to a minimum, whereas Intel’s Atom range uses a more complex design that benefits from compatibility with the company’s (much more power-hungry) desktop and laptop CPUs.

It's also worth noting that ARM has been powering portable devices for decades, while Intel is a relative newcomer to this area. For now, ARM is very much the dominant architecture: iPads and iPhones use ARM exclusively, as do Windows Phone devices, so if you’re interested in these platforms, the distinction between ARM and Intel isn’t currently something you need to worry about.


hothuntee:

ARM and intel are different companies. while your claim on patents might be true, ARM is responsible for for the cortex chip and intel is responsible for the atom chip in the mobile world.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 9:36am On Mar 08, 2015
TechtraGadgets:


Intel has been making some low power mobile processor for more than a year now, as used in ASUS zenfone series

Intel has barely made a dent in the mobile market, while ARM has been wildly successful.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 10:38am On Mar 08, 2015
I strongly believe for compatibility, ARM is the current leader in terms of mobile processors. ARM’s partners have shipped 50 billion chips based on its designs, all for mobile and embedded markets.

For Android, ARM is the de-facto standard and this leads to a problem for Intel and MIPS. Although Android uses Java as its principal programming language, it also allows programmers to take their existing code (in C or C++, for example) and create apps. These “native” apps are generally compiled for ARM processors and not always for Intel or MIPS. To get around this Intel need to use special translation software which converts the ARM instructions into code for their processors.

This of course impacts performance. At the moment Intel can claim about a 90% compatibilitywith all the apps available in the Play Store. That figure is probably closer to 100% when dealing with the top 150 apps. On the one-hand that is a good coverage, but on the other hand it shows ARM’s dominance in that the other processor designers need to offer a completely new or different compatibility layer for the Operating System.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by martineverest(m): 12:50pm On Mar 08, 2015
Ok.....dont forget dat intel powered tablets re cheaper dan qualcom tablet;dont forget dat android tablets and ipad sales re falling due to lack of innovation in hardware and unproductiveness,thus resulting to pple switching back to computer;dont forget dat intel powered microsoft surface pro 3 tablet(d best and most productive tablet and most innovative tech. in d world) is sweeping ipad out in us and europe,with pple waiting for the next version( surface pro 4)òdont forget dat d success of surface pro 3 has made ppl to request microsoft to produce 'surface phone'(a fone with full desktop operation),this lead intel to launch smartphone processors(x3,x5 and x7);dontforget the world is leaving smartphone for immersive technology(virtual reality and augmented reality),with microsoft hololens(intel powered) taking d lead;dont forget dat wearables and internet of things(iot) are the next technology re mostly intel powered and finally, dont forget dat the android dominance ll be reduced by end of this year as microsoft is about to launch windows 10(unified operating system) and launch of microsoft hardware(surface phones,surface tablet,surface hub,microsoft band,hololens,room alive,xbox,xbox vr etc ........wintel partnership is unbreakable
Randerl:



The ways you see the market Performance of different Operating Systems, so are you going to see the Intel Chips against those of Qualcomm, MediaTek and others. The Smart Devices platform is getting too hard to crack by Intel. No pun intended.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by hothuntee(m): 12:51pm On Mar 08, 2015
Randerl:


Intel has barely made a dent in the mobile market, while ARM has been wildly successful.

a review on flagship phones at the release of s galaxy s4 found out that the motorola flagship phone performed better in fact, was the fastest. that moto droid has a dual core intel atom while s4 boasts octacore all cores ARM cortex. why should a dual core breath near an octacore talkless of submerging it?
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 2:12pm On Mar 08, 2015
martineverest:
Ok.....dont forget dat intel powered tablets re cheaper dan qualcom tablet;dont forget dat android tablets and ipad sales re falling due to lack of innovation in hardware and unproductiveness,thus resulting to pple switching back to computer;dont forget dat intel powered microsoft surface pro 3 tablet(d best and most productive tablet and most innovative tech. in d world) is sweeping ipad out in us and europe,with pple waiting for the next version( surface pro 4)òdont forget dat d success of surface pro 3 has made ppl to request microsoft to produce 'surface phone'(a fone with full desktop operation),this lead intel to launch smartphone processors(x3,x5 and x7);dontforget the world is leaving smartphone for immersive technology(virtual reality and augmented reality),with microsoft hololens(intel powered) taking d lead;dont forget dat wearables and internet of things(iot) are the next technology re mostly intel powered and finally, dont forget dat the android dominance ll be reduced by end of this year as microsoft is about to launch windows 10(unified operating system) and launch of microsoft hardware(surface phones,surface tablet,surface hub,microsoft band,hololens,room alive,xbox,xbox vr etc ........wintel partnership is unbreakable


Have you ever heard of Market Maturity or Over Saturation?

The Android Tablet Market is Over Saturated. And With 5.5, 5.7 and 6 inch phablets becoming main stream devices, you can expect the market for tabs to slow down.

Then, for the windows tabs, the game is in the number. If is not selling like Android and iDevices, then it is all wash.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 2:16pm On Mar 08, 2015
hothuntee:


a review on flagship phones at the release of s galaxy s4 found out that the motorola flagship phone performed better in fact, was the fastest. that moto droid has a dual core intel atom while s4 boasts octacore all cores ARM cortex. why should a dual core breath near an octacore talkless of submerging it?

I bet you are fully aware of the sales figures for both devices. The game is in their numbers and global appeal.

Drain on batteries is a key issue for smartphones and tablets. Historically, Intel has come up with powerful processors but paid little attention to battery life. By contrast, ARM from the very beginning has delivered designs where chips consume very little power. This has played a part in creating the drag Intel’s efforts to compete,

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Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by martineverest(m): 2:50pm On Mar 08, 2015
Yeah,av heard of dat......windows tablets re growing at the xpense of ipads and android....oem re just waiting for windows 10 to jump into windows bandwagon.dont also forget dat the introduction of laplet (tablet with laptop specs) by microsoft is forcing appleto launch ipad pro(a tablet dat ll b powered intel broadwell processor and mac os) soa as to reduce fal[ of ipads......dont also forget dat the launch of intel next generation processor (skylake) will be intel's most innovative and greatest cpu.....the world is waiting for windows 10 with intel skylake processor in summer 2015quote author=Randerl post=31421460]


Have you ever heard of Market Maturity or Over Saturation?

The Android Tablet Market is Over Saturated. And With 5.5, 5.7 and 6 inch phablets becoming main stream devices, you can expect the market for tabs to slow down.

Then, for the windows tabs, the game is in the number. If is not selling like Android and iDevices, then it is all wash. [/quote]
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by martineverest(m): 2:56pm On Mar 08, 2015
Cherry trail and x series re intel answer to arm processor
Randerl:


I bet you are fully aware of the sales figures for both devices. The game is in their numbers and global appeal.

Drain on batteries is a key issue for smartphones and tablets. Historically, Intel has come up with powerful processors but paid little attention to battery life. By contrast, ARM from the very beginning has delivered designs where chips consume very little power. This has played a part in creating the drag Intel’s efforts to compete,
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 3:17pm On Mar 08, 2015
martineverest:
Cherry trail and x series re intel answer to arm processor

ARM has a very efficient architecture offering that is the de facto standard in mobile, and it is enticing in the datacenter as well for the same reasons, it's too late for Intel to achieve the dominance they enjoy in PC market.

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Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 3:22pm On Mar 08, 2015
martineverest:
Yeah,av heard of dat......windows tablets re growing at the xpense of ipads and android....oem re just waiting for windows 10 to jump into windows bandwagon.dont also forget dat the introduction of laplet (tablet with laptop specs) by microsoft is forcing appleto launch ipad pro(a tablet dat ll b powered intel broadwell processor and mac os) soa as to reduce fal[ of ipads......dont also forget dat the launch of intel next generation processor (skylake) will be intel's most innovative and greatest cpu.....the world is waiting for windows 10 with intel skylake processor in summer 2015


Intel will win some share in handsets, and more in Windows tablets, but this will be limited, however, by competition from ARM’s many partners. Also, remember that ARM based devices are gaining 2% to 3% share in markets outside mobile every year.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by martineverest(m): 3:58pm On Mar 08, 2015
Randerl:

and y do u think microsoft ditched windows rt(arm powered tablets os like lumia 2520 and surface pro 2) and its replacement with full windows ?its actually because of wintel relationship and also for d reason dat intel powered windows tablets were outselling arm windows,atom processor were becoming powerful and effient(close to arm processor efficiency); and a major drive for reducing arm dominance in mobile.with new intel cherry trail(atom successor) processor,more efficiency is achieved.moreover,x series processor are rumour to be even more efficent.besides,intel just announces dat 25 major fone oems are ready to use it.intel is waiting foe windows 10 to unvail it fully
ARM has a very efficient architecture offering that is the de facto standard in mobile, and it is enticing in the datacenter as well for the same reasons, it's too late for Intel to achieve the dominance they enjoy in PC market.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 4:09pm On Mar 08, 2015
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Like l posted earlier, Intel has historically had many false dawns in mobile. They have had some design wins in low-volume handsets, but these haven’t sold in any material quantities.

I think Intel is more likely to have success in tablets, where power/performance constraints are less onerous than in handsets, owing to the proportionately larger battery.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by martineverest(m): 4:14pm On Mar 08, 2015
Just as analyst says dat windows 10 ll reduce android percentage in smartphones,intel is backing on dis to reduce qualcom dominance in mobile.....its going to be a war btween quadroid and wintel
Randerl:



Intel will win some share in handsets, and more in Windows tablets, but this will be limited, however, by competition from ARM’s many partners. Also, remember that ARM based devices are gaining 2% to 3% share in markets outside mobile every year.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by martineverest(m): 4:19pm On Mar 08, 2015
D fact remains intel neva had presencein smartfones xcept asus zenfone...to tacle dis,intel announced it new processor last week called xseries(stricly for fones)
Randerl:




Like l posted earlier, Intel has historically had many false dawns in mobile. They have had some design wins in low-volume handsets, but these haven’t sold in any material quantities.

I think Intel is more likely to have success in tablets, where power/performance constraints are less onerous than in handsets, owing to the proportionately larger battery.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by Randerl: 4:21pm On Mar 08, 2015
martineverest:
Just as analyst says dat windows 10 ll reduce android percentage in smartphones,intel is backing on dis to reduce qualcom dominance in mobile.....its going to be a war btween quadroid and wintel

Banking on the Microsoft and Nokia Deal, these same analysts told us that WinPhone will capture more than 30% market share in 2011.
Where is Windows Phone today? Less than 3%. And Android is over 80% worldwide.
Re: ARM Vs Exynos Vs Qualcom Vs Intel, Who Does It Better? by martineverest(m): 4:37pm On Mar 08, 2015
Apps is what is hindering winphones from progressing and lack of major oems in windows phone production is also part of it.....to solve dis,microsoft started developing windows 10(an os dat ll allow unified all windows os),since computers and phones ll have same os kernel,dis ll lure developers to develope apps dat ll b used across all windows devices(unlike fones and pc with diffrnt os and app stores).with 1.5 billion pc,developers ll be encouraged to move their apps to unified windows stores.....more also,microsoft have settled rift with samsung(who want to reduce depency on android) and other major players in phone making windows phones....dont also forget dat most android oem are not happy with google animousity and strictness towards its oem and poor return in profit made from smartphones(apple make almost 85% of smartphone profits)
Randerl:


Banking on the Microsoft and Nokia Deal, these same analysts told us that WinPhone will capture more than 30% market share in 2011.
Where is Windows Phone today? Less than 3%. And Android is over 80% worldwide.

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